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5. Communion wafers - ritualistic cannibalism -------------------- Not sure where you're getting the ritualistic cannibalism, Christians i know don't do that and as far as i know Catholics don't either. eating of the flesh is cannibalism and drinking of the blood is vampirism ...it's just no way around this Yes very true, no argument there. But what does that have to do with anything? The only form of any kind of referance to drinking of blood would be taking what Jesus said literal when he was talking to his appostles Matthew 26:26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body Matthew 26:27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. As you can see, it's not literally meaning they drank any blood. Funches your comment was kind of in left field. Of course cannabolism would be against the teachings of christ, heck bottom line is murdering is against the law. |
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2. "Thou shalt have no other gods before me". Catholics pray to Mary, St. Jude, etc. --------------------- Again, referencing Catholics, Christians don't do as such. Christians pray to God through Jesus, because Jesus is the pathway, the way, the light, and the son of God. Nobody gets to God but through Jesus Christ. to say that one needs to pray to Jesus to get to God only suggest that God is not omnipresent and therefore not a God .....this is why praying to Jesus is placing him before God thus breaking the 1st commandment ... That's not saying that at all. Jesus said it himself, "The father and I are one". Therefor if you do not believe in Jesus you couldn't possibly believe in God. people prayed to God long before Jesus showed up ....which is why you dont need Jesus to get to God ....try it....say "hey God" and God will hear you Yes because they sacrificed animals to be forgiven for there sins. So therefore again making them sinless. |
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3. Crosses, statues, altars, etc. Idolotry, plain and simple... ------------------- We don't worship the crosses, the crosses are in memory of Jesus Christ. And no statues, God specifically tells us not to make any graven image. the cross is a graven image, especially the crosses that have Jesus nailed to them ...the cross is a method of execution that was use to cause the death of many people besides Jesus but yet it is used as a symbol that represent Jesus ....even Paul used it as a means to his death....this is why the cross has graven image status and why the cross breaks the 2nd commandment .... Nottice the words there funches "Graven image". That would include statues, eg., GRAVEN. And we don't "worship" the cross. The cross is only for memorance of what Jesus did for us all. |
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Cowboy, all of those examples are about Catholicism. Abra made the claim: "So Catholicism is really the only true form of Christianity left". Catholicism is the only true form of Christianity, the rest of the sects believe that all they have to do is accept Jesus as their lord and savior and to hell with everything else, including to disregard the bible and the teachings of Jesus and choosing to commit sin and heathenous at every given opportunity .. the Catholic church should make it clear that to be a true christian means to be a catholic see what we have here is the failure to excommunicate Not true funches. Yes Jesus forgives us, but to recieve that forgiveness we need to repent for that sin. Repent = stop doing it. Sins can not be committed intentionally knowing it's a sin, because then the asking for forgiveness would be in vein. |
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5. Communion wafers - ritualistic cannibalism -------------------- Not sure where you're getting the ritualistic cannibalism, Christians i know don't do that and as far as i know Catholics don't either. eating of the flesh is cannibalism and drinking of the blood is vampirism ...it's just no way around this Yes very true, no argument there. But what does that have to do with anything? The only form of any kind of referance to drinking of blood would be taking what Jesus said literal when he was talking to his appostles Matthew 26:26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body Matthew 26:27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. As you can see, it's not literally meaning they drank any blood. Funches your comment was kind of in left field. Of course cannabolism would be against the teachings of christ, heck bottom line is murdering is against the law. if the bible is truth then everything written in it must be taken literally... if Jesus can turn water into wine then he can turn wine into blood and bread into flesh ...either way ...performing such rituals is practicing cannibalism and vampirism |
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5. Communion wafers - ritualistic cannibalism -------------------- Not sure where you're getting the ritualistic cannibalism, Christians i know don't do that and as far as i know Catholics don't either. eating of the flesh is cannibalism and drinking of the blood is vampirism ...it's just no way around this Yes very true, no argument there. But what does that have to do with anything? The only form of any kind of referance to drinking of blood would be taking what Jesus said literal when he was talking to his appostles Matthew 26:26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body Matthew 26:27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. As you can see, it's not literally meaning they drank any blood. Funches your comment was kind of in left field. Of course cannabolism would be against the teachings of christ, heck bottom line is murdering is against the law. if the bible is truth then everything written in it must be taken literally... if Jesus can turn water into wine then he can turn wine into blood and bread into flesh ...either way ...performing such rituals is practicing cannibalism and vampirism Jesus spoke in parables and you know this Funches. And why must everything be taken literal when Jesus speaks in parables all the way through the bible. |
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5. Communion wafers - ritualistic cannibalism -------------------- Not sure where you're getting the ritualistic cannibalism, Christians i know don't do that and as far as i know Catholics don't either. eating of the flesh is cannibalism and drinking of the blood is vampirism ...it's just no way around this Yes very true, no argument there. But what does that have to do with anything? The only form of any kind of referance to drinking of blood would be taking what Jesus said literal when he was talking to his appostles Matthew 26:26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body Matthew 26:27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. As you can see, it's not literally meaning they drank any blood. Funches your comment was kind of in left field. Of course cannabolism would be against the teachings of christ, heck bottom line is murdering is against the law. if the bible is truth then everything written in it must be taken literally... if Jesus can turn water into wine then he can turn wine into blood and bread into flesh ...either way ...performing such rituals is practicing cannibalism and vampirism And even if it was taken literal on this one, it would mean the same thing. Cause how could he literally mean that the wine was his blood when he poured it right out of the bottle? And how could the bread literally be his body when he specifically cut it off the loaf? |
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2. "Thou shalt have no other gods before me". Catholics pray to Mary, St. Jude, etc. --------------------- Again, referencing Catholics, Christians don't do as such. Christians pray to God through Jesus, because Jesus is the pathway, the way, the light, and the son of God. Nobody gets to God but through Jesus Christ. to say that one needs to pray to Jesus to get to God only suggest that God is not omnipresent and therefore not a God .....this is why praying to Jesus is placing him before God thus breaking the 1st commandment ... That's not saying that at all. Jesus said it himself, "The father and I are one". Therefor if you do not believe in Jesus you couldn't possibly believe in God. people prayed to God long before Jesus showed up ....which is why you dont need Jesus to get to God ....try it....say "hey God" and God will hear you Yes because they sacrificed animals to be forgiven for there sins. So therefore again making them sinless. which is why no one need Jesus to get to God ...your remark that states that "nobody gets to God except through Jesus Christ" is you placing Jesus before God |
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2. "Thou shalt have no other gods before me". Catholics pray to Mary, St. Jude, etc. --------------------- Again, referencing Catholics, Christians don't do as such. Christians pray to God through Jesus, because Jesus is the pathway, the way, the light, and the son of God. Nobody gets to God but through Jesus Christ. to say that one needs to pray to Jesus to get to God only suggest that God is not omnipresent and therefore not a God .....this is why praying to Jesus is placing him before God thus breaking the 1st commandment ... That's not saying that at all. Jesus said it himself, "The father and I are one". Therefor if you do not believe in Jesus you couldn't possibly believe in God. people prayed to God long before Jesus showed up ....which is why you dont need Jesus to get to God ....try it....say "hey God" and God will hear you Yes because they sacrificed animals to be forgiven for there sins. So therefore again making them sinless. which is why no one need Jesus to get to God ...your remark that states that "nobody gets to God except through Jesus Christ" is you placing Jesus before God Because accepting Jesus as lord and savior would then be accepting Jesus being sacrificed for you. If you do not believe this, then i'd say get to sacrificing some nice cows. |
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3. Crosses, statues, altars, etc. Idolotry, plain and simple... ------------------- We don't worship the crosses, the crosses are in memory of Jesus Christ. And no statues, God specifically tells us not to make any graven image. the cross is a graven image, especially the crosses that have Jesus nailed to them ...the cross is a method of execution that was use to cause the death of many people besides Jesus but yet it is used as a symbol that represent Jesus ....even Paul used it as a means to his death....this is why the cross has graven image status and why the cross breaks the 2nd commandment .... Nottice the words there funches "Graven image". That would include statues, eg., GRAVEN. And we don't "worship" the cross. The cross is only for memorance of what Jesus did for us all. crossed are placed on graves....which is why the cross is a graven image |
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3. Crosses, statues, altars, etc. Idolotry, plain and simple... ------------------- We don't worship the crosses, the crosses are in memory of Jesus Christ. And no statues, God specifically tells us not to make any graven image. the cross is a graven image, especially the crosses that have Jesus nailed to them ...the cross is a method of execution that was use to cause the death of many people besides Jesus but yet it is used as a symbol that represent Jesus ....even Paul used it as a means to his death....this is why the cross has graven image status and why the cross breaks the 2nd commandment .... Nottice the words there funches "Graven image". That would include statues, eg., GRAVEN. And we don't "worship" the cross. The cross is only for memorance of what Jesus did for us all. crossed are placed on graves....which is why the cross is a graven image lol ok you just believe that. But still regardless of that, we do not "WORSHIP" the cross. We worship God. |
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Cowboy, all of those examples are about Catholicism. Abra made the claim: "So Catholicism is really the only true form of Christianity left". Catholicism is the only true form of Christianity, the rest of the sects believe that all they have to do is accept Jesus as their lord and savior and to hell with everything else, including to disregard the bible and the teachings of Jesus and choosing to commit sin and heathenous at every given opportunity .. the Catholic church should make it clear that to be a true christian means to be a catholic see what we have here is the failure to excommunicate Not true funches. Yes Jesus forgives us, but to recieve that forgiveness we need to repent for that sin. Repent = stop doing it. Sins can not be committed intentionally knowing it's a sin, because then the asking for forgiveness would be in vein. again you saying that "Jesus forgives" is you once again placing Jesus before God and breaking the 1st commandment ......if God ask you why you didn't ask him for forgiveness ...what are you going to say ......that it was no need to because you asked Jesus |
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CowboyGH
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Cowboy, all of those examples are about Catholicism. Abra made the claim: "So Catholicism is really the only true form of Christianity left". Catholicism is the only true form of Christianity, the rest of the sects believe that all they have to do is accept Jesus as their lord and savior and to hell with everything else, including to disregard the bible and the teachings of Jesus and choosing to commit sin and heathenous at every given opportunity .. the Catholic church should make it clear that to be a true christian means to be a catholic see what we have here is the failure to excommunicate Not true funches. Yes Jesus forgives us, but to recieve that forgiveness we need to repent for that sin. Repent = stop doing it. Sins can not be committed intentionally knowing it's a sin, because then the asking for forgiveness would be in vein. again you saying that "Jesus forgives" is you once again placing Jesus before God and breaking the 1st commandment ......if God ask you why you didn't ask him for forgiveness ...what are you going to say ......that it was no need to because you asked Jesus That is because Jesus is the judge of our souls. That's who we'll have to face after we pass away from this mortal life, Jesus. |
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5. Communion wafers - ritualistic cannibalism -------------------- Not sure where you're getting the ritualistic cannibalism, Christians i know don't do that and as far as i know Catholics don't either. eating of the flesh is cannibalism and drinking of the blood is vampirism ...it's just no way around this Yes very true, no argument there. But what does that have to do with anything? The only form of any kind of referance to drinking of blood would be taking what Jesus said literal when he was talking to his appostles Matthew 26:26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body Matthew 26:27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. As you can see, it's not literally meaning they drank any blood. Funches your comment was kind of in left field. Of course cannabolism would be against the teachings of christ, heck bottom line is murdering is against the law. if the bible is truth then everything written in it must be taken literally... if Jesus can turn water into wine then he can turn wine into blood and bread into flesh ...either way ...performing such rituals is practicing cannibalism and vampirism Jesus spoke in parables and you know this Funches. And why must everything be taken literal when Jesus speaks in parables all the way through the bible. oh...so are you admitting that using parables is not speaking the truth but askewing the truth |
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5. Communion wafers - ritualistic cannibalism -------------------- Not sure where you're getting the ritualistic cannibalism, Christians i know don't do that and as far as i know Catholics don't either. eating of the flesh is cannibalism and drinking of the blood is vampirism ...it's just no way around this Yes very true, no argument there. But what does that have to do with anything? The only form of any kind of referance to drinking of blood would be taking what Jesus said literal when he was talking to his appostles Matthew 26:26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body Matthew 26:27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. As you can see, it's not literally meaning they drank any blood. Funches your comment was kind of in left field. Of course cannabolism would be against the teachings of christ, heck bottom line is murdering is against the law. if the bible is truth then everything written in it must be taken literally... if Jesus can turn water into wine then he can turn wine into blood and bread into flesh ...either way ...performing such rituals is practicing cannibalism and vampirism And even if it was taken literal on this one, it would mean the same thing. Cause how could he literally mean that the wine was his blood when he poured it right out of the bottle? And how could the bread literally be his body when he specifically cut it off the loaf? so are you saying that Jesus lacked the power to turn the water into blood and bread into flesh and that he was speaking in half-truths |
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5. Communion wafers - ritualistic cannibalism -------------------- Not sure where you're getting the ritualistic cannibalism, Christians i know don't do that and as far as i know Catholics don't either. eating of the flesh is cannibalism and drinking of the blood is vampirism ...it's just no way around this Yes very true, no argument there. But what does that have to do with anything? The only form of any kind of referance to drinking of blood would be taking what Jesus said literal when he was talking to his appostles Matthew 26:26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body Matthew 26:27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. As you can see, it's not literally meaning they drank any blood. Funches your comment was kind of in left field. Of course cannabolism would be against the teachings of christ, heck bottom line is murdering is against the law. if the bible is truth then everything written in it must be taken literally... if Jesus can turn water into wine then he can turn wine into blood and bread into flesh ...either way ...performing such rituals is practicing cannibalism and vampirism Jesus spoke in parables and you know this Funches. And why must everything be taken literal when Jesus speaks in parables all the way through the bible. oh...so are you admitting that using parables is not speaking the truth but askewing the truth No i'm not saying that at all. Jesus spoke in parables so we could relate it to ourselves easier and could get a better perspective of what he was saying. |
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Because accepting Jesus as lord and savior would then be accepting Jesus being sacrificed for you. If you do not believe this, then i'd say get to sacrificing some nice cows. how could Jesus have sacrifice anything if he didn't die ...the guy was seen walking around three days later ..so where's the sacrifice |
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5. Communion wafers - ritualistic cannibalism -------------------- Not sure where you're getting the ritualistic cannibalism, Christians i know don't do that and as far as i know Catholics don't either. eating of the flesh is cannibalism and drinking of the blood is vampirism ...it's just no way around this Yes very true, no argument there. But what does that have to do with anything? The only form of any kind of referance to drinking of blood would be taking what Jesus said literal when he was talking to his appostles Matthew 26:26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body Matthew 26:27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; Matthew 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. As you can see, it's not literally meaning they drank any blood. Funches your comment was kind of in left field. Of course cannabolism would be against the teachings of christ, heck bottom line is murdering is against the law. if the bible is truth then everything written in it must be taken literally... if Jesus can turn water into wine then he can turn wine into blood and bread into flesh ...either way ...performing such rituals is practicing cannibalism and vampirism And even if it was taken literal on this one, it would mean the same thing. Cause how could he literally mean that the wine was his blood when he poured it right out of the bottle? And how could the bread literally be his body when he specifically cut it off the loaf? so are you saying that Jesus lacked the power to turn the water into blood and bread into flesh and that he was speaking in half-truths No i'm not saying that at all. Jesus had the power to do whatever he wanted. But again, Jesus spoke in parables and said it to where we could relate it to ourselves. |
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Because accepting Jesus as lord and savior would then be accepting Jesus being sacrificed for you. If you do not believe this, then i'd say get to sacrificing some nice cows. how could Jesus have sacrifice anything if he didn't die ...the guy was seen walking around three days later ..so where's the sacrifice The crucifixion was only part of his sacrifice. Jesus gave his ENTIRE life to teaching us of the law. He didn't marry, didn't have kids, didn't do anything but give us the knowledge to get into heaven. |
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lol ok you just believe that. But still regardless of that, we do not "WORSHIP" the cross. We worship God. the commandment didn't say that it has to be worship...it states do not have any carved images that has likeness of anything in Heaven ... and if as you said that a cross represent Christ in memorial...then that is what makes a cross a graven image |
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