I agree with the issue about why are you studing biology, today college is expensive and you need to do your own very extensive research into the reasons and job availibility of this major. Keep trying

That's more like what I wanted to hear, though if you want to be called brutally honest you shouldn't soften it as much as you did.

Trouble is I've forgotten how to advertise myself, or maybe never learned.

Maybe start off by explaining how I can phrase "you can't offend me" in an attractive tone?

- So I've set it back to more what I had earlier. I don't remember what the other paragraphs were about though so there are just the two for now. I didn't have it like it's been for most of my time here and on other sites my profile has dressed up my interests.
I actually had it like this at the advice of a so called "expert." I figured the interests were enough of a train wreck that someone should have pointed it out sooner.

Welcome



Tammy

Are people welcoming me because I've got a low post count or is the forum crowd small enough that everyone recognizes the same faces?

The part about being average because of talentless teachers and family troubles is awfully negative. Even if it was supposed to be sarcastic.

Yes and yes.

Well ya, that's why I took it out before and weeded things down to the joke of a profile I started this with.

Think about it. I've been trying the online dating things for a year approaching hundreds of women and haven't come anywhere near a date from it all.

I was happy to see someone who had the guts to say "everything about your profile is wrong" and I'm hinting that I want people to tell me how to describe myself.

Do you think that I can't tell how negative everything in my head is?

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That earlier bit about sending mail out to everyone in the 30 pages of search needs some more explanation I think. I went through all of those pages to check for people I hadn't already contacted. I think there were only around 15-20.

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If people really can't understand what I'm asking for just pick out three profiles that look good and I'll try to emulate those but unless you want to personally rewrite everything new I think to type in the next few days you've got to give me some other tool to fix the tone.

And I've never thought well when in categories. I'm a little lacking in common sense so "what do you want for dinner" has always seemed like "pick something out of an infinite number of options" and I know I'm not the only person who goes nowhere fast when they've got to make choices like that.

Even if I hate the examples people give they still work as a starting point and I'm a whole lot better at chains of thought than picking from infinity.

Well I'm welcoming you cause I never seen you round before

And someone already pointed out what I went to say so I don't like to repeat to much

And to introduce myself

So
Hey
Again!

So do these topics usually burn out by the time about this many faces have seen them and stop returning or has my "things instead of categories" approach chased everyone away?

Analyze much!

we are WATCHING and carefully submitting your posts and responses to th FBI for inspection!



so far it remains highly suspicious...

My thinking is too abstract. I guess I think of people almost entirely AS emotion and as I actually experience my own emotions first hand that's an awful lot to try to convert into words.

I'm interesting and well liked by the people I know (except a few times when I decided I should make some enemies,) but unless what I've got right now is good (and it's not, I need to figure out how to redo the intelligence part,) I really don't know how to show that in writing- or at least not in giving a summary of myself.
In arguing a topic I do much better because negativity has a place there.

Just be yourself, rather than telling people you're interesting and well liked. If you are, people will see that.

I agree...
except that that is if people were having conversations with me. Most people won't and when I'm talking about hundreds of people, most of whom were new or active members when I contacted them, I'm well enough convinced that I need to send a different kind of message or that I need to have a different quality to my profile.

I've worked on the messages starting from day 1 and by putting up all nerd interests and vague description I can say that having my profile like that definitely made things worse.

And being myself? Being myself is not talking about myself at all and that sort of seems like it doesn't work well for introductions.

My point was let others decide you're well liked, rather than you telling them that.

I'd never have decided it myself. I feel weird getting complimented about things by people I didn't think were my friends but it happened a lot so I started to accept it.

But I don't ever say it to other people. It was difficult even thinking of those words in relation to myself and I was intentionally trying to give bad examples here so people would have something to not just say "No!" at but alter.

My mental filters keep me from saying that kinds of thing but they also keep me from saying much of anything which is why I had trimmed my profile down to a state of uselessness to begin with.


Now, right here you can tell that I sort of understand how to make things better in that I changed saying "people like me" kind of excess self praise into other people saying positive things about me but I don't think I could just rant like this in the profile. There's not a previous voice in it I can argue against and without that I don't know how to describe people at all much less describe myself in a detailed way.

So THAT is what I want help with. Can I expect anything like that here or do I have to suffer the "don't do that" "do this better" kind of critique that makes everyone look like they really don't understand how to view things from any perspective but their own?

U seem angry in your posting my friend. You frustration is very likely showing through as people read your profile. That will make them wonder what you are NOT saying. Do not stress the responses you dont get. There are alot of profiles on this site that are straight bs. Then of the .. what .. 1/3rd that are real, only half of those are actually looking. As opposed to the guys, where probably 75% are real. The fact is for us guys, there is ALOT of competition out there. And most of the guys are complete pervs that are making it harder for the rest of us to meet anyone. Here's the deal. I can't tell you how to do this, cause I don't really know yet. Still trying to figure out the particulars myself. You need to assure people that you are a good, responsible, mature man that is not a pervert or player. BUT you need to do it without saying any of those things. Get it? If you say it, women will think your lying... LOL The internet is a tough place to meet anyone. Everyone knows there's nothing but pervs and worse out there. Take it easy and dont try. It will happen when you are not looking for it. And probably not online. Most likely it will be some place you never thought of. The supermarket. Or church. Who knows. The important thing is not to worry too much about it.

Just let profiles be profiles I say!!

Everyones different. Let their profiles show it!!

I really don't like tweaking others profiles! Then I feel like I'm changing them into what I think they should be

I see some agonizing over it

I see some, like myself just throwing caution to the wind!!

I like to read them all!!

Ya put out there what ya want!!

And gonesh is right--- we never know where or when attractions gonna hit ya between the eyes!

Since we don't know you, we can't really help you figure out how to describe yourself in a detailed way. It sounds like you're just over thinking things, though. Don't worry so much.

I choose to sound angry when people give me advice I already understand. When I was younger I was very polite and just let everyone think that they were being helpful but I realized that wasn't really useful to either of us and decided to try to be more honest.

I've got possibly the worst track record of "stop trying so hard and it will just happen" possible and I can say that because I have not tried at all until starting one year ago. A variety of things I'm well aware of have made me prone to social anxiety so meeting entirely random people never happens for me, ever. The only way I ever made friends in the first place was being introduced by other people I knew but right at this point in my life my social circles have dead ended.


Now, I'm not asking people to tell me who I am. I'm asking how to say it in a good way.

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I live in Utah so I am perpetually bored. I know this is not a good way to advertise myself.
The boredom is well enough justified if you know what Utah is like. There is really very little to do so if you don't feel like playing basketball, going to the same pool every day, or walking around parks (and apparently nobody attractive likes parks in this state,) then you do things at home.
When I got bored I found weird Japanese media to consume but as we're all aware mentioning those at the forefront of who you are basically says "I'm nobody."

This isn't a big problem because I am a lot more than that but I can't think of how to describe it.
I'm smart. Not in the pocket protector and don't know how to talk sense- I've got a great sense of the timing needed to be a good comedian and I've got a strong memory so once I know what someone will laugh at I am enormously entertaining to be around.'

I'm not a clown though. I am very much an intellectual but I make people laugh and try to talk smoothly because I'm not "too smart" to function socially. Am I a dork? Yes, but only to the same degree as whoever I'm talking to.

I'm artistic and creative. I've got impressive control over fine movements of my hands and a knack for design. I'm always finding new ways to express that and the things I put on paper are dwarfed by the mountain of ideas I've fleshed out well enough in my head that I could put them on paper.

I'm opinionated. I make up my mind about current issues quickly but unlike a lot of people I can support my opinion and I'm actually open minded enough that a well thought out argument can sway me.

But I'm not only good at mental types of activity. I'm a natural skier, though not very skilled because my mother was a spoiled sport and never wanted to go when I was younger. I'm good enough at sprinting to catch animals when the rest of my family have decided that running after them would be a futile effort and my legs also have the endurance for hiking. My high pain tolerance probably plays into that sort of thing because I get tired like anyone else but the distance between tired and exhausted looks to be much greater for me.

So I'm asking you not to say these things about me but how to say them about myself (or to give me any guidelines for how to take more pictures of myself without just taking the same picture 9 times.) Can I just copy and paste most of this into my profile or should I rephrase it? Is there something I can do so that people won't read it as anger but instead as enthusiasm? Are there other things I should talk about? Is my writing style too challenging for most people's reading level? Is this too much information?