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Topic: Recovering from religious extremism - Religiosity
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Mon 01/04/10 12:34 PM






We are required to put FAITH in the validity of most documents that dont record something we experienced personally.


Msharmony.....only doubt requires faith


Faith : something that is believed especially with strong conviction;


I guess miriam webster forgot to mention the doubt thing,,,,


to believe is to doubt




okie dokie,,,,God loves you too...


did a voice tell you this or you read it in a book


I know it in my heart, for he blesses you with people that indulge your independent philosophies respectfully and courteously, I know he loves you , even if you doubt it or him

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Mon 01/04/10 12:39 PM
And they say that "he loves you whether you like it or not" as if you are not supposed to be offended by someone wishing you a celestial stalker...lol

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Mon 01/04/10 12:40 PM
I never thought love and stalking were the same thing. Love being a bad thing must be one of those new ideas in our culture that I could never understand if I tried,,,,

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Mon 01/04/10 12:49 PM
What happens when someone you don't want to love you, loves you? It is a stalker situation. They watch you when you do not want to be watched, etc...

So wishing someone an all powerful, unseen, celestial stalker could actually be a frightening thing if not completely annoying.

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Mon 01/04/10 12:53 PM

What happens when someone you don't want to love you, loves you? It is a stalker situation. They watch you when you do not want to be watched, etc...

So wishing someone an all powerful, unseen, celestial stalker could actually be a frightening thing if not completely annoying.



As far as I know ,, nothing happens, unless they choose to ACT on that love in some way. I love my ex husband even though he hates me. My love is my personal emotion towards him and has no affect on his life.

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Mon 01/04/10 01:17 PM







We are required to put FAITH in the validity of most documents that dont record something we experienced personally.


Msharmony.....only doubt requires faith


Faith : something that is believed especially with strong conviction;


I guess miriam webster forgot to mention the doubt thing,,,,


to believe is to doubt




okie dokie,,,,God loves you too...


did a voice tell you this or you read it in a book


I know it in my heart, for he blesses you with people that indulge your independent philosophies respectfully and courteously, I know he loves you , even if you doubt it or him


MsHarmony...what's in your heart is blood......you can only know if God loves anyone if you hear voices or God personally told you or you read it in a book...so which is it

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Mon 01/04/10 01:19 PM








We are required to put FAITH in the validity of most documents that dont record something we experienced personally.


Msharmony.....only doubt requires faith


Faith : something that is believed especially with strong conviction;


I guess miriam webster forgot to mention the doubt thing,,,,


to believe is to doubt




okie dokie,,,,God loves you too...


did a voice tell you this or you read it in a book


I know it in my heart, for he blesses you with people that indulge your independent philosophies respectfully and courteously, I know he loves you , even if you doubt it or him


MsHarmony...what's in your heart is blood......you can only know if God loves anyone if you hear voices or God personally told you or you read it in a book...so which is it



I feel for you,,if my mom were mute and never spoke the words to me, I would know she loved me, I dont need a voice to know what I know, I just need to observe and have faith.

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Mon 01/04/10 01:24 PM

I feel for you,,if my mom were mute and never spoke the words to me, I would know she loved me, I dont need a voice to know what I know, I just need to observe and have faith.


MsHarmony..what you feel may be Gas ...also your mom can write or use sign language to get her point across ....so do tell...just admit that you hear voices and that is how you know that God loves people

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Mon 01/04/10 01:27 PM


I feel for you,,if my mom were mute and never spoke the words to me, I would know she loved me, I dont need a voice to know what I know, I just need to observe and have faith.


MsHarmony..what you feel may be Gas ...also your mom can write or use sign language to get her point across ....so do tell...just admit that you hear voices and that is how you know that God loves people


nah, I know it like I know my father is my father,, I wasnt there, I have had no dna test to prove it,, but I know it. The bible told me of God and Gods love and I know it to be true. Just like my mom and dad told me he was my father and I know that to be true as well.no voices in my head required.

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Mon 01/04/10 01:33 PM

The bible told me of God and Gods love and I know it to be true.


I rest my case

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Mon 01/04/10 01:38 PM


The bible told me of God and Gods love and I know it to be true.


I rest my case



thank goodness

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Mon 01/04/10 01:42 PM



The bible told me of God and Gods love and I know it to be true.


I rest my case



thank goodness


next time just admit the truth earlier

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Mon 01/04/10 01:46 PM




The bible told me of God and Gods love and I know it to be true.


I rest my case



thank goodness


next time just admit the truth earlier


ditto

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Mon 01/04/10 01:52 PM





The bible told me of God and Gods love and I know it to be true.


I rest my case



thank goodness


next time just admit the truth earlier


ditto


this you know
for the bible tells you so


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Mon 01/04/10 02:14 PM


I feel for you,,if my mom were mute and never spoke the words to me, I would know she loved me, I dont need a voice to know what I know, I just need to observe and have faith.


MsHarmony..what you feel may be Gas ...also your mom can write or use sign language to get her point across ....so do tell...just admit that you hear voices and that is how you know that God loves people


Many people find that when they work on silencing their mind, and opening their heart, that they experience a wellspring of love which seems to arise from within, and yet seems to 'originate from other than oneself'. Therefore, many people have a personal experiential basis (not evidence, mind you, but a kind of basis nonetheless) for believing that "God loves them" - through prayer and devotion, they experience love which seems to arise from a mysterious source.

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Mon 01/04/10 02:18 PM
Hey, folks, we're getting some feedback from people who have indicated that this thread might be going a little "out of bounds" insofar as personal remarks, etc., are concerned.

Remember, the intention is to discuss the message, not the messenger(s).

Just a little reminder from your Friendly Neighborhood Moderation Crew....!

shades

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Mon 01/04/10 02:23 PM


I feel for you,,if my mom were mute and never spoke the words to me, I would know she loved me, I dont need a voice to know what I know, I just need to observe and have faith.


MsHarmony..what you feel may be Gas ...also your mom can write or use sign language to get her point across ....so do tell...just admit that you hear voices and that is how you know that God loves people


very interesting here, you say her mom can write it down that she loves her and you expect her to believe her mom, but God wrote down that he loves you and you don't believe it, so my suggestion would be to listen to your own words and do as such.

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Mon 01/04/10 02:26 PM



I feel for you,,if my mom were mute and never spoke the words to me, I would know she loved me, I dont need a voice to know what I know, I just need to observe and have faith.


MsHarmony..what you feel may be Gas ...also your mom can write or use sign language to get her point across ....so do tell...just admit that you hear voices and that is how you know that God loves people


very interesting here, you say her mom can write it down that she loves her and you expect her to believe her mom, but God wrote down that he loves you and you don't believe it, so my suggestion would be to listen to your own words and do as such.


God didn't write the bible

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Mon 01/04/10 02:48 PM
Edited by massagetrade on Mon 01/04/10 02:49 PM
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Mon 01/04/10 04:25 PM



I feel for you,,if my mom were mute and never spoke the words to me, I would know she loved me, I dont need a voice to know what I know, I just need to observe and have faith.


MsHarmony..what you feel may be Gas ...also your mom can write or use sign language to get her point across ....so do tell...just admit that you hear voices and that is how you know that God loves people


Many people find that when they work on silencing their mind, and opening their heart, that they experience a wellspring of love which seems to arise from within, and yet seems to 'originate from other than oneself'. Therefore, many people have a personal experiential basis (not evidence, mind you, but a kind of basis nonetheless) for believing that "God loves them" - through prayer and devotion, they experience love which seems to arise from a mysterious source.


Pfft, they "feel the love"?...so that justifies their being the main reason this planet cannot live in peace and without ignorances?...yeah ok.

So far in this "war on terror" (sponsored by the Christian god people) has killed a million Muslims...I guess to them it's in the name of love eh?...yeah ok.

"We are all proud that through God's powerful aid, we have become once more true Germans" - Adolf Hitler

Might as well have been the Dippic except with "True Americans" instead of "true Germans".

Yeah ok...




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