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Topic: America.."land of the free"
kow626's photo
Sun 12/27/09 09:06 PM
a plus to living in america and other developed countries is not having to see multiple dead bodies laying around for days on end to the point of it being everyday life. i'm really thankful for that.

biker7372's photo
Sun 12/27/09 09:18 PM
I'm Irish and also British, seems a lot of you guys have a problem understanding this, so that's not great.

Atlantis75's photo
Mon 12/28/09 01:17 AM

a plus to living in america and other developed countries is not having to see multiple dead bodies laying around for days on end to the point of it being everyday life. i'm really thankful for that.


just where do you see those? scared

Fanta46's photo
Mon 12/28/09 09:15 AM



I think Obama works through his heart and mind.

He cares for what the people want! The majority anyway.

His work ethic is above average, and his intentions are genuine.

I think he is a necessary step into America's future. A future full of more greatness, strength, leadership!
he he i should cut and paste some old emails huh?laugh :wink:


I still have a picture.:wink:

A picture of a gold miner. laugh

HuckleberryFinn's photo
Mon 12/28/09 10:26 AM
a plus to living in america and other developed countries is not having to see multiple dead bodies laying around for days on end to the point of it being everyday life. i'm really thankful for that

^nope, you're right, they don't lie around, they get shipped to the morgue.....kids killing kids and parents kill their kids and we lable it post pardum and sent them to psych wards because after all it's a sickness......course I guess it is better than Rwanda huh.....

Drivinmenutz's photo
Mon 01/04/10 11:05 AM








flowerforyou !

you give me too much credit ms.buttonblushing , i am just another teenage boy flexing his pseudo intellectual robustness, all flash no content :P

but i agree this is not the land of the "free" but rather land of the privileged, yet still there are many people out there who would gladly their trade rebel insurgency for our taxes lol.
lol!rofl rofl to the first part

as to the second part.. it is land of the privileged , however why does it seem protrayed to other countries that all here are privileged?..and sure we must have the best colleges overall in america.. why do u suppose that we ship in people from the other countries to provide them with education? to pay the high costs of the education is why..in return we ship out our business to pay thier countries low wages.. hummm


From CBS news

The United States is losing ground in education, as peers across the globe zoom by with bigger gains in student achievement and school graduations, a study shows.

Among adults age 25 to 34, the U.S. is ninth among industrialized nations in the share of its population that has at least a high school degree. In the same age group, the United States ranks seventh, with Belgium, in the share of people who hold a college degree.

...we were number one just twenty years ago,,what happened?


It's called the "Department of Education".


Department of Education was invented in 1977 under the Carter presidency.

Seems to me, like we were number one until 1980 or so, and then we slipped to place number 12 or 13. Either way... We have to ask how much the Department of Education actually helped us.


The Dept of Ed Organization Act is what was signed into law in 1979.

All it did was seperate Department of Health, Education, and Welfare into the Department of Education and the Department of Health and Human Services.

The Department of Health, Education, and Welfare was first proposed by President Harding in 1923. It was signed into law and officially created by Dwight D. Eisenhower on March 12, 1953.

You've been listening to Ron Paul again haven't you?
LOL


No sir, been doing my own research. Perhaps i could be wrong, but carter was at least wanting to take credit for signing it into affect in 1977. When they separated the departments, did the department of education have more power than before? Or perhaps more funding? Things to take into consideration...

But what you say may make sense. After all, how long has the school system taught students that America is a democracy? (This still ticks me off.)

One thing, that i have found to be true, you may disagree, but in the military small units are much more affective. When the units become bigger, the power gets more centralized. Following this is mismanagement, and inefficiency. Do you have any idea how easy it is for a team of 4, combined with a mortar team, to take on hundreds of U.S. troops and come out unharmed? Chaos is easy to create when power is centralized and units are too big.

Wonder if that comes into effect for the rest of the government too...

Either way, i don't know of any teacher that approves of the majority of our educational system. My mother was a teacher, my sister tests children for learning disabilities, my cousin/neighbor is also in childhood development, studying to become a teacher.





That bill (1979) only divided the The Department of Health, Education, and Welfare into separate departments.


Ok, you are right. I was thinking about the community reinvestment act...drinker

Drivinmenutz's photo
Mon 01/04/10 11:14 AM
Edited by Drivinmenutz on Mon 01/04/10 11:20 AM



He's more of a puppet for outside intersts than Bush and Cheney were.


You crack me up sometimes...rofl

What's funny is that you think Obama's a stand up guy in comparison...rofl rofl


I think Obama works through his heart and mind.

He cares for what the people want! The majority anyway.

His work ethic is above average, and his intentions are genuine.

I think he is a necessary step into America's future. A future full of more greatness, strength, leadership!


I don't dislike Obama, when i compare him to almost every president we had this century.


But, he represents sacrificing our future for the present. But i suppose you'd have to understand our monetary system in order to understand that.

Besides, it seems his biggest problem with Bush, was not in his policies, but in Bush not spending enough money on his policies.

Either way, Obama, like Bush/Cheney, is a little too authoritarian for me.


And one question we have to ask even though Obama may be the Angel the democrats make him out to be, "what happens when someone else gets into office that is a little less genuine?"

Power of censorship, using money collected from the poor and middle class to give to the rich. The government controlling industry.

RKISIT's photo
Mon 01/04/10 11:35 AM
people ask me if i think this is the greatest country, i tell them i haven't lived in any other country so i don't know if it is or isn't:smile: i do know one thing it isn't as free as people think,to many "you can't do this or that laws", if you get in a fight the D.A. can charge you with attempted murder....no country is perfect so thats why i can't say this is the best country,it's better than North Korea i guess.



buttons's photo
Mon 01/04/10 02:31 PM




I think Obama works through his heart and mind.

He cares for what the people want! The majority anyway.

His work ethic is above average, and his intentions are genuine.

I think he is a necessary step into America's future. A future full of more greatness, strength, leadership!
he he i should cut and paste some old emails huh?laugh :wink:


I still have a picture.:wink:

A picture of a gold miner. laugh
laugh laugh geesh fanta, i never knew that me pretending to pick my nose to prove that i was me, 3 yrs ago turned u on so much as to keep that picture lol!

msharmony's photo
Mon 01/04/10 04:17 PM

people ask me if i think this is the greatest country, i tell them i haven't lived in any other country so i don't know if it is or isn't:smile: i do know one thing it isn't as free as people think,to many "you can't do this or that laws", if you get in a fight the D.A. can charge you with attempted murder....no country is perfect so thats why i can't say this is the best country,it's better than North Korea i guess.






I dont think it is the best or the worst.

CatsLoveMe's photo
Mon 01/04/10 04:31 PM

so do tell, what do you think makes America "land of the free"?
Tell me what makes you be proud being an american living in the land of free? do you feel that we americans really have it all that well? How do you think America differs from 25 yrs ago? What do you think that other countries think of America? and does America protray itself as it really is? Note no one is right or wrong here.. just asking your thoughts on it all...


I don't want to get too detailed here, but despite the U.S. being the great melting pot of different races and cultures, we have a long way to go in terms of tolerance and coexistence. America is at times a bit arrogant and egotistical when it comes to learning from other countries' successes and failures. America has become the superhero of the world, wherever there's trouble, just flash the bat-signal, we're on our way. That also paints a pretty big target on our backs. America also needs to tune-up it's diplomacy skills and not rely so much on threats and posturing. The goal is peace, not escalating a situation, no matter who is at fault. And lastly, we have become far too dependent on Chinese manufactured goods. Enough already, stop borrowing and buying from China. I'd like to see more made in the U.S.A. goods.

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