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Topic: The Dumbing of America
Giocamo Joined Tue 08/19/08 Posts: 3297	Mon 10/19/09 05:38 PM
Umm, what happens in 12 and a half months? Wont his legacy not truly be apparent until he has SERVED his term? OR am I missing something? the mid-term elections...it's the first chance for the country...to take their tea partys and town hall meetings to the voting booth... We all know dems take better care of people than repubs do. I expect all the unemployed and underemployed to vote just to get medical insurance but hey good luck with that. Who are you going to vote for the guy who is trying to get you health care or the guy who says "sorry about your luck?" the guy who stays the hell outta my life... Bush has admitted to authorizing the NSA, a secretive spy agency, to conduct warrantless wire taps on American citizens. The spying even extends to postal mail. The NSA has also been collecting phone records in an attempt to build a database of every phone call that is made. 2003 - Mark Klein, a retired AT&T communications technician, submitted an affidavit in support of the Electronic Fronteir Foundation's FF's lawsuit against AT&T. He testified that in 2003 he connected a "splitter" that sent a copy of Internet traffic and phone calls to a secure room that was operated by the NSA in the San Francisco office of AT&T. He heard from a co-worker that similar rooms were being constructed in other cities, including Seattle, San Jose, Los Angeles and San Diego. From "Whistle-Blower Outs NSA Spy Room", Wired News, 4/7/06 [Wired] [EFF Case] 12/15/05 - The New York Times reveals that "Months after the Sept. 11 attacks, President Bush secretly authorized the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on Americans and others inside the United States to search for evidence of terrorist activity without the court-approved warrants ordinarily required for domestic spying, according to government officials." The Bush wiretaps violated US law because he was required to get approval from FISA. He can start a wiretap of a suspected terrorist at any time but must then seek approval to continue within 72 hours. http://www.impeachbush.tv/args/wiretaps.html and I totally disagreed with this...but...you must admit...Obama has taken goverenment intrusion to whole nother level...by the way...is anybody listening to Obama anymore...the presidency has sure lost it's specialness...it's luster...I can remember when it was a big deal for the President to give a speech...now...you can't this guy off of the tube...

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Mon 10/19/09 09:15 PM
The majority is not opposing Obama so you are wrong there. you must being living in a dream world...this guy is in trouble...as of this night...right now...he is without a doubt...the worse president in this countries history...and that includes Jimmy Carter...there are more Americans scratching there heads...saying..." this is NOT the change I voted for "...he is history !!! You have the bigger than thou art syndrom too huh??? LOL You didn't seriously think those two would admit Obama was doing well did you? Even if it was clear to them they wouldn't admit it, they are too invested in his failing than anything else. don't you talk to everyday people ?...he's pretty much a laughing stock...oh well...only 12 1/2 more months...we will see...remember...I'm from Chicago...and this guys downfall will be Axelrod and Emanuel...the 2 wise men...they are scum...I've seen there act for 20+ years... Nobody that I know thinks that he is a laughing stock.

heavenlyboy34 Joined Fri 07/04/08 Posts: 17348	Mon 10/19/09 09:25 PM Edited by heavenlyboy34 on Mon 10/19/09 09:31 PM
You are precisely mistaken. F. Hayek won a nobel prize for demonstrating this. The free market has always been better at providing for individual interests (this is why the government always seeks to exploit private industry through regulation and taxation). You also confuse "business" with the government-created entity, the "corporation". The history of economics shows that the best system for the average person is laissez-faire capitalism. You will have to read a book on this, since it has not been practiced in America for more than 100 years. You also ignore the fact that government is the largest polluter/waster, according to THEIR OWN STATISTICS (see the CBO and EPA reports) and that industry cleans up its own messes more efficiently than government ever has. What I've done/haven't, my economic status, etc. done are irrelevant to the discussion. FYI, I have been in several different economic brackets from very poor and sick to relatively affluent, and none of that changes economic reality. --------------------------------------------------------- Huh? do you think the free market will look after your interests? historicly it has been proven time after time that they will bend you over a barrel and rape you of every last nickle while poisoning the water and air. They will work your children to death and forclose on your home. The only protection little people have from big buisiness is a government of the people for the people. Please take of your rose colored glasses. I have to wonder if you life in the same world I do. Do you have kids to worry about? a future retirenment? are you rich or poor? Do you live on your own or in your moms basement? Do you own a home or even pay taxes? I look forward to your answers when Icome in from my next woodcutting break.