Topic: Some hard questions about God and Heaven
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Sun 09/27/09 07:56 AM

If God is a male humanoid (certainly not a human) does he have male organs? If so, what does he use them for? Does he go to the bathroom with them, or have sex with them? If not why have them? If he does not have them, why call God a HE or a male?


I suppose you are talking about the Judeo-Christian belief in God. I'll try to answer the question for you. I haven't read the full thread, so if someone has already answered the question to your satisfaction, then I am sorry to waste more space with my answers.

Mankind was created in God's spiritual and intellectual image.

We crave Justice, as God is a Just God.
We crave love, as God is a loving God.
We crave reason, as God is a rational being.

God does not have a physical body, therefore God doesn't have organs of any kind. Jesus taught that God is spirit, meaning no physical existence.

God choose to reveal some facets of his nature to us by describing himself as male. I believe that God is using male to represent all of the best things about men. Jesus is the visible representation of the invisible God, so I imagine God is like Jesus in a way. A leader and teacher who has no interest in sexual activity. God is described repeatedly as "father" in the Bible, so God also has those paternal aspects to his nature.

I hope this helps.

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Sun 09/27/09 09:36 AM
Justice, love , reason....etc?.
Where are they ?.
The world is screwed up from day one .
So God did screw his own principles .
congratulations to you God !!!.

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Sun 09/27/09 09:58 AM


....doesn't it say " that god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son..now i'm thinking he and his ..are key words here..but i could be wrong ...smokin

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Sun 09/27/09 10:38 AM

Justice, love , reason....etc?.
Where are they ?.
The world is screwed up from day one .
So God did screw his own principles .
congratulations to you God !!!.


Every murderer wants to be treated fairly, right? They love justice, but only when it is applied to them. They make exceptions for their crimes. She deserved it, etc. So God didn't screw up, it's we humans who make exceptions in our own minds for the behaviors we want to participate in.

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Sun 09/27/09 11:23 AM
Just for the record, I'd like to respond to some statements that were made. This response is in no way directed toward the person I've quoted. I'm simply bouncing off these ideas with my own personal views, just in the interest of sharing views and nothing more.

Clearly we're speaking about the Christian Bible here because of the mention of Jesus, so from that perspective here are my views.


God choose to reveal some facets of his nature to us by describing himself as male.


I personally believe that the men who wrote the Bible took it upon themselves to create a patriarchal God to support and facilitate their own male chauvinistic attitude.

I believe that God is using male to represent all of the best things about men.


It would seem to me that if the supreme creator of this universe were going to select a gender to best represent divinity she would have chosen to be viewed as a female.

I say this because females are naturally more nurturing as they are the bearers and mentors to their young offspring.

Jesus is the visible representation of the invisible God, so I imagine God is like Jesus in a way.


When I compare the ethical values, and solutions to problems, that the gospels attribute to Jesus, I have no choice but to conclude that Jesus was totally unlike the invisible God of the Old Testament. His values and solutions to problems weren't even close to being simliar in style. Jesus had far more in common with the teachings of Siddhartha Guatama (Buddha) than he had in common with Yahweh (the God of Abraham)

A leader and teacher who has no interest in sexual activity.


Sexual activity is primarily for the purpose of procreation. Since God is supposed to be the giver of life (which is another reason why God should be female), then sexual activity should be considered the most divine act that any human can possibly engage in since it is the very act of creation.

The idea that the Biblical doctrine has always tried to make sexual activity out to be something 'dirty' or 'sinful' has always seemed to me to be the most blasphemist idea of all.

Besides, Jesus clearly had a girlfriend in Mary Magdalene. Just because no one wrote of his sexual activities with her does not mean that he didn't have a sexual relationship with her. I imagine that he most like did have a sexually intimate relationship with her.


God is described repeatedly as "father" in the Bible, so God also has those paternal aspects to his nature.


Based on how the God of Abraham solved his problems and taught his lessons I can only say that personally I feel that he was the worse example of parternal mentoring that I can imagine. I've known mortal men who have been far better examples of paternal skills.

If you look through the Bible you'll see that the God of Abraham solves just about every problem he encounters using violence and bloodshed. It starts with his demand for blood sacrifices to make attonements for disobeying him. He floods the entire planet to flush sinners to hell. He curses Egyptians with plagues that kill all their babies. He leads his people to a 'promised land' only to have them murder all the men, women, children, and babies that were living on the land.

Even the idea that he had his only begotten son nailed to a pole is a violent act to solve a problem.

If we accept this God as an example of good paternal behavior then clearly to be good parents we should solve all our problems using equally violent methods. We should even have our childern sacrificing their pets to appease us when they disobey us.

After all, should not our God be our 'example' of divinity?

Just my thoughts, for whatever they're worth. Again, I stress that this was not aimed at the individual who's quotes I bounced off. I was just responding to these religious ideals which are held in high regard by many Christians.

From my point of view I just don't see these concepts as being divine.

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Sun 09/27/09 11:53 AM
In Gen..God created the heavens and earth..he created man in his own image..he used one of Adam's ribs to create Eve...the rest of your post is a tad humorous but foolish in the same...Be safe and keep the faith everyone and God bless you

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Sun 09/27/09 12:11 PM


Justice, love , reason....etc?.
Where are they ?.
The world is screwed up from day one .
So God did screw his own principles .
congratulations to you God !!!.


Every murderer wants to be treated fairly, right? They love justice, but only when it is applied to them. They make exceptions for their crimes. She deserved it, etc. So God didn't screw up, it's we humans who make exceptions in our own minds for the behaviors we want to participate in.

I am a stubborn person and I am after your God as he has the power to change things and he does not . I am following your logic of course .drinker drinker .

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Sun 09/27/09 12:32 PM
God is called he because of the latin langage it came out of in many other languages everything has a pronoun he, she, him, her, God takes on a masculine pronoun thus why we refer to god as he

In reality God has no sex however he sent his son Jesus Christ to earth to save us all and he sent Jesus in mans form so that we as humans could better understand him.

atleast thats my interpretation. Good luck in your pursuit.

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Sun 09/27/09 12:33 PM

Just for the record, I'd like to respond to some statements that were made. This response is in no way directed toward the person I've quoted. I'm simply bouncing off these ideas with my own personal views, just in the interest of sharing views and nothing more.

Clearly we're speaking about the Christian Bible here because of the mention of Jesus, so from that perspective here are my views.


God choose to reveal some facets of his nature to us by describing himself as male.


I personally believe that the men who wrote the Bible took it upon themselves to create a patriarchal God to support and facilitate their own male chauvinistic attitude.

I believe that God is using male to represent all of the best things about men.


It would seem to me that if the supreme creator of this universe were going to select a gender to best represent divinity she would have chosen to be viewed as a female.

I say this because females are naturally more nurturing as they are the bearers and mentors to their young offspring.

Jesus is the visible representation of the invisible God, so I imagine God is like Jesus in a way.


When I compare the ethical values, and solutions to problems, that the gospels attribute to Jesus, I have no choice but to conclude that Jesus was totally unlike the invisible God of the Old Testament. His values and solutions to problems weren't even close to being simliar in style. Jesus had far more in common with the teachings of Siddhartha Guatama (Buddha) than he had in common with Yahweh (the God of Abraham)

A leader and teacher who has no interest in sexual activity.


Sexual activity is primarily for the purpose of procreation. Since God is supposed to be the giver of life (which is another reason why God should be female), then sexual activity should be considered the most divine act that any human can possibly engage in since it is the very act of creation.

The idea that the Biblical doctrine has always tried to make sexual activity out to be something 'dirty' or 'sinful' has always seemed to me to be the most blasphemist idea of all.

Besides, Jesus clearly had a girlfriend in Mary Magdalene. Just because no one wrote of his sexual activities with her does not mean that he didn't have a sexual relationship with her. I imagine that he most like did have a sexually intimate relationship with her.


God is described repeatedly as "father" in the Bible, so God also has those paternal aspects to his nature.


Based on how the God of Abraham solved his problems and taught his lessons I can only say that personally I feel that he was the worse example of parternal mentoring that I can imagine. I've known mortal men who have been far better examples of paternal skills.

If you look through the Bible you'll see that the God of Abraham solves just about every problem he encounters using violence and bloodshed. It starts with his demand for blood sacrifices to make attonements for disobeying him. He floods the entire planet to flush sinners to hell. He curses Egyptians with plagues that kill all their babies. He leads his people to a 'promised land' only to have them murder all the men, women, children, and babies that were living on the land.

Even the idea that he had his only begotten son nailed to a pole is a violent act to solve a problem.

If we accept this God as an example of good paternal behavior then clearly to be good parents we should solve all our problems using equally violent methods. We should even have our childern sacrificing their pets to appease us when they disobey us.

After all, should not our God be our 'example' of divinity?

Just my thoughts, for whatever they're worth. Again, I stress that this was not aimed at the individual who's quotes I bounced off. I was just responding to these religious ideals which are held in high regard by many Christians.

From my point of view I just don't see these concepts as being divine.


How are ya Abra.

I know we basically have come to the conclusion to agree to disagree which i am fine with.

i get many thoughts from you that helps me.. Critical thinking will do that and i know you think very deeply about things.

You are off the mark but thats ok.laugh drinker


Just wanted to relay which most do not want to examine. Is the word Tesla.

The word rib translation for eve coming from mans rib is the hebrew word Tesla.

It means hollow, chamber ect.

Now with this in mind to me at least it makes more sence that the reason Yahweh sewed Adam back up is because he took Adams Womb from him.

Even woman is very closely related to the thought womb-man..woman.


If this be the case then when Yahshua was asked about the woman who had 7 husbands in the regeneration whos wife would she be.

He replied they did not understand that in heaven they are neither married or given in marraige.

This seems to fit that Tesla was in man a womb he had both sexes as even today babies are sometimes born that away.

Now if Adam was made in Yahweh's image then Yahweh would not be gender specific as we know today.

Then the woman is to leave her fathers house and cling to her husband and the 2 shall become one.

It even calls this a Great Mystery. The joining of man and wife becomes the Adam originally made.

Could i suppose but I do not agree be why some male or females say they feel they are trapped in the wrong body.

I do not know. But scripture even if they feel this way does not allow them to play the oppisite role so to speak because the 2 bodies were given for specific purposes to populate the earth.

I know you see what I am saying Shalom.My Friend and Blessings to ya...Miles

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Sun 09/27/09 12:44 PM



Justice, love , reason....etc?.
Where are they ?.
The world is screwed up from day one .
So God did screw his own principles .
congratulations to you God !!!.


Every murderer wants to be treated fairly, right? They love justice, but only when it is applied to them. They make exceptions for their crimes. She deserved it, etc. So God didn't screw up, it's we humans who make exceptions in our own minds for the behaviors we want to participate in.

I am a stubborn person and I am after your God as he has the power to change things and he does not . I am following your logic of course .drinker drinker .


Describe a world that is better than our own and all of the people have free will.

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Sun 09/27/09 11:34 PM

If God is a male humanoid (certainly not a human) does he have male organs? If so, what does he use them for? Does he go to the bathroom with them, or have sex with them? If not why have them? If he does not have them, why call God a HE or a male?

Next:

Okay if God does use his organs to go to to the bathroom, are there toilets in heaven? If there are toilets in heaven are there plumbers and plumbing?

If God uses his sex organs for sex, who does he have sex with. Is there a Mrs God or does he just go around looking for virgins to impregnate all over the universe?

Now I don't mean this to be disrespectful really, these questions come up in my mind when I hear people call God "He." and claim that he is a male.





Well, I'll confine myself to your original question. Your bible is not without it's contradictions on the subject. However, my overall impression from it is that God reveals himself in the text as being like that of a man by saying man was created in his image. Woman was created from Adam's rib, a small piece of man. As far as what he does with his penis, who knows? I don't know anyone who can prove that Heaven even exists much less how it's going to be.

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Wed 09/30/09 06:29 AM
Describe a world that is better than our own and all of the people have free will.


Genesis 6:1-4 reads:

“And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose... There were nephilim in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.”

Nephilim is often translated as “giants”, a legitimate and appropriate interpretation, but one which may be only partially accurate. A better definition might be “those who came down”, “those who descended”, or “those who were cast down.” The Anunnaki of ancient Sumerian texts is similarly defined as “those who from heaven to earth came”.

A better world is where the Anunnaki "came down from" Maybe this is Heaven?

Bob Out

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Wed 09/30/09 08:08 AM
I believe in a Creative Force that created us from itself using itself. I believe that's how we got the "created in His own image". Not because we literally look like this force, but because our true selves, our spirit bodies, are a part of the Creative Force. We now have the same creative force within us and we are here to do just that....create.

The Creative Force which we call God, is neither male nor female. It has both male and female aspects. We cannot truly conceive of what God is so we take different aspects of God and humanize them so we can relate to God. When I call God/dess by a name, it is just my way of trying to connect with something that I can't really grasp with my finite mind.

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Thu 10/01/09 10:57 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 10/01/09 10:58 AM

In Gen..God created the heavens and earth..he created man in his own image..he used one of Adam's ribs to create Eve...the rest of your post is a tad humorous but foolish in the same...Be safe and keep the faith everyone and God bless you



Why is my post humorous and foolish? Really, I want to know. Of course I am addressing the people who talk to me about "God" as if they have seen him in the flesh. People who say, "God told me this... or "God said that..." Or "God wants us to do this or that..." blah blah blah and so on.

I also get a bang out of people who tell me they would like to introduce me to Jesus and invite me to their church. I ask them "Does Jesus really go to your church?"

If you want to talk about your invisible friend as if he were real, that is your choice but when people expect me to play along with their fantasy I think that is what is humorous and and foolish.

Okay, so lets say I do play along with them...and assume that they do talk to God or Jesus in person. Okay assume I believe that. Now I have some real question for them. I don't think they are funny at all.

Okay so I buy the story that God or Jesus is at your church... I go.. I ask where is he I don't "see" him? They expect me to understand and play along with their delusion? No thanks.

Sorry to be so harsh. I don't mind what concept of God people hold, but what I don't do is play along with their delusions as if they were real.


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Thu 10/01/09 11:02 AM

Describe a world that is better than our own and all of the people have free will.


Genesis 6:1-4 reads:

“And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose... There were nephilim in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.”

Nephilim is often translated as “giants”, a legitimate and appropriate interpretation, but one which may be only partially accurate. A better definition might be “those who came down”, “those who descended”, or “those who were cast down.” The Anunnaki of ancient Sumerian texts is similarly defined as “those who from heaven to earth came”.

A better world is where the Anunnaki "came down from" Maybe this is Heaven?

Bob Out


NON HUMAN INTELLIGENT LIFE FORMS. ALIENS. bigsmile

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Thu 10/01/09 03:44 PM


Describe a world that is better than our own and all of the people have free will.


Genesis 6:1-4 reads:

“And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose... There were nephilim in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.”

Nephilim is often translated as “giants”, a legitimate and appropriate interpretation, but one which may be only partially accurate. A better definition might be “those who came down”, “those who descended”, or “those who were cast down.” The Anunnaki of ancient Sumerian texts is similarly defined as “those who from heaven to earth came”.

A better world is where the Anunnaki "came down from" Maybe this is Heaven?

Bob Out


NON HUMAN INTELLIGENT LIFE FORMS. ALIENS. bigsmile


Shhhhhh it'll be our secret. flowerforyou

Bob has beamed out of the building.

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Thu 10/01/09 04:29 PM
I don't know for sure where I heard this but I thought it was cute, despite what Westerners think, jesus is not blue-eyed blonde from California!

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Thu 10/01/09 05:10 PM

I don't know for sure where I heard this but I thought it was cute, despite what Westerners think, jesus is not blue-eyed blonde from California!


How would you know? Do you have some inside information about who Jesus was and what he looked like? I doubt it.

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Thu 10/01/09 05:27 PM


I don't know for sure where I heard this but I thought it was cute, despite what Westerners think, jesus is not blue-eyed blonde from California!


How would you know? Do you have some inside information about who Jesus was and what he looked like? I doubt it.

It is well known that Jesus was a Middle Eastern Jew from Palestine .
He became a Christians and lost his life in a very violent way .
As a mere person he could not save his own skin .
I think anyone who thinks Jesus is God or the son of God is living in delusion ......flowerforyou flowerforyou .

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Thu 10/01/09 05:48 PM
flowerforyou Jeanniebean---"One True God" is sexless.flowerforyou There were many "gods" once but "One True God" betrayed the others and offered eternal salvation to humankind.flowerforyou The "OneTrueGod" is a jealous god.flowerforyou He/She want no other gods before "him".:smile: And he/she is on the side of humanity.:smile: