You have the bigger than thou art syndrom too huh??? LOL

You didn't seriously think those two would admit Obama was doing well did you? Even if it was clear to them they wouldn't admit it, they are too invested in his failing than anything else.

You didn't seriously think those two would admit Obama was doing well did you? Even if it was clear to them they wouldn't admit it, they are too invested in his failing than anything else.

I cannot see much truth in this. Are you listening to propaganda?

What do you call propaganda?

Frankly, what you see is not important. What the electorate see and what most intelligent people (like the NY Times Herbert) see IS important. Like he said, an unemployed electorate is an unhappy electorate.

http://www.propublica.org/ion/stimulus/item/just-12-percent-of-stimulus-money-has-been-spent-805

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/06/opinion/06herbert.html

The Obama administration seems hamstrung by the unemployment crisis. No big ideas have emerged. No dramatically creative initiatives. While devoting enormous amounts of energy to health care, and trying now to decide what to do about Afghanistan, the president has not even conveyed the sense of urgency that the crisis in employment warrants.

If that does not change, these staggering levels of joblessness have the potential to cripple not just the well-being of millions of American families, but any real prospects for sustained economic recovery and the political prospects of the president as well. An unemployed electorate is an unhappy electorate.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/08/national/main5070907.shtml?source=related_story

Mr. Obama initially offered his stimulus plan as a way to put people back to work, a promise that 3.5 million jobs would be saved or created. The administration's predictions that unemployment would rise no higher than 8 percent already have been shattered, leaving Mr. Obama's advisers to caution that job growth takes time, even as recovery spending intensifies.

http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/

President Barack Obama has repeatedly claimed that his budget would cut the deficit by half by the end of his term. But as Heritage analyst Brian Riedl has pointed out, given that Obama has already helped quadruple the deficit with his stimulus package, pledging to halve it by 2013 is hardly ambitious. The Washington Post has a great graphic which helps put President Obama’s budget deficits in context of President Bush’s.

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Overall, President Obama’s budget would add twice as much debt as President Bush over the same number of years.


http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/money/21264624/detail.html

Although the Department of Public Welfare's budget fell only 1.7 percent, a relatively modest cut, it soaked up $1.7 billion in federal stimulus money, creating the potential for a massive shortfall once that money goes away in less than two years.

Umm, what happens in 12 and a half months? Wont his legacy not truly be apparent until he has SERVED his term? OR am I missing something?

In 12 1/2 months, the idea is that the electorate is going to vote out the Democratic majority.

Hence, Obama will be able to get nothing passed that he wants done. The Republicans will take the majority and stifle his efforts.

It's one of the reasons the Democrats are going to shove one of the health care " reform " bills down our throats whether or not the majority of Americans actually want it.

In 12 1/2 months, the idea is that the electorate is going to vote out the Democratic majority.

Hence, Obama will be able to get nothing passed that he wants done. The Republicans will take the majority and stifle his efforts.

It's one of the reasons the Democrats are going to shove one of the health care " reform " bills down our throats whether or not the majority of Americans actually want it.

That is wishful thinking.

People are not over what Bush has done to this country yet.

I know with the recession they really ought to be pissed right now.

Umm, what happens in 12 and a half months? Wont his legacy not truly be apparent until he has SERVED his term? OR am I missing something?

In February Obama claimed unemployment would not rise above 8%. He claimed it would offer immediate economic relief and we know the economy continues to sink. The high priced stimulus (paid by taxpayers) resulted in higher unemployment because it did not address the problem. The amount of tax money the government collects is in decline and most people are not sure of recovery. That's what is hurting us now. The GDP declined. Hell, most companies are tightening the belt with hiring, wage increase freezes and laying off employees.
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mm,, none of that is true,,,obama didnt make any absolute statements of that nature. As I said, there is no clear evidence to me that OBama is the cause of where we are now, I will give him his tenure and more than 8 months to undo 8 years of fiasco....then I can have some more reasonable correlations to draw about cause and affect where OBama and our economy, healthcare, education, safety,,etc,,, are concerned

Funny isnt it, Bush blamed 911 on Clinton, after all he was only in office 9 months or so and the (dumbed down) bought it hook line and sinker. Obama is in office less than a year and is being blamed for the wreckage of the Bush years.

Yes, I should have added Obama "administration." My bad. To me Obama and Obama administration are the same but I'll not quibble on this one. You would give him 8 years but my point was it is unlikely the electorate will. And keep in mind Dems controlled Congress the last 2 years of the Bush administration. Like I said, Dems may hope blaming Bush will save them but I doubt it. People are tired of finger pointing and want action because they are hurting. Most intelligent people predict the electorate will turn against Democrats.

Again, the rush to defend with so called clear evidence Obama is not the cause of where we are now...learn to read. That is not in my post. The point is the stimulus package WAS sold as immediate relief dear. When you whine untrue it is Obama's words you attack, not my own:

But we need action - and action now. That is why I have asked my economic team to develop an economic recovery plan for both Wall Street and Main Street that will help save or create at least two and a half million jobs, while rebuilding our infrastructure, improving our schools, reducing our dependence on oil, and saving billions of dollars
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12/06/transcript-president-elect-obamas-radio-address/

That is why I have moved quickly to work with my economic team and leaders of both parties on an American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan that will immediately jumpstart job creation and long-term growth.

Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/08/obama-economic-speech-war_n_156171.html


The assessment was the same as what Obama’s economists forecast in January, when THEY PREDICTED THAT THE ECONOMIC STIMULUS WOULD PREVENT UNEMPLOYMENT FROM RISING ABOVE 8 PERCENT. But unemployment reached 8.9 percent in April and the chairwoman of the Council of Economic Advisers, Christina Romer, said over the weekend that current predictions that unemployment would reach 9.5 percent were “pretty realistic.”

http://blog.taragana.com/n/white-house-defends-estimate-that-stimulus-bill-will-save-or-create-35-million-jobs-59484/

It is true the GDP declined: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-gdp-revised-decline-62-fourth

It is true the amount of tax money government collects is in decline.
http://zerohedge.blogspot.com/2009/05/guest-post-tax-revenues-tanking.html

And so on, and so on....

Since the economic stimulus bill passed nearly six months ago, the Obama administration has repeatedly pledged that the money would reach middle America, seeping into the communities hardest hit by the recession.

But analysis of the most comprehensive list of stimulus spending to date found no relationship between where the money is going and unemployment and poverty.
http://www.propublica.org/ion/stimulus/item/stimulus-spending-fails-to-follow-unemployment-poverty-805

LOL! Got to love Biden:

Vice President Joe Biden told ABC's "This Week" that the Obama team had "misread" how bad the economy was when it took office. Obama rebuttled Biden's comments in a separate NBC interview, saying "rather than saying 'misread,' we had incomplete information."

http://www.axcessnews.com/index.php/articles/show/id/18354


Also, keep in mind Americans already tossed Republicans out when they voted in Democrats. Two years during the Bush administration and now we have a Democrat majority/Democrat President. Again, I doubt the blame Bush game will fly. Dems who love calling the majority of America DUMB may have a rude awakening.




I mis copied earlier and was refuting the first sentence only

"In February Obama claimed unemployment would not rise above 8%. He claimed it would offer immediate economic relief and we know the economy continues to sink. The high priced stimulus (paid by taxpayers) resulted in higher unemployment because it did not address the problem."


I still hold my opinion. OBAMA never made any absolute claims about the 8 percent. He is an intelligent man but no economist and wouldnt put a claim like that out there. Though he might share what his economists (people you would think know how to read the economy) have shared with him. His economists are not him and their mistakes are not on his shoulders either. AS to the rest, I still do not believe it is evident that this administrations actions lead to where we are now. That the actions havent WORKED quickly enough is not enough to hang the effort out to dry,, in my book.

Umm, what happens in 12 and a half months? Wont his legacy not truly be apparent until he has SERVED his term? OR am I missing something?

the mid-term elections...it's the first chance for the country...to take their tea partys and town hall meetings to the voting booth...

We all know dems take better care of people than repubs do. I expect all the unemployed and underemployed to vote just to get medical insurance but hey good luck with that. Who are you going to vote for the guy who is trying to get you health care or the guy who says "sorry about your luck?"

the guy who stays the hell outta my life...