Topic: I might as well.
Gossipmpm's photo
Thu 10/08/09 11:51 AM
Not meaning at all to be funny or sarcastic

But you are someone who could really benifit from talking to Lex

I bet he could really help you out



MelodyGirl's photo
Thu 10/08/09 12:18 PM
Edited by MelodyGirl on Thu 10/08/09 12:19 PM

I choose to sound angry when people give me advice I already understand. When I was younger I was very polite and just let everyone think that they were being helpful but I realized that wasn't really useful to either of us and decided to try to be more honest.

I've got possibly the worst track record of "stop trying so hard and it will just happen" possible and I can say that because I have not tried at all until starting one year ago. A variety of things I'm well aware of have made me prone to social anxiety so meeting entirely random people never happens for me, ever. The only way I ever made friends in the first place was being introduced by other people I knew but right at this point in my life my social circles have dead ended.


Now, I'm not asking people to tell me who I am. I'm asking how to say it in a good way.

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I live in Utah so I am perpetually bored. I know this is not a good way to advertise myself.
The boredom is well enough justified if you know what Utah is like. There is really very little to do so if you don't feel like playing basketball, going to the same pool every day, or walking around parks (and apparently nobody attractive likes parks in this state,) then you do things at home.
When I got bored I found weird Japanese media to consume but as we're all aware mentioning those at the forefront of who you are basically says "I'm nobody."

This isn't a big problem because I am a lot more than that but I can't think of how to describe it.
I'm smart. Not in the pocket protector and don't know how to talk sense- I've got a great sense of the timing needed to be a good comedian and I've got a strong memory so once I know what someone will laugh at I am enormously entertaining to be around.'

I'm not a clown though. I am very much an intellectual but I make people laugh and try to talk smoothly because I'm not "too smart" to function socially. Am I a dork? Yes, but only to the same degree as whoever I'm talking to.

I'm artistic and creative. I've got impressive control over fine movements of my hands and a knack for design. I'm always finding new ways to express that and the things I put on paper are dwarfed by the mountain of ideas I've fleshed out well enough in my head that I could put them on paper.

I'm opinionated. I make up my mind about current issues quickly but unlike a lot of people I can support my opinion and I'm actually open minded enough that a well thought out argument can sway me.

But I'm not only good at mental types of activity. I'm a natural skier, though not very skilled because my mother was a spoiled sport and never wanted to go when I was younger. I'm good enough at sprinting to catch animals when the rest of my family have decided that running after them would be a futile effort and my legs also have the endurance for hiking. My high pain tolerance probably plays into that sort of thing because I get tired like anyone else but the distance between tired and exhausted looks to be much greater for me.

So I'm asking you not to say these things about me but how to say them about myself (or to give me any guidelines for how to take more pictures of myself without just taking the same picture 9 times.) Can I just copy and paste most of this into my profile or should I rephrase it? Is there something I can do so that people won't read it as anger but instead as enthusiasm? Are there other things I should talk about? Is my writing style too challenging for most people's reading level? Is this too much information?


I know I tend to be long-winded myself, but my brain went numb reading your post. slaphead

Don't bore your potential dates to death! winking :laughing:

No one can describe you but you. As SingMeSweet said, people will perceive you in their own way based on your profile. If your profile is dry, without personality, and flat then it IS what it IS.

Relax; lighten up and have fun though! Stop over analyzing -- it's getting annoying. :thumbsup:


prisoner's photo
Thu 10/08/09 12:57 PM
rofl annoying. be seeing you

Gossipmpm's photo
Thu 10/08/09 02:56 PM

rofl annoying. be seeing you

bigsmile



Shoku's photo
Thu 10/08/09 05:22 PM
I know I tend to be long-winded myself, but my brain went numb reading your post. slaphead

Don't bore your potential dates to death! winking :laughing:

No one can describe you but you. As SingMeSweet said, people will perceive you in their own way based on your profile. If your profile is dry, without personality, and flat then it IS what it IS.

Relax; lighten up and have fun though! Stop over analyzing -- it's getting annoying. :thumbsup:


That is the only way I will describe me if people don't set down some guidelines.

Here's what almost all of what I'm reading sounds like to me:
Write a good profile.
How?
Write a good profile.

I'm going into all of this detail about what I'm asking for because every time I ask "How?" people keep not telling me how so I think you might understand if I talk slowly, clearly, and without anything left out.


So it's too much text. Is what's actually in my profile now enough? Should I swap things out?
I've already had the commentary that my writing went negative in some of what's there so there must be something I could do better.

-IS- my profile dry flat and lacking personality?


I'll relax when I think I have accomplished something. I'm not actually as stressed as I'm making myself sound but this is still frustrating.

MelodyGirl's photo
Thu 10/08/09 05:49 PM
Edited by MelodyGirl on Thu 10/08/09 05:50 PM
My ORIGINAL reply to you:


Hi flowerforyou

You should add more pix. :thumbsup:

Your essay is ok but I would add a little panache so it's not so perfunctory. If you are that straight forward and dry, by all means, don't change who you are; however, if you can cause a smile or a giggle for the reader you might have more luck. Definitely add more to your essay though. winking

I'd say about 20% reply rate is average. I've been on the site since January and only went on 3 dates. I don’t know if the lack of success is due to apathy, laziness, or online gigolos trying to play the field. I find that suggestion entertaining though. How pleasuring can an online harem of girls be? Sticky keyboard anyone? :laughing: ill

To follow the crowd, it takes time.

Have fun! :banana:



You asked:
"-IS- my profile dry flat and lacking personality?"


I said in my first reply to you "YES it is" and aside from my advice you have 3 pages of advice.

You are acting like a 12 year old that wants someone else to write his homework essay. Pull up your big boy pants and write something else -- other than what you have -- using some of the advice within this thread and see if that is better.

You are treading in the same vortex without initiating a change. Just do it! slaphead whoa

How?? Read other profiles; read other threads in this topic offering advice on a better profile; research; trial and error!

When you were in school, did you pay someone to do your homework or did you bug the hell out of your teachers like you are here -- and asking for the answers to be given to you? Just do it!!! :laughing: tears

My comments are in total frustration but also meant with all due respect. We tossed you the life jacket but you have to swim to the boat yourself.

Shoku's photo
Thu 10/08/09 06:25 PM

My ORIGINAL reply to you:


Hi flowerforyou

You should add more pix. :thumbsup:

Your essay is ok but I would add a little panache so it's not so perfunctory. If you are that straight forward and dry, by all means, don't change who you are; however, if you can cause a smile or a giggle for the reader you might have more luck. Definitely add more to your essay though. winking

I'd say about 20% reply rate is average. I've been on the site since January and only went on 3 dates. I don’t know if the lack of success is due to apathy, laziness, or online gigolos trying to play the field. I find that suggestion entertaining though. How pleasuring can an online harem of girls be? Sticky keyboard anyone? :laughing: ill

To follow the crowd, it takes time.

Have fun! :banana:



You asked:
"-IS- my profile dry flat and lacking personality?"


I said in my first reply to you "YES it is" and aside from my advice you have 3 pages of advice.

You are acting like a 12 year old that wants someone else to write his homework essay. Pull up your big boy pants and write something else -- other than what you have -- using some of the advice within this thread and see if that is better.

You are treading in the same vortex without initiating a change. Just do it! slaphead whoa

How?? Read other profiles; read other threads in this topic offering advice on a better profile; research; trial and error!

When you were in school, did you pay someone to do your homework or did you bug the hell out of your teachers like you are here -- and asking for the answers to be given to you? Just do it!!! :laughing: tears

My comments are in total frustration but also meant with all due respect. We tossed you the life jacket but you have to swim to the boat yourself.
This is exactly what's frustrating me. Would you like to count how many times I've said "I don't want you to write it for me"? The count in my head is getting high enough that I don't think people should be saying this to me.

This would be like if the teacher was telling students "write down when train A and train B meet" without having ever given the lecture about how to do the algebra that story problem is based on.


Do you realize that I have been rewriting my profile as this goes along? I haven't heard any mention of the sarcastic move I made in the interests field and I have got no idea if it's appropriate to keep that in there.

Now with the "put up more pictures" comment I'll readily do that just as soon as somebody tells me what counts as more pictures.
This sounds like a really stupid thing to ask because you know that I am not going to submit the exact same file seven times but right now to me every picture I can imagine is exactly the same picture. I really don't know what makes those different.

Ok fine, I can't pick out of infinity and it's clear that people here can't either so I'll make a mechanical list and somebody please tell me which things on it make a picture different enough.

Distance from the camera.
Light level.
Direction I'm facing.
A scarf.
The background.
The back of my head or otherwise not showing my face.
My hands being in the picture.
My feet being in the picture.
Holding a pencil or other object.
Covering up parts of my face.
Holding a cat.
Kissing a dog on the lips.
Facial hair.
Being wet from a shower.
Brushing my teeth or other actions that are remotely capturable with me being the photographer.
The relative absence of tone on my abdomen or the hair on my appendages.


Are there terribly obvious things I'm not listing?
Ok, I put some freebies in there so I understand a little but the majority of it is genuine. "More pictures" is really useless to me because I would have had at least three up if I could determine this on my own.

I'm glad are giving me advice but the total lack of anyone ever talking to me when I ask "what do you mean by that?" ruins it all for me. I've already said it but it needs repeating: I don't have the common sense to make this work. That is what I am so frantically asking people for, not for them to do everything for me.

Gossipmpm's photo
Thu 10/08/09 06:30 PM
My advice and humble opinion:

Please listen carefully to what they tell you and if your really intrested in their advice
Do it!!

They gave good advice. They are intelligent people

Melody has really said all anyone can say to you

Now run with it or no one will WANT to chat with you

All my best to you:heart:

Shoku's photo
Thu 10/08/09 06:59 PM

My advice and humble opinion:

Please listen carefully to what they tell you and if your really intrested in their advice
Do it!!

They gave good advice. They are intelligent people

Melody has really said all anyone can say to you

Now run with it or no one will WANT to chat with you

All my best to you:heart:

-_-

It's good advice because you didn't need it.

...

I'd benefit from talking to lex? What do you mean by that?

Ruth34611's photo
Thu 10/08/09 07:31 PM
Your profile is actually very good. I'm not sure how different it is from when you started this thread a few days ago. But, I just now looked at it and it's very good.

The honest truth is that you're not likely to meet anyone on the internet. Yes, there is a small percentage of people that do, but most don't. And, I don't know why people sign up for a dating site and then never email or respond to emails. It happens all the time to all of us here. frown

Shoku's photo
Thu 10/08/09 08:11 PM
Edited by Shoku on Thu 10/08/09 08:12 PM

Your profile is actually very good. I'm not sure how different it is from when you started this thread a few days ago. But, I just now looked at it and it's very good.

The honest truth is that you're not likely to meet anyone on the internet. Yes, there is a small percentage of people that do, but most don't. And, I don't know why people sign up for a dating site and then never email or respond to emails. It happens all the time to all of us here. frown

So you didn't think that the way I blamed teachers for screwing up my education would be a turn off?

Thank you for giving me your opinion though. If you scan the first page of this you can find people referring to what I had before, and it was shorter so that's really all there is.

But now I'm going to undo most of that thank you by complaining about how you couldn't at least say yes/no/not sure about the items on the pictures list :(

Ruth34611's photo
Thu 10/08/09 08:40 PM

But now I'm going to undo most of that thank you by complaining about how you couldn't at least say yes/no/not sure about the items on the pictures list :(


I think your pictures are fine. I only have a couple of pictures myself. But, then again, I don't try very hard in using this as a dating site. So, maybe you could have a few more as time goes by. Don't worry about what they are, just take some random shots at different locations. Over time. You don't have to get a bunch up right away. The ones you are have are good.

randyrobinett's photo
Thu 10/08/09 09:11 PM
hi...i am brand new to this dating thing but what i am gathering is your profile could be great but the wrong girl will ignore it...it could be horrible but the right girl will love it...

no photo
Thu 10/08/09 09:35 PM
Edited by singmesweet on Thu 10/08/09 09:35 PM

I choose to sound angry when people give me advice I already understand. When I was younger I was very polite and just let everyone think that they were being helpful but I realized that wasn't really useful to either of us and decided to try to be more honest.



Why get angry at all? You asked for advice. That does not mean you'll always get advice you want to use. Just say thanks and take whatever advice you think will work for you. If you're going to get angry, you might be better off not asking for advice to begin with.

Shoku's photo
Thu 10/08/09 09:40 PM
Oh, I forgot to mention that I understand why people don't respond. Just like a lot of people ruin everyone else's reputation by ruthlessly seeking out internet nookie there are a lot of people who are just crazy sending out messages. Well not that kind of crazy-

What I'm saying is that in being polite and turning people down there is occasionally a re-reply that is basically distilled hatred.
I know, how dare anyone reject you after you went to all the trouble of writing a message or copying a pasting one to them?

I consider myself polite so I respond to everyone but then again it's not like people I've turned down saying they hate me IN CAPSLOCK would upset me anyway (actually I laugh about it in other settings so probably the same in this setting..


Now, really something around 2/3rds of the people you or I contact would actually get along with us really well but 1/3rd to 1/5th even so much as reply and my understanding of the reason for this (aside from things everyone mentions like profiles for people who aren't actually interested in dating having profiles,) would be that we don't know or make clear what we're looking for.
"I'll know it when I see it" sorts of mentalities lead to not really liking any of what you see as much as you realistically would.

Shoku's photo
Thu 10/08/09 09:45 PM


I choose to sound angry when people give me advice I already understand. When I was younger I was very polite and just let everyone think that they were being helpful but I realized that wasn't really useful to either of us and decided to try to be more honest.



Why get angry at all? You asked for advice. That does not mean you'll always get advice you want to use. Just say thanks and take whatever advice you think will work for you. If you're going to get angry, you might be better off not asking for advice to begin with.

Example: I give a list of questions about how to do more pictures. How do people respond? "I don't read what you write and your opinion is wrong."

Shoku's photo
Fri 10/09/09 07:51 AM
Well maybe not. After complaining about no explanations of picture advice I did get the one response from Ruth but that was that I didn't need more pictures so I still don't know the answers or even starts of them about anything I asked.

Would people respond to me if my replies were shorter and dumber?
Like "More pictures? What is more pictures?"

no photo
Fri 10/09/09 07:56 AM
If you don't like the advice you're receiving, start looking through profiles on your own. See what other people write. You're really, really over analyzing things. If you keep getting mad at people because you don't like their advice, people will stop giving you advice when you ask.

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 10/09/09 08:05 AM


I know, how dare anyone reject you after you went to all the trouble of writing a message or copying a pasting one to them?



Just FYI. There is a limit to how many emails you can send out in a certain time period that say the same thing. They get blocked because I think the site picks it up as spam. Something like that. So, if you are sending out hundreds of email, they may not be going through.

Ruth34611's photo
Fri 10/09/09 08:09 AM

Well maybe not. After complaining about no explanations of picture advice I did get the one response from Ruth but that was that I didn't need more pictures so I still don't know the answers or even starts of them about anything I asked.

Would people respond to me if my replies were shorter and dumber?
Like "More pictures? What is more pictures?"


I doubt you'll get any more advice. You're last statement was just plain rude.