that made me laugh! you are so right!

SMART REMARKS ARE NOT A SIGN OF RIGHT!

I AM WILLING TO WAIT AND SEE.

Neither is ignoring points others have brought up, and "shouting" online..

So, again :Since Jesus (supposedly) came and went, EVERY generation of Christians have thought that they were in the end times, and that his return was soon..

So far EVERY generation has been wrong. I can't wait to here why it's different this time.

shouting online? Perhaps....just perhaps! The caps was pushed by mistake and a person did not bother to retype it....?

Some things need to be ignored since the subject is so far out of tilt as to never be able to correct the errors. Therefore pointless and creates fuel for a foolish fire.

As to the end times. Many misguided calling themselves Christian have tried to see the end times. The Bible lays out the frame of its coming. Those who can hear....hear! A day is as a thouand years and a thousand years as a day. Those who are his will understand, to all others it is foolishness.

Revelation is a revealing by Christ to those that are his of things to come about and events to it. Most Christians have made a God and a Gospel of their own creation....therefore error far from the truth. They made a new Sabbath and by it are blind to the Sabbath of the later days end and what latter day we are in.

To those who desire you now have a key to understanding. Correct the time of the Death of our Pascal Lamb and you will know much as to the later days. A thousand years are as a day.....Let them hear!!!

1. A day is a day, a thousand years is a thousand years. There is no changing the definition just because of who is talking.

2. Jesus is credited with saying that the current generation (as in, the generation living when he was supposedly living) would not pass before his return. (Matthew 24:34, Mark 13:30, and Luke 21:32)

You error in understanding on both subjects.....try again!

I'm not the one always trying to change the rules so I'm always "right". It's you who needs to try again.

As I saw it this was close to a direct quote, with citations included. Where is the misunderstanding?

Truly.

Matthew, Mark, and Luke, are all quite clear on this one. So the whole religion is utterly absurd in this day and age. Anyone who is still waiting for Jesus to come back missed the boat!

The only way that Christianity can have any meaning at all today is if the Christians totally renounce and reject the very scripture that they worship:


Matt.24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

Mark.13:30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.

Luke.21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.


All of these men were supposedly "quoting" what Jesus supposedly had said verbally to the crowds that he was preaching to.

Therefore anyone who gives these scriptures any merit at all, has no choice but to conclude that Jesus KEPT HIS WORD.

The only possible conclusion at this point is that the rapture had indeed taken place way back during that generation. Jesus came back, took the souls he was interested in, and left the rejects behind. This can only mean that if we are to give this story any merit at all, we must conclude that we are the descendents of the rejects.

Waiting around for Jesus to come back now would be insane, because JESUS PROMISED the people he was actually speaking to that everything he told them would come to pass within THEIR generation.

So Christians today are up the creek without a paddle. Even if their religion is true, it's far too late to do anything about it now. We're way to far removed from the generation that Jesus has made promises to. He clearly didn't make ANY Promises to our generation.

Christianity is a dead religion by it's very own mythology. It's been proclaimed to be worthless at this point in time even by Jesus himself according to scripture. The only way to save it is to call Jesus a liar, or reject the gospels as having been mistaken. Either way doesn't do much toward salvaging the religion. It's a done deal. It's a dead mythology by its very own proclamation.

There the direct one's are! Oh how can a person discount those? Seems pretty direct to me. But somehow someone will claim that these 16-17 word sentences are being interpreted wrong somehow.

The funny thing is, I think they are interpreted correctly, they're just used incorrectly as a form of denial. For his statement to be true, it would make Jesus a hypocrite. He said that no one would know when, so why would he tell them when???


After telling a list of events that were yet to happen, Jesus said this...

Luke.21:28-33
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

29 And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees;

30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.

31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.

32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.


In case you don't understand the "context" of the passage, he was speaking of that (this*) generation of people that are alive when all those things come to pass

Are you claiming to know when then end will be?

Nice try to trap!

No! No man knows the day or hour....but the general time has been told to us. and that generation shall not pass away until all be fulfilled.

People do not know there own language. Christ was speaking of a time and a generation during this(that/this)time of those events. (not meaning now but this/that time spoken of). Use a Strong's.

Another one people mess up..."There will be earthquakes in divers places." Looking in the Strong's you will find the word means. (KJ, old English, 1611 remember!). DIVERS = different, modern word DIVERSE. NOT THAT THERE WILL BE EARTH QUAKES WHERE PEOPLE GO DIVING.

The word "DURST" people will read in their mind meaning "DID NOT." But the word meanS "BOLDLY"

Ask people what the ten commandments were written upon (on....not on up high). They will commonly say stone tablets......have them read the sripture saying what they were written upon over and over until they stop reading it tablets and see it says "TABLES"
Tables are a smooth large flat surface......not coffee table, dinnette table, or bedside tables.....and size varies too. Tablets are TABLE-TTES, LIKE CIGER-ETTES ARE SMALL CIGAR LIKE.
TABLETS WERE SMALL PEICES OF JEWELRY ON BRACLETS OR CHAINS. (NO shouting because of all caps, but for the purpose of commanding attention.)

This is why people looking for errors find them, due to their lack of understanding that being said. But with seeking the correct meaning right or wrong....they will find a greater truth than those claiming to be scholars.

I tried to prove all things. I tried to prove all things wrong, but could not but found a greater truth.....finding meat and no longer milk.....finding solid gold...no longer just the shiney things.

I do not claim to have knowledge....but I see many with less than I...even those held esteemed in my town to have knowledge.....they do error for the same reasons as those who do not believe. I stay away from those fanatics. It is those types who killed the prophets and Christ.

For those who desire....use a Strong's to find the use of words that clear up much confusion of understanding the true.

If those claiming God are grossly in error of understanding....those of non belief are of a lesser offence to God than they. This is antichrist that worked from the beginning which drove out the apostles of Christ.

In the end times it will be Christians who will thinking they do Gods will, that will kill Gods people! Hear! and read with understanding. Come out of her teaching and believe the Gospel of Christ and no longer those of men.

I restrain (not soon enough) at this point. Peace!

There is at work a week, a week like unto Passover.

This week, note the true time of Christ death (Wedsday afternoon before the high Sabbath....not Friday afternoon before the weekly Sabbath) He was three days and three nights in the heart of the Earth (hell/grave).
He was our Pascal Lamb sacrifice. The weekly is from sundown Friday until sunset Saturday....not the antichrist teaching of Sunday.

A day is as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day. There is a seven thousand year week made up of seven thousand year days. As in Passover (not Easter...a pagan goddess worship with a Christian facade).....The lamb was killed Wedsday. There has been about two thousand years from that sacrifice....placing us in the preperation day before the thousand year Sabbath of Christ rein. It is at hand in most of our lifetimes. We are in that time and the DAY of the Lord comes...but first the times in Revelation must take place. At the time of Christ living he spoke of the latter days of that week I speak....we are close to the end of days of the week I speak of. The ends of days DOES NOT MEAN Earth days will stop (24 hour days). It is the last of the seven thousand year time period of that week that I speak of. latter days, end of days, last day, Lords Day (rein) are all of that week I speak. We are in the sixth day from Adam and two days from the Lamb sacrifice.....we are at Friday afternoon late in the day........then the times revealed.....then the Sabbath rein of our Lord. The evening and the morning were the first day.....days start at evening and end the next evening....not by the time keeper of man.

There is much to know before true knowledge can begin.

Shake off the teachings of antichrist(against Christ) and prove all things. I share but am not a teacher...I am learning. Many things were opened to me and then I found others who are of the same understanding.....all proving thier understandings. They do have free booklets if any desire....never asked for anything or contacted. They will give freely without the ways of others.

Please do not miss my two post above!

Christ said that only the Father knows the day and hour.

This is my own understanding and it does not hinder the Gospel.

The Father, I believe has not set a time such as Wedsday, 23, 2034 at 3:15:04 e.s.t. as the mark to say....GO!

I believe it is saying that the Father makes the decision as to when it becomes nessary to take action.

If it was a set time...why could Christ not know...I think he could keep a secret.

When conditions get to a certain point The Father will by his wise judgement call for action. Like a commander in the field only knows the day and hour to attack by conditions at hand.

So only the Father knows the right time to stop mankind before we destroy ourselves by our actions.....it could be the killing of all whales, it could be the lauching of the 3rd Atomic missle, it could be at a certain level of polution, or a certain state of war.

He in his knowledge will know the right time to stop us.....only he by judgement will know the day and hour to take action as God to take control in spite of us. Because we don't know a thing about what we are truly doing.....we just need to learn that....and will!!!

"Wise men learn at the beginning and fools will learn in the end." and what fools we are!!!!

Wow, lookie! A linguistics 101 lesson, how quaint! Now that you have that bit of (to use a bible thumper term- "Holier than thou") info out of your system, perhaps you could answer the question. I gave you my point of view based on experience, what is yours based on? Visions? Hearsay? A bad drug trip? Jesus' image carved in an avocado? Honestly, I would like to know.

In context, the lesson as you put it was not a lesson. It was an example of how people do not understand based on their lack of proper word use. It was done for their enlightenment not condemnation or being Holier than thou. if I were being Holier than thou, it would call for a judgement or condemdation of them. The only one I in any way condemed is those who teach false doctrine and a false Gospel. My views are based on the Bible itself. They teach that when a man dies he goes directly to Heaven. If that is so then the resurrection is a lie. They teach man has an immortal soul, If this is so then God can not give them as a free give upon resurrection immortality. They make God a liar by their teachings and teach against Christ blindly. All of this is not being Holier than thou, only placing a mirror for their better. I have never claimed to be better....we are all sinners and need the grace of God.

You have a bitterness toward me. I have none toward you even thou you attack me directly. Is the bitterness really toward me or is it of others who may deserve it you attack and I am the scape goat to pile thier sin against you upon. I have not attacked you even in this post my friend. You would find I am against those types myself.
They do great harm in Gods name but not by his command. Forgive them they are blinded and the human in them is foremost with all the flaws. Let there be peace between us and to those who seek truth and God.......learning!

Why would anyone feel the need to have "God" proven or dis-proven...
not sure why it matters. What "God" is to one person, can be completely different to another.

God can be the old, white bearded man in the clouds with a lap top keeping track of all our sins and zapping us with punishment...kinda like a cattle pod. God can be a warm fuzzy, God can be a feeling of love in your heart, God can be what your feeling when you do something you probably shouldn't have...like a conscious, God can be the motivator to help you make good decisions, God can be the feeling of peacefulness during and after meditation, God can be the feeling of oneness with nature while hiking the mountains...

One thing we should all agree on regardless of our belief as to what "God" actually is....is that the way we treat people, respect others and show caring and tolerance is ultimately what's going to matter in the end. So all the bickering over God seems to be pointless.

A wise man once said.."Do you want to be right or do you want to be happy? The way to find peace is to let go of the need to always be right." I've found over time that there is a fair amount of truth in that statement.

Peace

And an answer was given, you have missed it in your preoccupation with attacking I am sure. I also find many persons skim words of length and unknown subject in a hurry to be heard....right or wrong about that which was barely understood. It is a common event and error of the human ego! No implication toward you...only you know that for sure. But once again, the answer was given.