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lol,,,the commandments are for Man not God,,,God does not sin against creation, he CREATED it doesn't matter if he follows them or not...you were the one that said that intentionly killing someone is murder .... The unlawful killing of another human being without justification or excuse ( I added intentional and left out unlawful ) ,, it is against the law... laws written for MAN and unable to be applied to God,, because he is just in whatever he does,,,, this of course is my belief,,,,which is why we will have a fundamental difference in opinion when comparing Gods 'accountability' to mankind's |
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If I make a model plane,, and I have it on display and someone ELSE takes it,, thats theft,, If I decide to take it, destroy it, give it away,,,thats no offense because it is MY creation to decide what to do with MsHarmony that's an bad analogy ...let's give you one that fits the subject..let's say that you created a human clone in your image...is it ok if you kill it since you created it actually, yes, If I could actually duplicate myself,,It would be within my right to decide what to do with my duplicate,,,, I dont believe I can duplicate myself however, without God breathing life into my duplicate to make it 'live', in which case the 'living' creation would still belong to God, although its flesh could be attributed to me,,, |
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lol,,,the commandments are for Man not God,,,God does not sin against creation, he CREATED it doesn't matter if he follows them or not...you were the one that said that intentionly killing someone is murder .... The unlawful killing of another human being without justification or excuse ( I added intentional and left out unlawful ) ,, it is against the law... laws written for MAN and unable to be applied to God,, because he is just in whatever he does,,,, this of course is my belief,,,,which is why we will have a fundamental difference in opinion when comparing Gods 'accountability' to mankind's Oh, so you support his killing of thousands of infants, children, and the like... really moral of you. |
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If I make a model plane,, and I have it on display and someone ELSE takes it,, thats theft,, If I decide to take it, destroy it, give it away,,,thats no offense because it is MY creation to decide what to do with MsHarmony that's an bad analogy ...let's give you one that fits the subject..let's say that you created a human clone in your image...is it ok if you kill it since you created it actually, yes, If I could actually duplicate myself,,It would be within my right to decide what to do with my duplicate,,,, Than i am morally superior to you :D |
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lol,,,the commandments are for Man not God,,,God does not sin against creation, he CREATED it doesn't matter if he follows them or not...you were the one that said that intentionly killing someone is murder .... The unlawful killing of another human being without justification or excuse ( I added intentional and left out unlawful ) ,, it is against the law... laws written for MAN and unable to be applied to God,, because he is just in whatever he does,,,, this of course is my belief,,,,which is why we will have a fundamental difference in opinion when comparing Gods 'accountability' to mankind's Oh, so you support his killing of thousands of infants, children, and the like... really moral of you. morals are subjective,,,I believe God was just ,,,,,to take his creation out of the sin of the world,,, but I believe that is ONLY Gods right to do so... |
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lol,,,the commandments are for Man not God,,,God does not sin against creation, he CREATED it doesn't matter if he follows them or not...you were the one that said that intentionly killing someone is murder .... The unlawful killing of another human being without justification or excuse ( I added intentional and left out unlawful ) ,, it is against the law... laws written for MAN and unable to be applied to God,, because he is just in whatever he does,,,, this of course is my belief,,,,which is why we will have a fundamental difference in opinion when comparing Gods 'accountability' to mankind's Oh, so you support his killing of thousands of infants, children, and the like... really moral of you. morals are subjective,,,I believe God was just ,,,,,to take his creation out of the sin of the world,,, but I believe that is ONLY Gods right to do so... I believe that it's no one's right, imaginary or not, to decide the outcome of anyone else's life. I would never kill someone and say it was just. Hence, i am morally superior both to you and your god. |
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If I make a model plane,, and I have it on display and someone ELSE takes it,, thats theft,, If I decide to take it, destroy it, give it away,,,thats no offense because it is MY creation to decide what to do with MsHarmony that's an bad analogy ...let's give you one that fits the subject..let's say that you created a human clone in your image...is it ok if you kill it since you created it actually, yes, If I could actually duplicate myself,,It would be within my right to decide what to do with my duplicate,,,, Than i am morally superior to you :D really? so what if this 'clone' had some strange bacteria, that once it got into the air would kill people for thousands of miles around,,,,,,should I allow others to PERISH to save my creation? should I condemn my creation to a life of isolation? or should I send it back to the nothing from which it came and spare others death and spare my clone an isolated life? life and death choices arent always so simple,, or simply about 'morals' |
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lol,,,the commandments are for Man not God,,,God does not sin against creation, he CREATED it doesn't matter if he follows them or not...you were the one that said that intentionly killing someone is murder .... The unlawful killing of another human being without justification or excuse ( I added intentional and left out unlawful ) ,, it is against the law... laws written for MAN and unable to be applied to God,, because he is just in whatever he does,,,, this of course is my belief,,,,which is why we will have a fundamental difference in opinion when comparing Gods 'accountability' to mankind's Oh, so you support his killing of thousands of infants, children, and the like... really moral of you. Ok first off lets make it clear that in those times the old testament was the law. And in the old testament people were punished for their sins while still on earth. The only people at that time that was righteous was Moses and his family. So they are the only ones that deserved to get on the ark. Also keep in mind, there wasn't many people that inhabited the earth at that time, people tend to forget that and say stuff like "what about the other thousands that were not on the ark." The flood was to cleanse the world of the sin that was here at that time, so in order to do that the most righteous had to be saved while the others were judged and put to death to cleanse the earth of the disease called sin. |
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lol,,,the commandments are for Man not God,,,God does not sin against creation, he CREATED it doesn't matter if he follows them or not...you were the one that said that intentionly killing someone is murder .... The unlawful killing of another human being without justification or excuse ( I added intentional and left out unlawful ) ,, it is against the law... laws written for MAN and unable to be applied to God,, because he is just in whatever he does,,,, this of course is my belief,,,,which is why we will have a fundamental difference in opinion when comparing Gods 'accountability' to mankind's Oh, so you support his killing of thousands of infants, children, and the like... really moral of you. morals are subjective,,,I believe God was just ,,,,,to take his creation out of the sin of the world,,, but I believe that is ONLY Gods right to do so... I believe that it's no one's right, imaginary or not, to decide the outcome of anyone else's life. I would never kill someone and say it was just. Hence, i am morally superior both to you and your god. hmm, you wouldnt make a decision about someone elses life if that someone was endangering those you loved? if they were choking your mom or child for instance? ,, you would just stand by and let the chips fall where they may? |
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If I make a model plane,, and I have it on display and someone ELSE takes it,, thats theft,, If I decide to take it, destroy it, give it away,,,thats no offense because it is MY creation to decide what to do with MsHarmony that's an bad analogy ...let's give you one that fits the subject..let's say that you created a human clone in your image...is it ok if you kill it since you created it actually, yes, If I could actually duplicate myself,,It would be within my right to decide what to do with my duplicate,,,, Than i am morally superior to you :D really? so what if this 'clone' had some strange bacteria, that once it got into the air would kill people for thousands of miles around,,,,,,should I allow others to PERISH to save my creation? should I condemn my creation to a life of isolation? or should I send it back to the nothing from which it came and spare others death and spare my clone an isolated life? life and death choices arent always so simple,, or simply about 'morals' very good analogy for what God was doing. Again, sin is nothing more then a infectious disease. And to clean the planet at the time of this disease God did what was needed. |
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If I make a model plane,, and I have it on display and someone ELSE takes it,, thats theft,, If I decide to take it, destroy it, give it away,,,thats no offense because it is MY creation to decide what to do with MsHarmony that's an bad analogy ...let's give you one that fits the subject..let's say that you created a human clone in your image...is it ok if you kill it since you created it actually, yes, If I could actually duplicate myself,,It would be within my right to decide what to do with my duplicate,,,, so wouldn't you be a murderer if you intentionly kill? |
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If I make a model plane,, and I have it on display and someone ELSE takes it,, thats theft,, If I decide to take it, destroy it, give it away,,,thats no offense because it is MY creation to decide what to do with MsHarmony that's an bad analogy ...let's give you one that fits the subject..let's say that you created a human clone in your image...is it ok if you kill it since you created it actually, yes, If I could actually duplicate myself,,It would be within my right to decide what to do with my duplicate,,,, Than i am morally superior to you :D really? so what if this 'clone' had some strange bacteria, that once it got into the air would kill people for thousands of miles around,,,,,,should I allow others to PERISH to save my creation? should I condemn my creation to a life of isolation? or should I send it back to the nothing from which it came and spare others death and spare my clone an isolated life? life and death choices arent always so simple,, or simply about 'morals' You're taking a different take on it. Originally you said that it was your creation, so your right to choose what happens to it in it's life, even though it would be a fully conscious, knowledgeable creature. Now you're arguing semantics and trying to justify your right to kill it :) |
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very good analogy for what God was doing. Again, sin is nothing more then a infectious disease. And to clean the planet at the time of this disease God did what was needed. Funny, i had the same mentality of infectious faith and the that we need to clean the planet of this disease. |
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Ok first off lets make it clear that in those times the old testament was the law. And in the old testament people were punished for their sins while still on earth. The only people at that time that was righteous was Moses and his family. So they are the only ones that deserved to get on the ark. Also keep in mind, there wasn't many people that inhabited the earth at that time, people tend to forget that and say stuff like "what about the other thousands that were not on the ark." The flood was to cleanse the world of the sin that was here at that time, so in order to do that the most righteous had to be saved while the others were judged and put to death to cleanse the earth of the disease called sin. It's the same god though? We have systems created that are more efficient at making bad men good than this god character did. This guy not only is immoral but lazy. |
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If I make a model plane,, and I have it on display and someone ELSE takes it,, thats theft,, If I decide to take it, destroy it, give it away,,,thats no offense because it is MY creation to decide what to do with MsHarmony that's an bad analogy ...let's give you one that fits the subject..let's say that you created a human clone in your image...is it ok if you kill it since you created it actually, yes, If I could actually duplicate myself,,It would be within my right to decide what to do with my duplicate,,,, so wouldn't you be a murderer if you intentionly kill? Legally, it would entirely depend upon whether the law considered my clone a viable life,,,,and whether the law considered my decision 'justified' morally, as I stated before, because I believe it would require Gods breath of life to create a HUMAN 'life'(not just the physical form), in Gods eyes I would be sinning to make that decision because even my clone, if it lived, would belong to him. |
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lol,,,the commandments are for Man not God,,,God does not sin against creation, he CREATED it doesn't matter if he follows them or not...you were the one that said that intentionly killing someone is murder .... The unlawful killing of another human being without justification or excuse ( I added intentional and left out unlawful ) ,, it is against the law... laws written for MAN and unable to be applied to God,, because he is just in whatever he does,,,, this of course is my belief,,,,which is why we will have a fundamental difference in opinion when comparing Gods 'accountability' to mankind's Oh, so you support his killing of thousands of infants, children, and the like... really moral of you. morals are subjective,,,I believe God was just ,,,,,to take his creation out of the sin of the world,,, but I believe that is ONLY Gods right to do so... I believe that it's no one's right, imaginary or not, to decide the outcome of anyone else's life. I would never kill someone and say it was just. Hence, i am morally superior both to you and your god. hmm, you wouldnt make a decision about someone elses life if that someone was endangering those you loved? if they were choking your mom or child for instance? ,, you would just stand by and let the chips fall where they may? I'd protect my loved ones at any cost, but if it came to kill them, and if i did, i would never justify that their loss of life was to my benefit. |
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Edited by
CowboyGH
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Ok first off lets make it clear that in those times the old testament was the law. And in the old testament people were punished for their sins while still on earth. The only people at that time that was righteous was Moses and his family. So they are the only ones that deserved to get on the ark. Also keep in mind, there wasn't many people that inhabited the earth at that time, people tend to forget that and say stuff like "what about the other thousands that were not on the ark." The flood was to cleanse the world of the sin that was here at that time, so in order to do that the most righteous had to be saved while the others were judged and put to death to cleanse the earth of the disease called sin. It's the same god though? We have systems created that are more efficient at making bad men good than this god character did. This guy not only is immoral but lazy. God is far from lazy. And plus it is our job to get right with God, it's not God's job to get right with us. So you calling him lazy is irrelevant to anything. |
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If I make a model plane,, and I have it on display and someone ELSE takes it,, thats theft,, If I decide to take it, destroy it, give it away,,,thats no offense because it is MY creation to decide what to do with MsHarmony that's an bad analogy ...let's give you one that fits the subject..let's say that you created a human clone in your image...is it ok if you kill it since you created it actually, yes, If I could actually duplicate myself,,It would be within my right to decide what to do with my duplicate,,,, Than i am morally superior to you :D really? so what if this 'clone' had some strange bacteria, that once it got into the air would kill people for thousands of miles around,,,,,,should I allow others to PERISH to save my creation? should I condemn my creation to a life of isolation? or should I send it back to the nothing from which it came and spare others death and spare my clone an isolated life? life and death choices arent always so simple,, or simply about 'morals' You're taking a different take on it. Originally you said that it was your creation, so your right to choose what happens to it in it's life, even though it would be a fully conscious, knowledgeable creature. Now you're arguing semantics and trying to justify your right to kill it :) ITs not a different take, its just a response to a new and different post. It IS Gods creation to do with as he chooses, and he is JUST in his decisions about his creation. |
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Ok first off lets make it clear that in those times the old testament was the law. And in the old testament people were punished for their sins while still on earth. The only people at that time that was righteous was Moses and his family. So they are the only ones that deserved to get on the ark. Also keep in mind, there wasn't many people that inhabited the earth at that time, people tend to forget that and say stuff like "what about the other thousands that were not on the ark." The flood was to cleanse the world of the sin that was here at that time, so in order to do that the most righteous had to be saved while the others were judged and put to death to cleanse the earth of the disease called sin. It's the same god though? We have systems created that are more efficient at making bad men good than this god character did. This guy not only is immoral but lazy. God is far from lazy. And plus it is our job to get right with God, it's not God's fault. So you calling him lazy is irrelevant to anything. You claim the opposite, but don't back it. Instead of helping lead people on a more moral path (which your God doesn't even understand himself) he just kills them (my basis on how he doesn't understand a moral path). Anyway, this is like saying harry potter isn't really a wizard... doesn't matter because he still doesn't exist. :D |
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If I make a model plane,, and I have it on display and someone ELSE takes it,, thats theft,, If I decide to take it, destroy it, give it away,,,thats no offense because it is MY creation to decide what to do with MsHarmony that's an bad analogy ...let's give you one that fits the subject..let's say that you created a human clone in your image...is it ok if you kill it since you created it actually, yes, If I could actually duplicate myself,,It would be within my right to decide what to do with my duplicate,,,, Than i am morally superior to you :D really? so what if this 'clone' had some strange bacteria, that once it got into the air would kill people for thousands of miles around,,,,,,should I allow others to PERISH to save my creation? should I condemn my creation to a life of isolation? or should I send it back to the nothing from which it came and spare others death and spare my clone an isolated life? life and death choices arent always so simple,, or simply about 'morals' You're taking a different take on it. Originally you said that it was your creation, so your right to choose what happens to it in it's life, even though it would be a fully conscious, knowledgeable creature. Now you're arguing semantics and trying to justify your right to kill it :) ITs not a different take, its just a response to a new and different post. It IS Gods creation to do with as he chooses, and he is JUST in his decisions about his creation. Than you are a person who justifies murder. You are a person who justifies infanticide. You are immoral. |
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