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Topic: America.."land of the free"
trunner69 Joined Thu 10/30/08 Posts: 762	Fri 12/18/09 08:37 PM
what does land of the free mean? free to have babies here because someone is here in the country.. illegaly? do they do that to a american who pays their taxes? or hasnt been on healthcare because they worked all their life is having a baby at age 40 and happened to pay for their 2 cars they already owned from working and paying taxes for the 22 yrs they worked? is taking away that second car fair? is another example of land of the free? Bringing a new life into the world is wonderful...even if it is from someone who illegally here. President Reagan opened pandoras box on this and we have not been able to shut yet. This is why we vote to do or best to prevent these from happening...when all else fails...write your congressman or woman and start your own petition is the "American" way you know..

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Fri 12/18/09 08:39 PM
Piss tests were an invasion of privacy. You could still find a Virgin over the age of 12. I still had all my hair. Men were Men. NASCAR was racing. Free Agency didn't exist.

markc48 Joined Wed 05/07/08 Posts: 5536	Fri 12/18/09 08:40 PM
so do tell, what do you think makes America "land of the free"? Tell me what makes you be proud being an american living in the land of free? do you feel that we americans really have it all that well? How do you think America differs from 25 yrs ago? What do you think that other countries think of America? and does America protray itself as it really is? Note no one is right or wrong here.. just asking yor thoughts on it all... First of all, I think anyone who has been around a while could write a short story about this or maybe even a book. The freedom that our boys and myself have defended is so many things. (From the very small to some things that effect our everyday lives. Being able to work in whatever profession you want to practicing whatever religion you want. Saying what you feel and voicing your opinion...and the list goes on. I am proud to be an American cause I have pride in who I am and after serving in the Navy it something I can hardly explain being on a carrier and launching F-14s. You just have to be there to know the feeling. In the past 25 years some of our conservitive ideals have changed...And in this we are changed forever as it is always important not to look back but ahead. Some countries hate us and some thing we are great. Most of this is from overseas experience. It depends who you talk to. I think most still think we are still a Super power...But we are slipping fast and President Obama is being tested in so many ways. i definately am not degrading any armed services to do what they are sent to do... and i feel u are much stronger than any government! sure americans can choose but doesnt that take money? if i so much chose to be a chef does that make me one? do i not need the 42 thousand dollars to go to school to be one? is that free? or does my cost only come from my hopes? also because i chose to do that does that mean i would get that one job in 2,000 allpying for the job? No But if you decided to become a caterer and went out and found your own parties, and made good food and had good service. You would have your own business

trunner69 Joined Thu 10/30/08 Posts: 762	Fri 12/18/09 08:40 PM
so do tell, what do you think makes America "land of the free"? Tell me what makes you be proud being an american living in the land of free? do you feel that we americans really have it all that well? How do you think America differs from 25 yrs ago? What do you think that other countries think of America? and does America protray itself as it really is? Note no one is right or wrong here.. just asking yor thoughts on it all... First of all, I think anyone who has been around a while could write a short story about this or maybe even a book. The freedom that our boys and myself have defended is so many things. (From the very small to some things that effect our everyday lives. Being able to work in whatever profession you want to practicing whatever religion you want. Saying what you feel and voicing your opinion...and the list goes on. I am proud to be an American cause I have pride in who I am and after serving in the Navy it something I can hardly explain being on a carrier and launching F-14s. You just have to be there to know the feeling. In the past 25 years some of our conservitive ideals have changed...And in this we are changed forever as it is always important not to look back but ahead. Some countries hate us and some thing we are great. Most of this is from overseas experience. It depends who you talk to. I think most still think we are still a Super power...But we are slipping fast and President Obama is being tested in so many ways. i definately am not degrading any armed services to do what they are sent to do... and i feel u are much stronger than any government! sure americans can choose but doesnt that take money? if i so much chose to be a chef does that make me one? do i not need the 42 thousand dollars to go to school to be one? is that free? or does my cost only come from my hopes? also because i chose to do that does that mean i would get that one job in 2,000 allpying for the job? Is the American way of competetion and everyone has to start somewhere...AS for the schooling...If you served our country they will pay for your education...GI Bill

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Fri 12/18/09 08:44 PM
so do tell, what do you think makes America "land of the free"? Tell me what makes you be proud being an american living in the land of free? do you feel that we americans really have it all that well? How do you think America differs from 25 yrs ago? What do you think that other countries think of America? and does America protray itself as it really is? Note no one is right or wrong here.. just asking your thoughts on it all... A lot more nosey people today who think your business should be theirs. More equal opportunity and workers rights. The gap between classes was narrower. Our standard of living compared to the rest of the world was much higher. No illegal immigrants on the East Coast. Instead we had migrant workers. Almost all cars on the road were American Made. No cell phones. No PlayStation's or X-Box. No Internet. Women were real. Women my age had perkier breasts. Baby Bush was an idiot. Oh wait that hasn't changed. Oh yeah, Americans were innocent until proven guilty. Almost all the clothes we wore were made in America.

markc48 Joined Wed 05/07/08 Posts: 5536	Fri 12/18/09 08:45 PM
Look a buddy of mine when I worked at Lowes said this: I didn't have a job when I found this one. And you will too. Unless you get bold and make your own job.

buttons Joined Mon 11/06/06 Posts: 25783	Fri 12/18/09 08:50 PM
mark here they arent small businesses not all of them... sure some do because the open a company dont know how to run it.. etc.. but many many big companies too that have been around for yrs and been successful.. do u not think it is the economy? because all the others lose their jobs and can not buy? I here ya. I'm from Michigan the biggest loser in all this economy. And when they were pushing bailouts. They bought people out of their jobs, their unemployment. And the auto industry pushed everyones jobs. when the unemployment runs out. I dont know whats going to happen. heres a great story 4 u! and this goes on all over america... i have worked the last 3 yrs part time.. low wages.. i was not supplied with eqipment to do my job duties.. my computer crashed regularly, because of this i did not get my work in ontime, they kept having me fix the computer on my owntime< oh 10 times in a month> not a part of my job duties mind u i was not hired as computer tech,although i asked for a new one 4 times i would drive to my job use my money for gas... and get there and it crashed, i would put in my timecards several times and it crashed.. over and over.. health insurance was as much as i made most months to buy.. so i didnt.. for all of this my stress level was so high because i could not possibly succede uder these conditions.. i was not sleeping all night over this.. many a nights.. and weekends but i could not afford to go to the docter either.. nor buy sleeping pills that would cover the issues temporarely till 2 days later when this would happen again... now so i get a letter that states unless i contact them that it would be a voluntary resognation... yet the same as if i never contacted them at all and let them know im done... all because why? because its a very huge company all over the world... and they could not provide me with tools to do my job.. and did not want to pay me for unemployment.. so i am another who does not matter and does not count because of the way the government runs the system...

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Fri 12/18/09 08:50 PM Edited by Fanta46 on Fri 12/18/09 08:55 PM
so do tell, what do you think makes America "land of the free"? Tell me what makes you be proud being an american living in the land of free? do you feel that we americans really have it all that well? How do you think America differs from 25 yrs ago? What do you think that other countries think of America? and does America protray itself as it really is? Note no one is right or wrong here.. just asking your thoughts on it all... A lot more nosey people today who think your business should be theirs. More equal opportunity and workers rights. The gap between classes was narrower. Our standard of living compared to the rest of the world was much higher. No illegal immigrants on the East Coast. Instead we had migrant workers. Almost all cars on the road were American Made. No cell phones. No PlayStation's or X-Box. No Internet. Women were real. Women my age had perkier breasts. Baby Bush was an idiot. Oh wait that hasn't changed. Oh yeah, Americans were innocent until proven guilty. Almost all the clothes we wore were made in America. Ciggs were .26 a pack. Gas was .25 a gallon. Milk was .05 a pint. It took 7 DM (German) to make a dollar. Parents were respected not befriended. Cops weren't as likely to abuse people. Of course they don't even call it abuse now. They call it their job.

buttons Joined Mon 11/06/06 Posts: 25783	Fri 12/18/09 08:59 PM Edited by buttons on Fri 12/18/09 08:59 PM
lol!!! all of u.. i agree with all of u.. but it is all stuff to think about huh?

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Fri 12/18/09 09:02 PM
so do tell, what do you think makes America "land of the free"? Tell me what makes you be proud being an american living in the land of free? do you feel that we americans really have it all that well? How do you think America differs from 25 yrs ago? What do you think that other countries think of America? and does America protray itself as it really is? Note no one is right or wrong here.. just asking your thoughts on it all... A lot more nosey people today who think your business should be theirs. More equal opportunity and workers rights. The gap between classes was narrower. Our standard of living compared to the rest of the world was much higher. No illegal immigrants on the East Coast. Instead we had migrant workers. Almost all cars on the road were American Made. No cell phones. No PlayStation's or X-Box. No Internet. Women were real. Women my age had perkier breasts. Baby Bush was an idiot. Oh wait that hasn't changed. Oh yeah, Americans were innocent until proven guilty. Almost all the clothes we wore were made in America. Ciggs were .26 a pack. Gas was .25 a gallon. Milk was .05 a pint. It took 7 DM (German) to make a dollar. Parents were respected not befriended. Cops weren't as likely to abuse people. Of course they don't even call it abuse now. They call it their job. You wouldn't get a ticket for not wearing a seat-belt. You wouldn't get a ticket fro being a daredevil and ride a bike without a helmut. You could be rescued without being billed.

trunner69 Joined Thu 10/30/08 Posts: 762	Fri 12/18/09 09:03 PM
lol!!! all of u.. i agree with all of u.. but it is all stuff to think about huh? It helps us to remember why we are Americans and to continue to push forward

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Fri 12/18/09 09:05 PM
so do tell, what do you think makes America "land of the free"? Tell me what makes you be proud being an american living in the land of free? do you feel that we americans really have it all that well? How do you think America differs from 25 yrs ago? What do you think that other countries think of America? and does America protray itself as it really is? Note no one is right or wrong here.. just asking your thoughts on it all... A lot more nosey people today who think your business should be theirs. More equal opportunity and workers rights. The gap between classes was narrower. Our standard of living compared to the rest of the world was much higher. No illegal immigrants on the East Coast. Instead we had migrant workers. Almost all cars on the road were American Made. No cell phones. No PlayStation's or X-Box. No Internet. Women were real. Women my age had perkier breasts. Baby Bush was an idiot. Oh wait that hasn't changed. Oh yeah, Americans were innocent until proven guilty. Almost all the clothes we wore were made in America. Ciggs were .26 a pack. Gas was .25 a gallon. Milk was .05 a pint. It took 7 DM (German) to make a dollar. Parents were respected not befriended. Cops weren't as likely to abuse people. Of course they don't even call it abuse now. They call it their job. You wouldn't get a ticket for not wearing a seat-belt. You wouldn't get a ticket fro being a daredevil and ride a bike without a helmut. You could be rescued without being billed. Credit Cards weren't given out like candy. Even with good credit you needed at least a 10% down-payment to buy a house.

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Fri 12/18/09 09:07 PM
so do tell, what do you think makes America "land of the free"? Tell me what makes you be proud being an american living in the land of free? do you feel that we americans really have it all that well? How do you think America differs from 25 yrs ago? What do you think that other countries think of America? and does America protray itself as it really is? Note no one is right or wrong here.. just asking your thoughts on it all... A lot more nosey people today who think your business should be theirs. More equal opportunity and workers rights. The gap between classes was narrower. Our standard of living compared to the rest of the world was much higher. No illegal immigrants on the East Coast. Instead we had migrant workers. Almost all cars on the road were American Made. No cell phones. No PlayStation's or X-Box. No Internet. Women were real. Women my age had perkier breasts. Baby Bush was an idiot. Oh wait that hasn't changed. Oh yeah, Americans were innocent until proven guilty. Almost all the clothes we wore were made in America. Ciggs were .26 a pack. Gas was .25 a gallon. Milk was .05 a pint. It took 7 DM (German) to make a dollar. Parents were respected not befriended. Cops weren't as likely to abuse people. Of course they don't even call it abuse now. They call it their job. You wouldn't get a ticket for not wearing a seat-belt. You wouldn't get a ticket fro being a daredevil and ride a bike without a helmut. You could be rescued without being billed. Credit Cards weren't given out like candy. Even with good credit you needed at least a 10% down-payment to buy a house. Young Americans were willing to do manual labor and start from the bottom.

buttons Joined Mon 11/06/06 Posts: 25783	Fri 12/18/09 09:08 PM
trunner i beleive i did serve this country.. for when i was young and had my children there may have been 2 girls in the armed forces.. anyhow i raised my 3 children to be good people.. because i "chose" to do somethig different than u did should not make me less american right? i worked when i was 14 yrs old... and all through raising my kids except for 3 yrs.. in that time i ran 2 girl scout troops on my own.. to learn to be a good citizen.. also did it for 4 yrs after that as well while i worked.. helped not ran but was there every meeting... and did extra for them as well..i have as well cared for a single fathers children while he was locally doing for the government what u do... so i know i have done my part but i chose to do so in a different way.. is all

buttons Joined Mon 11/06/06 Posts: 25783	Fri 12/18/09 09:12 PM
dang fanta.. do ya gotta quote yourself?

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Fri 12/18/09 09:13 PM
dang fanta.. do ya gotta quote yourself? Shh, I making you a list.

buttons Joined Mon 11/06/06 Posts: 25783	Fri 12/18/09 09:13 PM
lol!!! all of u.. i agree with all of u.. but it is all stuff to think about huh? It helps us to remember why we are Americans and to continue to push forward i dunno if that has to do with american.. but maybe more within yourself? like the saying goes... if it is to be its up to me..

trunner69 Joined Thu 10/30/08 Posts: 762	Fri 12/18/09 09:14 PM
trunner i beleive i did serve this country.. for when i was young and had my children there may have been 2 girls in the armed forces.. anyhow i raised my 3 children to be good people.. because i "chose" to do somethig different than u did should not make me less american right? i worked when i was 14 yrs old... and all through raising my kids except for 3 yrs.. in that time i ran 2 girl scout troops on my own.. to learn to be a good citizen.. also did it for 4 yrs after that as well while i worked.. helped not ran but was there every meeting... and did extra for them as well..i have as well cared for a single fathers children while he was locally doing for the government what u do... so i know i have done my part but i chose to do so in a different way.. is all Good for you..was not intended as a put down...was just a way of expressing one of my own high points in life. Looks like you definately have put in your time and I'm sure you made a difference in peoples lives...

buttons Joined Mon 11/06/06 Posts: 25783	Fri 12/18/09 09:14 PM
dang fanta.. do ya gotta quote yourself? Shh, I making you a list. gawd forbid please dont have us all check it twice.. lmao! or is that 3, 4, 5 times?

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Fri 12/18/09 09:15 PM
so do tell, what do you think makes America "land of the free"? Tell me what makes you be proud being an american living in the land of free? do you feel that we americans really have it all that well? How do you think America differs from 25 yrs ago? What do you think that other countries think of America? and does America protray itself as it really is? Note no one is right or wrong here.. just asking your thoughts on it all... A lot more nosey people today who think your business should be theirs. More equal opportunity and workers rights. The gap between classes was narrower. Our standard of living compared to the rest of the world was much higher. No illegal immigrants on the East Coast. Instead we had migrant workers. Almost all cars on the road were American Made. No cell phones. No PlayStation's or X-Box. No Internet. Women were real. Women my age had perkier breasts. Baby Bush was an idiot. Oh wait that hasn't changed. Oh yeah, Americans were innocent until proven guilty. Almost all the clothes we wore were made in America. Ciggs were .26 a pack. Gas was .25 a gallon. Milk was .05 a pint. It took 7 DM (German) to make a dollar. Parents were respected not befriended. Cops weren't as likely to abuse people. Of course they don't even call it abuse now. They call it their job. You wouldn't get a ticket for not wearing a seat-belt. You wouldn't get a ticket fro being a daredevil and ride a bike without a helmut. You could be rescued without being billed. Credit Cards weren't given out like candy. Even with good credit you needed at least a 10% down-payment to buy a house. Young Americans were willing to do manual labor and start from the bottom. Piss tests were an invasion of privacy. You could still find a Virgin over the age of 12. I still had all my hair. Men were Men. NASCAR was racing. Free Agency didn't exist. McDonalds still served a real burger and fries.