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Topic: Is Knowledge a Gift from Satan
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Fri 06/04/10 02:43 PM


The stoning is from the old testiment, and Jesus fullfilled the old testiment. We no longer follow the old testament. There is no more stoning, the only one that will and or can judge us of our sins is Jesus.


Then I guess we can just throw out the ten commandments then, since they were in the old testament too.

Jesus is also (alleged) to have said that he didn't come to bring peace, but a sword...

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Fri 06/04/10 03:53 PM

Adam and Eve survived, they were provided what they needed to survive ,,,,a much different scenario than the notion of sending a child into the streets in these times,,,


so exactly what point in history were there a good time to send children into the streets ....

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Fri 06/04/10 04:03 PM



well, I wouldnt compare being sent into the world as an adult in a sparsely populated biblical time,, to being kicked out of a home as a child in these times

but ,,once I felt grown as my parents, I voluntarily left
unlike my brother, who felt as grown as my parents but still thought they should look after him,,,and was kicked out

so,, yes,, our house had the same rule(with the exception of biological capabilities) ,,if you feel GROWN,, be GROWN and go take care of yourself


there are lots of children that have been abandon or kicked out of the house for reasons lesser than disobedience ....but yet your parents didn't do that to you......why?



well, I was actually a very good child,, but in lieu of that it depended upon what I was PREPARED for,,, as a child in this world where people are abundant, and children are helpless against abusive or sick adults, or guns, or cars, or any number of things which arise from the technology and population of today(as opposed to the NATURAL environment in the age of Adam and Eve), it would have been sending me to slaughter


you were probably a good child just like Adam and Eve was good until they disobeyed God ...so the question was as a child if you disobeyed your parents why didn't they kick you out of the house like God did to Adam and Eve in the garden......clearly so far no one have shown that Adam and Eve had anymore intelligence than that of a child but yet they survived

so again explain why your parents didn't kick you out of the house the first time you disobeyed them

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Sat 06/05/10 02:02 AM


Adam and Eve survived, they were provided what they needed to survive ,,,,a much different scenario than the notion of sending a child into the streets in these times,,,


so exactly what point in history were there a good time to send children into the streets ....



well, I suppose when the world was to sparsely populated to have actual STREETS, and children were more revered and tended to by communities,,,

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Sat 06/05/10 02:03 AM




well, I wouldnt compare being sent into the world as an adult in a sparsely populated biblical time,, to being kicked out of a home as a child in these times

but ,,once I felt grown as my parents, I voluntarily left
unlike my brother, who felt as grown as my parents but still thought they should look after him,,,and was kicked out

so,, yes,, our house had the same rule(with the exception of biological capabilities) ,,if you feel GROWN,, be GROWN and go take care of yourself


there are lots of children that have been abandon or kicked out of the house for reasons lesser than disobedience ....but yet your parents didn't do that to you......why?



well, I was actually a very good child,, but in lieu of that it depended upon what I was PREPARED for,,, as a child in this world where people are abundant, and children are helpless against abusive or sick adults, or guns, or cars, or any number of things which arise from the technology and population of today(as opposed to the NATURAL environment in the age of Adam and Eve), it would have been sending me to slaughter


you were probably a good child just like Adam and Eve was good until they disobeyed God ...so the question was as a child if you disobeyed your parents why didn't they kick you out of the house like God did to Adam and Eve in the garden......clearly so far no one have shown that Adam and Eve had anymore intelligence than that of a child but yet they survived

so again explain why your parents didn't kick you out of the house the first time you disobeyed them



because I was not GROWN and EQUIPPED to survive on my own,,

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Sat 06/05/10 04:39 AM

well, I suppose when the world was to sparsely populated to have actual STREETS, and children were more revered and tended to by communities,,,


so if your child disobeyed you only once.... would you follow God's example and send your child into these conditions

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Sat 06/05/10 04:43 AM





well, I wouldnt compare being sent into the world as an adult in a sparsely populated biblical time,, to being kicked out of a home as a child in these times

but ,,once I felt grown as my parents, I voluntarily left
unlike my brother, who felt as grown as my parents but still thought they should look after him,,,and was kicked out

so,, yes,, our house had the same rule(with the exception of biological capabilities) ,,if you feel GROWN,, be GROWN and go take care of yourself


there are lots of children that have been abandon or kicked out of the house for reasons lesser than disobedience ....but yet your parents didn't do that to you......why?



well, I was actually a very good child,, but in lieu of that it depended upon what I was PREPARED for,,, as a child in this world where people are abundant, and children are helpless against abusive or sick adults, or guns, or cars, or any number of things which arise from the technology and population of today(as opposed to the NATURAL environment in the age of Adam and Eve), it would have been sending me to slaughter


you were probably a good child just like Adam and Eve was good until they disobeyed God ...so the question was as a child if you disobeyed your parents why didn't they kick you out of the house like God did to Adam and Eve in the garden......clearly so far no one have shown that Adam and Eve had anymore intelligence than that of a child but yet they survived

so again explain why your parents didn't kick you out of the house the first time you disobeyed them



because I was not GROWN and EQUIPPED to survive on my own,,


so your parent's motto "if you feel GROWN, BE GROWN and go take care of yourself"..... was all talk and no action

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Sat 06/05/10 11:06 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 06/05/10 11:08 AM


well, I suppose when the world was to sparsely populated to have actual STREETS, and children were more revered and tended to by communities,,,


so if your child disobeyed you only once.... would you follow God's example and send your child into these conditions


If my 'child' was grown and living in an Adam and Eve environment AND I had the Godly power to make sure their needs would be met,,,,yes

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Sat 06/05/10 11:07 AM






well, I wouldnt compare being sent into the world as an adult in a sparsely populated biblical time,, to being kicked out of a home as a child in these times

but ,,once I felt grown as my parents, I voluntarily left
unlike my brother, who felt as grown as my parents but still thought they should look after him,,,and was kicked out

so,, yes,, our house had the same rule(with the exception of biological capabilities) ,,if you feel GROWN,, be GROWN and go take care of yourself


there are lots of children that have been abandon or kicked out of the house for reasons lesser than disobedience ....but yet your parents didn't do that to you......why?



well, I was actually a very good child,, but in lieu of that it depended upon what I was PREPARED for,,, as a child in this world where people are abundant, and children are helpless against abusive or sick adults, or guns, or cars, or any number of things which arise from the technology and population of today(as opposed to the NATURAL environment in the age of Adam and Eve), it would have been sending me to slaughter


you were probably a good child just like Adam and Eve was good until they disobeyed God ...so the question was as a child if you disobeyed your parents why didn't they kick you out of the house like God did to Adam and Eve in the garden......clearly so far no one have shown that Adam and Eve had anymore intelligence than that of a child but yet they survived

so again explain why your parents didn't kick you out of the house the first time you disobeyed them



because I was not GROWN and EQUIPPED to survive on my own,,


so your parent's motto "if you feel GROWN, BE GROWN and go take care of yourself"..... was all talk and no action


not at all, did you miss the part where my brother was kicked out(once he was no longer physically UNABLE to look after himself)?

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Sat 06/05/10 11:33 AM


well, I suppose when the world was to sparsely populated to have actual STREETS, and children were more revered and tended to by communities,,,


so if your child disobeyed you only once.... would you follow God's example and send your child into these conditions


would depends.....

If i told my child if he did this or that and the punishment would be a huge swatting, then yeah i would continue through with the swatting if the child did as such.... If that child was over 18 and i told him that if he did this or that and he would be kicked out of the house and he did as such i would follow through with it and kick him out...

Adam and Eve knew what the consequences would be if they ate of the fruit, and they deliberately disobeyed God. I would have done same.

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Sun 06/06/10 07:26 AM

If my 'child' was grown and living in an Adam and Eve environment AND I had the Godly power to make sure their needs would be met,,,,yes



MsHarmony do you have godly powers? ....if not then why add it to the equation ...also Adam and Eve's environment after they were kicked out of Eden was called "Earth"

why you keep trying to give deceptive responses...isn't deception how Satan got Eve to take from the fruit ....see how you use the knowledge granted by Satan

but anyway you indicated that you would kick your "grown child" out of the house for disobeying you only once...when it was you that fail to teach them what disobedience was

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Sun 06/06/10 07:37 AM

not at all, did you miss the part where my brother was kicked out(once he was no longer physically UNABLE to look after himself)?


no MsHarmony... I didn't miss it...you called it "biological capabilities" which could mean anything from him being in a coma to your parents locking him up in an iron maiden ...as I said you use deceptive responses

all I asked was if you were to disobey your parents only once would you parents keep the motto "if you feel grown, be grown and go take care of yourself" and proceed to kick you out of the house ... apparently the answer is no

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Sun 06/06/10 07:52 AM



well, I suppose when the world was to sparsely populated to have actual STREETS, and children were more revered and tended to by communities,,,


so if your child disobeyed you only once.... would you follow God's example and send your child into these conditions


would depends.....

If i told my child if he did this or that and the punishment would be a huge swatting, then yeah i would continue through with the swatting if the child did as such....


Cowboy.....your response was of a personal natural about you ...remember what you stated earlier in your post below


Cowboy said:
*this is my last post on anything that is personal and out of context with the subject there of*



funches response:
cool....in that case you won't have any examples to use


so what's it going to be Cowboy...are you going to keep giving examples of what you would do personally which will cause me to ask questions of a personal nature or do keep the focus off of what you would do and rephase your response

it probably be easier if I just ask you personal question because otherwise you won't have any examples to use ...think of it as therapy

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Sun 06/06/10 08:21 AM
Edited by CowboyGH on Sun 06/06/10 08:23 AM




well, I suppose when the world was to sparsely populated to have actual STREETS, and children were more revered and tended to by communities,,,


so if your child disobeyed you only once.... would you follow God's example and send your child into these conditions


would depends.....

If i told my child if he did this or that and the punishment would be a huge swatting, then yeah i would continue through with the swatting if the child did as such....


Cowboy.....your response was of a personal natural about you ...remember what you stated earlier in your post below


Cowboy said:
*this is my last post on anything that is personal and out of context with the subject there of*



funches response:
cool....in that case you won't have any examples to use


so what's it going to be Cowboy...are you going to keep giving examples of what you would do personally which will cause me to ask questions of a personal nature or do keep the focus off of what you would do and rephase your response

it probably be easier if I just ask you personal question because otherwise you won't have any examples to use ...think of it as therapy


i was responding to a personal question, so of course i would have to use my own person to answer the question. And it wasn't exactly a personal response anyways, it was a response to have people put themselves in God's position on that decisions he made, a similar position anyways.

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Sun 06/06/10 10:13 AM

i was responding to a personal question, so of course i would have to use my own person to answer the question. And it wasn't exactly a personal response anyways, it was a response to have people put themselves in God's position on that decisions he made, a similar position anyways.


Cowboy.....you said that it wasn't exactly a personal response?????? ....once you use the letter "i" ...it at that point in time became a personal response

let's face it, you seem not to be able to debate without giving personal responses, I only wanted to show you this so you won't keep blaming me when you find yourself in that position and what you say gets you in trouble later during the debate or in another debate because some people may have a memory like an Elephant

just remember "The Miranda Law" is now been named "The Cowboy Law"

Cowboy..you have the right not to give a personal response, if you choose to give a personal response, then anything you say personally, can and will be used against you in a forum of debate

you have the right to a modertor, if you can not afford a moderator then one named MsHarmony will be appointed to you ....Cowboy do you understand your rights

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Sun 06/06/10 10:16 AM

If i told my child if he did this or that and the punishment would be a huge swatting, then yeah i would continue through with the swatting if the child did as such....


Cowboy ....the law may consider that as being child abuse

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Sun 06/06/10 10:19 AM

Adam and Eve knew what the consequences would be if they ate of the fruit, and they deliberately disobeyed God. I would have done same.


if they didn't know what good and evil were...how would they know what the consequence of their actions would be until after the fact...it was God's duty to at least teach them right from wrong..he choose not to and punish them for his inactions

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Sun 06/06/10 10:22 AM



The stoning is from the old testiment, and Jesus fullfilled the old testiment. We no longer follow the old testament. There is no more stoning, the only one that will and or can judge us of our sins is Jesus.


Then I guess we can just throw out the ten commandments then, since they were in the old testament too.

Jesus is also (alleged) to have said that he didn't come to bring peace, but a sword...



the ten commandments are also throughout the new testament.

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Sun 06/06/10 10:25 AM


If my 'child' was grown and living in an Adam and Eve environment AND I had the Godly power to make sure their needs would be met,,,,yes



MsHarmony do you have godly powers? ....if not then why add it to the equation ...also Adam and Eve's environment after they were kicked out of Eden was called "Earth"

why you keep trying to give deceptive responses...isn't deception how Satan got Eve to take from the fruit ....see how you use the knowledge granted by Satan

but anyway you indicated that you would kick your "grown child" out of the house for disobeying you only once...when it was you that fail to teach them what disobedience was


because you are making an analogy between what I would do and what God would do,,,while leaving out VITAL information which puts it in better context

and I am doubting you have children(or possibly even siblings), because adults have the capacity to do things even when they 'know' better,, its called a choice and no fault of anyone but themself

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Sun 06/06/10 10:26 AM


not at all, did you miss the part where my brother was kicked out(once he was no longer physically UNABLE to look after himself)?


no MsHarmony... I didn't miss it...you called it "biological capabilities" which could mean anything from him being in a coma to your parents locking him up in an iron maiden ...as I said you use deceptive responses

all I asked was if you were to disobey your parents only once would you parents keep the motto "if you feel grown, be grown and go take care of yourself" and proceed to kick you out of the house ... apparently the answer is no



the answer is , no, I would not kick out a child
but YES , I would kick out my grown offspring if they chose not to respect my rules,,

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