Man will always have consequences to their action and always find ways to try and alter their own consequences.

sounds like the same thing Pat Robertson said about Haiti

No, Pat singled out one people and assumed what their sin was and HOW it would be judged. I merely stated the fact that consequences are a real thing and mankind , in general, will find ways to try to alter the consequences of their actions.

that is what Pat meant about haitians making a deal with Satan ..what you did is just singled out the entire Human Race ...

So if a fireman is suicidal, then you would worship him?

indeed.

And exactly why would Satan think this?
"hmmm...ok, God created the heavens and the earth. He created life on the Earth. He created us angels.
hmmm...well I've got this light thing going on....yeah, I can take him..."---Satan's last words in Heaven

just out of curiousity, when exactly did you lose your mind? Your comments used to be so brilliant and eloquent, if a bit wordy.

I miss the old miles...

I can imagine the 'archaeologists' of the 28th century (being 'digital archaeologists, who don't dig up the earth, they dig up old youtube videos...) having a field day with this one.

That is some hard-core crazy talk; I'm embarrassed to belong to the same species as him.

I am missing what miles posted that was crazy or embarassing,, can someone please put the quotes to point it out to me,,,,,?

fowl play?? Somone gave the bird to Haiti??

i'm sorry...that just struck me as very funny...

of course we can move mountains...well you can anyway. if any 2 christians agree on something in the lord's name....

Are you making assumptions?

No, Arcamedes implied miles was crazy, Im wondering what in miles previous post draws Arcamedes to that conclusion.

That is for sure msharmony.. Man changes his own rules constantly to make himself right.. Isaiah said it very well when he said of this generation.. Everyman will do what he see as right in his own eyes. So very true we can see that on these boards.. We should remember what James said We look into a mirror and see us for what we are but when we walk away we forget who we truely are... Blessings of Shalom..Miles

you guys are "parable preaching" and being vague .....what rules? .....come on name some specific rules of God that Man has change that neither one of you are involved in ...

Actually, miles posted that man changes MANS laws, not Gods. It was once illegal to do many things that are now acceptable the same is true the opposite way around. It was not always illegal to have pot but now it is. At different times in our historyour laws have prohibited things and later unprhobited them. I dont feel a need to post all the laws that have changed in mans history.

If God did do this I hardly blame him.This country sounds about as far from anything good as I can imagine.



A short history of Haiti

For tourists on cruise ships plying the Caribbean, Haiti appears a beguiling, mysterious place.The first independent black state, set up 200 years ago after a rebellion by African slaves against colonial France, the mountainous island is home to exotic birds and animals and mist-shrouded tropical forests.


But it is no paradise for the country's nine million people. Indeed, the devastating earthquake now bringing death and heartbreak is the latest in a long line of tragedies to befall a place dubbed the Island of the Damned.

No paradise: A houngan, or voodoo priest, lights a pipe in his temple in Haiti.Those with the misfortune to be born in Haiti - part of the island of Hispaniola, shared with the Dominican Republic - have long endured a living hell. With one in ten under-40s infected with HIV, and millions living in squalor and destitution, thousands try to flee each year to the U.S. by hanging on to anything that will float.


While hurricanes, floods and earthquakes have all devastated the landscape over the years, the biggest threat has come from humans.
Successive dictators have raped, murdered and even reputedly eaten their enemies.Described by one commentator as an 'international crime scene' rather than a country, Haiti became infamous around the world during the reign of Francois 'Papa Doc' Duvalier, a former doctor who murdered 100,000 people and formed a private band of killers called the Tonton Macoutes.


Wearing their trademark mirrored sunglasses and designer T-shirts, these murderers and cannibals were named after a terrifying bogeyman from Haitian mythology, who carried off naughty children into slavery.The Tonton Macoutes cut out the hearts, eyes and lungs of opponents with machetes, while Papa Doc, who stole almost a billion pounds in foreign aid, insisted that every television and radio programme had to be entirely in praise of his rule.

In power from 1957, Papa Doc made voodoo the country's official religion and claimed to be Baron Samedi, the religion's spirit of death.He often wore a top hat and tails while demanding the skulls of his dead victims were brought to his palace in Port-au-Prince.
He collected blood from prisoners who had been tortured and killed and sold it for $22 a pint to U.S. health groups.

He once ordered the death of all black dogs in the country after a political enemy was rumoured to have transformed into one.Haitian women participate in a voodoo ritual which includes animal sacrifice
Even after Papa Doc died in 1971 there was no respite for Haiti. Baby Doc, his deranged son, took over and continued the terror.

His wife spent £10,000 a month on flowers and always wore expensive furs indoors - with officials facing death if they forgot to turn on the air-conditioning.After 15 more years of bloodshed and oppression, the people finally rose up in 1986 and Baby Doc was forced to flee into exile in France.

But the torment did not end with the Duvaliers. After the country's first free elections in 1991, the new president, Jean Bertrand Aristide, was forced to flee after a coup by corrupt military figures keen to control lucrative cocaine smuggling routes.In 1993, I watched as the might of the U.S. military was repelled by mobs armed with stones and clubs when American troops arrived to restore order.

Papa and Baby Doc were long gone, but gangs of Tonton Macoutes roamed the streets in pick-up trucks, randomly shooting anyone they passed. Aristide returned to power in 1994 with a bigger U.S. force - only to flee again after threats that he would be hacked to death and eaten. Since then, despite the presence of an ineffective UN peacekeeping force, gangs have continued to wreak havoc and murder throughout a country where new graves are guarded to prevent bodies being stolen for voodoo rituals.

The most infamous of these killers is the Cannibal Gang, a group of sadists once led by a former prisoner with political aspirations, who was himself shot in the eyes and had his heart cut out in 2004.
His gang lives on, murdering innocent people and allegedly eating their organs.For the people of Haiti, though, hope has always been a rare commodity.

Perhaps they can now find some hope from the destruction.

I noticed (and I have been told by a few Haitians) that these people seem to have an amazing resiliance, surviving things that most americans would never get through. I found it amazing the shape some of these children were in after being trapped in carnage for days and how QUICKLY they seemed to recover(perhaps these are a people more blessed than the current situation allows us to see).

Many a great people have gone through terrible tests and tragedies before being lifted up,,perhaps it is time for Haiti. I wish them so many blessings.