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Edited by
adj4u
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""""not any of your taxes""""" is what makes him a liar you have an issue with it talk to reuters it is their article if you are paying an increased tax on anything then yes he is a liar That's how you and reuters interpret it, not how I did or others. Besides Obama didn't start all the raises in taxes on cigs. My own state raised them 3 times before the time Obama had anything to do with it. no interprtation he said exactly that """not any of your taxes""" here is the video of him saying it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8erePM8V5U |
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I didn't see how it affected food stamps any more than those not on food stamps. The government doesn't tax foodstamps anyway, it is illegal to do so. So foodstamps buying soda or any other kind of food or drink does not create tax revenue. |
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I didn't see how it affected food stamps any more than those not on food stamps. The government doesn't tax foodstamps anyway, it is illegal to do so. So foodstamps buying soda or any other kind of food or drink does not create tax revenue. hey you  |
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Ya know..... don't actually mind a " sin " tax on soda.
They have been taxing the hell out of tobacco for quite a while now. I figure it's about time to tax alcohol and stuff like soda. I wouldn't really notice it all that much because we already pay an extra dime for deposit on the bottles anyway. A few more cents won't be that big a deal to me. |
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another tax on the middle class he said he would not tax PROMISE: "I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes" (September 12, 2008, Dover, NH) [Transcript] [Video clip] "No one making less than $250,000 under Barack Obama's plan will see one single penny of their tax raised," Joe Biden said, "whether it's their capital gains tax, their income tax, investment tax, any tax." (Joe Biden, Oct. 3, 2008, Vice Presidential Debate, St. Louis, MO) [Transcript] [Video Clip] DATES PROMISE BROKEN: Feb. 4 -- just 16 days into his presidency, Obama signs into law a 156 percent increase in the federal excise tax on tobacco, a hike of 61 cents per pack, which took effect on April 1. The tax increase falls squarely on the shoulders of the middle and low-income Americans Obama said he would not raise taxes on: 55 percent of smokers are "working poor", one in four smokers live below the poverty line, and on average, smokers, whose median income is a little more than $36,000 make about 30 percent less than non-smokers. Feb. 26 -- Obama released his FY 2010 budget which imposes a range of tax hikes including a "cap and trade" tax of $646 billion. Every American family will pay this tax in the form of higher gasoline, heating and electric bills. By adding together the "cap and trade" tax increase along with other energy tax hikes in the Obama budget and dividing by the number of families, it's clear what this annual tax hike would be: The average American family would pay, directly or indirectly, approximately $10,000 per year in new energy taxes. http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS258402+28-Apr-2009+PRN20090428 he is a major liar plain and simple and if a persons word is no good what good are they Tax increases on cigs doesn't count because people with incomes over 250,000 buy them too. So that wasn't a lie. The same thing applies for the energy tax, people who make more than 250,000 will be paying this also so that isn't a lie either. |
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I didn't see how it affected food stamps any more than those not on food stamps. The government doesn't tax foodstamps anyway, it is illegal to do so. So foodstamps buying soda or any other kind of food or drink does not create tax revenue. hey you Hey  Did you get my obsessive nudges the other day??? I was feeling silly. 
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another tax on the middle class he said he would not tax PROMISE: "I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes" (September 12, 2008, Dover, NH) [Transcript] [Video clip] "No one making less than $250,000 under Barack Obama's plan will see one single penny of their tax raised," Joe Biden said, "whether it's their capital gains tax, their income tax, investment tax, any tax." (Joe Biden, Oct. 3, 2008, Vice Presidential Debate, St. Louis, MO) [Transcript] [Video Clip] DATES PROMISE BROKEN: Feb. 4 -- just 16 days into his presidency, Obama signs into law a 156 percent increase in the federal excise tax on tobacco, a hike of 61 cents per pack, which took effect on April 1. The tax increase falls squarely on the shoulders of the middle and low-income Americans Obama said he would not raise taxes on: 55 percent of smokers are "working poor", one in four smokers live below the poverty line, and on average, smokers, whose median income is a little more than $36,000 make about 30 percent less than non-smokers. Feb. 26 -- Obama released his FY 2010 budget which imposes a range of tax hikes including a "cap and trade" tax of $646 billion. Every American family will pay this tax in the form of higher gasoline, heating and electric bills. By adding together the "cap and trade" tax increase along with other energy tax hikes in the Obama budget and dividing by the number of families, it's clear what this annual tax hike would be: The average American family would pay, directly or indirectly, approximately $10,000 per year in new energy taxes. http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS258402+28-Apr-2009+PRN20090428 he is a major liar plain and simple and if a persons word is no good what good are they Tax increases on cigs doesn't count because people with incomes over 250,000 buy them too. So that wasn't a lie. The same thing applies for the energy tax, people who make more than 250,000 will be paying this also so that isn't a lie either. it is a tax those under 250k pay as well yes it is a tax all pay but he said """not any of your taxes""" he did not say not any taxes except those everyone pays he said not any thus he lied no ifs ands or butts it is a tax that those that make under 250k pay and he raised it plain and simple |
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I didn't see how it affected food stamps any more than those not on food stamps. The government doesn't tax foodstamps anyway, it is illegal to do so. So foodstamps buying soda or any other kind of food or drink does not create tax revenue. hey you Hey Did you get my obsessive nudges the other day??? I was feeling silly. yes and they felt good to hehehehe |
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Commentary: Tax promise could cost Obama his job http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/06/feehery.tax.promise/ cnn also has a word or two about it it is not just me the last president that promised """no new taxes""" lost their reelection try because they lied as well Which is worse, to attempt to not raise taxes that impact the lower incomes or promise tax cuts to everyone and they only apply for the elite? |
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Edited by
adj4u
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Wed 09/09/09 09:16 PM
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who do you think buys the most tobacco and sugar products
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I didn't see how it affected food stamps any more than those not on food stamps. The government doesn't tax foodstamps anyway, it is illegal to do so. So foodstamps buying soda or any other kind of food or drink does not create tax revenue. hey you Hey Did you get my obsessive nudges the other day??? I was feeling silly. yes and they felt good to hehehehe  |
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I'll just wait for BHO to tax desserts (cakes, candy, ice cream, etc) since I don't do desserts...it won't bother me then
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who do you think buys the most tobacco and sugar products Now that I am quitting smoking, not me. So I am not sure I can distinquish who would buy more though anyway. |
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I'll just wait for BHO to tax desserts (cakes, candy, ice cream, etc) since I don't do desserts...it won't bother me then Aw poor Rose. Hey, he will tax something that has no impact on you I am sure. If he already isn't. The list of taxes we pay is a long long one. I don't mind them though, when I drive through this country and see my tax dollars at work, I am pleased. |
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I'll just wait for BHO to tax desserts (cakes, candy, ice cream, etc) since I don't do desserts...it won't bother me then Aw poor Rose. Hey, he will tax something that has no impact on you I am sure. If he already isn't. The list of taxes we pay is a long long one. I don't mind them though, when I drive through this country and see my tax dollars at work, I am pleased. it's not just me. I DO mind them when it's supposed to be "for our own good" I'm a big girl now and I don't need someone telling me that sodas or coffee or cigarettes or whatever aren't "good for me" |
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what if I told you that every day that I smoked it cost you $10, for the rest of your life? How about every time I drank a beer that cost you $5 a day? I smoke and drink beer so I'm costing you $15 a day for, lets say 40 years? That nearly a quarter of a million dollars I am costing *you*.
Of course my health care in my later years wont be so dramatic but the principle is the same. How much will I cost your children and grandchildren if I don't stop doing what I am doing? Now extrapolate that into the millions. That is a lot of money. period. So I postulate that it is society's responsibility to deal with the social norm that it is ok for me to smoke and drink and deal in risky behavior. Evidently we all hate big government telling us what to do. Drinking soda is bad for us it makes us fat it causes tooth decay which results in dentist bills, which insurance pays for, which drives up insurance costs, so we can no longer afford it and demand the government give us health care. The point is that as Americans we must own ourselves and do what is necessary to live healthy lives. Should my bad habits reflect on you? Should you pay for my cancer? my emphysema? Simply said? NO. But that is exactly what is happening. A tax on soda? Small potatoes. Deal with the real issue. We think we can do whatever we want when ever we want and never deal with the complications. That is American and we all know it. You dont want to deal with my **** and and I dont want to deal with yours. But the answer is that you should deal with me and I should deal with you. That is the solution. If we were a small community and I was doing something to endanger it I would would be corrected, imprisoned, or banished. That's how it works. Do I have the right to poison myself? Sure! do I have the right to make you pay for it? Evidently. |
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I'll just wait for BHO to tax desserts (cakes, candy, ice cream, etc) since I don't do desserts...it won't bother me then Aw poor Rose. Hey, he will tax something that has no impact on you I am sure. If he already isn't. The list of taxes we pay is a long long one. I don't mind them though, when I drive through this country and see my tax dollars at work, I am pleased. it's not just me. I DO mind them when it's supposed to be "for our own good" I'm a big girl now and I don't need someone telling me that sodas or coffee or cigarettes or whatever aren't "good for me" Hey they are just charging you more for them...lol You can still indulge. |
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I did NOT say I couldn't....this is getting absolutely ridiculous. the point is...they don't have a right to raise taxes just because it's not good for me.
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WASHINGTON (AP) - One of President Barack Obama's campaign pledges on taxes went up in puffs of smoke Wednesday.
The largest increase in tobacco taxes took effect despite Obama's promise not to raise taxes of any kind on families earning under $250,000 or individuals under $200,000. This is one tax that disproportionately affects the poor, who are more likely to smoke than the rich. To be sure, Obama's tax promises in last year's campaign were most often made in the context of income taxes. Not always. "I can make a firm pledge," he said in Dover, N.H., on Sept. 12. "Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes." He repeatedly vowed "you will not see any of your taxes increase one single dime." http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D979POSG0&show_article=1 |
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who do you think buys the most tobacco and sugar products ADj, if peole use their heads they don't have to go with out. I am no where near middle class anymore, and I am not hurting one bit by the tax hike in cigs, in fact I am paying so much less for them I should have thought of it before. As for sugar there are many things you can do to cut back on sugar, and it's actually gonna make you healthier. Don't want to cut down an sugar, well then there are still ways to get enough sugar with out freaking out over a few cents. I live in a town where there are tons of poor people. Frankly they laugh at city folks freaking out. They knew years ago how to live on less and still be quite content. This president is not going to be able to keep every word as promised, even if he still wants to, I am sure he got quite and education on the kind of opposition he was going to get to his promises, so if he doesnt keep a few I am not going to call him a liar. I've had to break a few promises in my own life, does that make me a liar? No it just means that I wasn't able to keep that particular promise. This president is up against every kind of ugly attitude a human can lay on one person. I admire the fact that he can hold up under pressure like he does. |
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