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Edited by
Abracadabra
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Fri 09/04/09 01:19 PM
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The only faith I need to have is that God is at least as nice as me.
Anything less would hardly be divine.  Of course atheism could be true and we're all just worthless slime. But why focus on such a worthless picture? If we're going to dream why not at least dream good dreams? Whatever will be will be.  The least we can do is imagine it's good whilst it lasts!  What's the point in doing anything less, unless you're a masochist? Why believe in dogma that makes God out to be an egotistical pig who lusts to be the king of kings and lord of lords and is chomping at the bit to cast innocent people into a hell fire just because they don't believe that God could be such a jerk? What a horrible disgusting deity that would be. 
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The only faith I need to have is that God is at least as nice as me. I suspect 'he' is way nicer. 
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God is an Angry black woman is her name Whoopi by any chance?  Yes that's It!! |
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The only faith I need to have is that God is at least as nice as me. I suspect 'he' is way nicer. Well, I'm hoping for that as well. But I only need to have faith that God is at least as nice. Nicer is just icing on the cake. 
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Edited by
earthytaurus76
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Fri 09/04/09 03:05 PM
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I dont question God. God is who he is, he is what he is. Of course you don't. You can't!! You don't know where "he" is or what "he" looks like. You would not know God if you bumped into "him," so how could you question "him?" You say that "God is who he is and what he is." Already you have made him into a male. If you believe that God made man in his own image, then you believe he is a humanoid. It is not God you don't question. It is the authority who has defined him to you as being a male humanoid supreme being. This you apparently accept but do not question. That's probably a good thing because the church authorities don't like to be questioned about the nature of God. They promote blind faith. They have never seen God either. Thats YOUR problem, and assumption, and not mine. Youre not changing my views. You dont know if I goto church, you dont know what I do. You dont want people shoving their beliefs at you, or telling you what you believe, or about your belief, so lay off mine. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Fri 09/04/09 03:43 PM
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I dont question God. God is who he is, he is what he is. Of course you don't. You can't!! You don't know where "he" is or what "he" looks like. You would not know God if you bumped into "him," so how could you question "him?" You say that "God is who he is and what he is." Already you have made him into a male. If you believe that God made man in his own image, then you believe he is a humanoid. It is not God you don't question. It is the authority who has defined him to you as being a male humanoid supreme being. This you apparently accept but do not question. That's probably a good thing because the church authorities don't like to be questioned about the nature of God. They promote blind faith. They have never seen God either. Thats YOUR problem, and assumption, and not mine. Youre not changing my views. You dont know if I goto church, you dont know what I do. You dont want people shoving their beliefs at you, or telling you what you believe, or about your belief, so lay off mine. Oh I think it is safe to assume that the church authorities have not seen or spoken to God in person either, so nobody actually "questions God." I am not trying to get you to change your views. Where did you get that idea? If you don't want to question the church authorities that is your choice; but to say that you "Don't question God," implies and states that you believe God exists (somewhere) and that God is a HE; and it is that 'idea' am asking people to think about. You certainly have a right to your beliefs and I am not trying to get you or anyone to change what they believe. I want people to embrace their beliefs literally and give the "Male Supreme Being" idea some serious, practical, thought. (I am agreeing with you when you say that you don't question God, nobody does.) Now I don't know if you go to church or not but and that has nothing to do with this post. |
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Ive thought about my beliefs just fine, and have studied, and looked into, and learned about other peoples belief systems, and have chosen what I believe after much research, and consideration.
My belief system is not seperate from how I live my life. I live my life happily, and it works well for my family, and I. Peace. |
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Ive thought about my beliefs just fine, and have studied, and looked into, and learned about other peoples belief systems, and have chosen what I believe after much research, and consideration. My belief system is not seperate from how I live my life. I live my life happily, and it works well for my family, and I. Peace. I am very happy for you. Perhaps someone else can answer my questions then.
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I wish I could answer your question..
I don't see God as a man, a human, or even close I do like the questions though.. we all should think more about what we believe and more importantly..WHY  |
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Edited by
Laura10
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Fri 09/04/09 08:08 PM
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Some hard questions about God and Heaven. I just want people to look at the reality of some of the things people are saying about God. If you are going to humanize the "God" concept and claim that God is a male humanoid supreme being who "created" the world --- then I have a few questions related to that and I wonder if you have thought about them. If God is a male humanoid (certainly not a human) does he have male organs? If so, what does he use them for? Does he go to the bathroom with them, or have sex with them? If not why have them? If he does not have them, why call God a HE or a male? Next: Okay if God does use his organs to go to to the bathroom, are there toilets in heaven? If there are toilets in heaven are there plumbers and plumbing? If God uses his sex organs for sex, who does he have sex with. Is there a Mrs God or does he just go around looking for virgins to impregnate all over the universe? Now I don't mean this to be disrespectful really, these questions come up in my mind when I hear people call God "He." and claim that he is a male. God is neither a male nor a female; He is a spirit. We are made in his image. We are spirit beings with a natural body. When our spirit leaves, the body dies or when our body dies, the spirit leaves (depending on the situation). God does not possess physical attributes, but will use figurative language (because for the most part we can only comprehend the physical realm), in order for us to understand and know Him better. He is our creator and our bodies are so complex it is simply amazing! Did you know that the amount of salt in our blood is the exact same amount in the ocean and if it is deviated, life in either would not be able to survive! Wow, I could go on and on, but I am deviating from the question…sorry. He made us with a purpose, as he made every living thing be it plants, animals, and humans. We are well thought out and planned (Psalm 139, Ro. 8:28-29, Eph. 2:10). Some believe that God is both male and female and when He made Adam and decided that he needed a helper, he split them into 2 (they say this is why God says that when husband and wife come together they become one flesh). What I know is that God is a Spirit according to John 4:24 that states, “God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.” He does not have physical attributes but he is a Person. He is a Spirit and has a mind, will, intellect, emotions, and moral capacity and so do we!!! This is profoundly wonderful and this is what is meant when He says that we are made in His image. God did not make any other living thing with this capacity. Animals do not have the same characteristics, especially the moral capacity or the spiritual component that we alone experience. God created us to have a relationship with Him, and we are the only ones with this capability and for this purpose. Let me reiterate that being made in the image of God does not have anything to do with physical characteristics, but with the spirit, mind, will, intellect, emotions and moral capacity! He does not have physical attributes so-to-speak, but He is referred to in the Old and New Testament as the “Father” around 170 times and we know that only a male can be a father. Also, when Jesus was on the earth he referred to God in the masculine pronoun and called Him Father. Jesus even says in John 10:30 that He and the Father are one. When he came to earth in human form, he came in the masculine male form. Male and female are for this life only according to Mark 12:24-26 (New International Version): 24Jesus replied, "Are you not in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God? 25When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. 26Now about the dead rising—have you not read in the book of Moses, in the account of the bush, how God said to him, 'I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob'? The Bible is God’s instruction manual for life and to know Him and all His attributes one must read the Bible and study Him to know what a wonderful Creator made us and to be able to comprehend how much He loves us. He loves us so much that He sent His One and Only Son to die for us so that we would not perish, but have everlasting life! It is a free gift for anyone who wants it! I hope this helps in understanding God better. Blessings  |
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I have no evidence if there is one God or no God at all or there are multiple Gods . However I know that life is extremely complex and the universe is very huge . We live in a world full of mysteries and the existence of God or no god or multiple Gods is here to stay as science can not prove a thing in this direction . Keep on guessing and a very happy guessing...
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Edited by
JustAGuy2112
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Fri 09/04/09 10:10 PM
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Some hard questions about God and Heaven. I just want people to look at the reality of some of the things people are saying about God. If you are going to humanize the "God" concept and claim that God is a male humanoid supreme being who "created" the world --- then I have a few questions related to that and I wonder if you have thought about them. If God is a male humanoid (certainly not a human) does he have male organs? If so, what does he use them for? Does he go to the bathroom with them, or have sex with them? If not why have them? If he does not have them, why call God a HE or a male? Next: Okay if God does use his organs to go to to the bathroom, are there toilets in heaven? If there are toilets in heaven are there plumbers and plumbing? If God uses his sex organs for sex, who does he have sex with. Is there a Mrs God or does he just go around looking for virgins to impregnate all over the universe? Now I don't mean this to be disrespectful really, these questions come up in my mind when I hear people call God "He." and claim that he is a male. In the first place....none of these " logical " questions have any bearing on ANY aspect of faith. The fact that you think questions like that are " logical " and proper, only show your narrow mindedness and lack of ability to apply logic when it comes to questions of faith. You seem to have the opinion that if you can't smell/touch/feel/ speak with whoever ( he she or otherwise ) that it simply cannot exist. However...you cannot see/smell/taste/touch or talk to gravity and you know it's there. Why?? Because your feet stay firmly planted on the ground and you don;'t go floating off into the ether. Why do you believe that gravity exists?? Because someone said so and then created a machine that showed it. Well..we may not have the machine to " show " God as of yet....but science is always evolving and there may come a time when someone comes up with a machine that actually DOES show God. Will you then continue to question it's existence because you can't touch it or talk to it??? It's pretty funny actually.... You are expecting people to question their beliefs...but yet...you refuse to question a belief system of your own that seems to be based solely on science. Has it never occurred to you that science is continually proven wrong by it's own hand??? How can you NOT question it? |
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not sure he is up there any more
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Some hard questions about God and Heaven. I just want people to look at the reality of some of the things people are saying about God. If you are going to humanize the "God" concept and claim that God is a male humanoid supreme being who "created" the world --- then I have a few questions related to that and I wonder if you have thought about them. If God is a male humanoid (certainly not a human) does he have male organs? If so, what does he use them for? Does he go to the bathroom with them, or have sex with them? If not why have them? If he does not have them, why call God a HE or a male? Next: Okay if God does use his organs to go to to the bathroom, are there toilets in heaven? If there are toilets in heaven are there plumbers and plumbing? If God uses his sex organs for sex, who does he have sex with. Is there a Mrs God or does he just go around looking for virgins to impregnate all over the universe? Now I don't mean this to be disrespectful really, these questions come up in my mind when I hear people call God "He." and claim that he is a male. In the first place....none of these " logical " questions have any bearing on ANY aspect of faith. The fact that you think questions like that are " logical " and proper, only show your narrow mindedness and lack of ability to apply logic when it comes to questions of faith. You seem to have the opinion that if you can't smell/touch/feel/ speak with whoever ( he she or otherwise ) that it simply cannot exist. However...you cannot see/smell/taste/touch or talk to gravity and you know it's there. Why?? Because your feet stay firmly planted on the ground and you don;'t go floating off into the ether. Why do you believe that gravity exists?? Because someone said so and then created a machine that showed it. Well..we may not have the machine to " show " God as of yet....but science is always evolving and there may come a time when someone comes up with a machine that actually DOES show God. Will you then continue to question it's existence because you can't touch it or talk to it??? It's pretty funny actually.... You are expecting people to question their beliefs...but yet...you refuse to question a belief system of your own that seems to be based solely on science. Has it never occurred to you that science is continually proven wrong by it's own hand??? How can you NOT question it? I would say that anyone who stops asking the questions is the narrow minded.. these questions that have been presented to us may not be logical but they do give us something to think about. With matters of God (and that being whatever God is to a person) we should all be asking questions. And keep seeking..not just stop asking or thinking because the questions don't seem logical... logic and faith don't always go hand in hand. In most cases that don't line up at all. |
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how do you get the ans if u dont ask the q
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I think a whole lot of a person's belief system has to do with what they were raised with. It is instilled in you from a very early age. If your parents took you to a church that believed when you die you become a butterfly and the wings are made from God's hair then "by God" that's what you will always believe. Even if you discover some other faith when you grow up, I believe that somewhere in you will still be the butterfly concept.
I went to the funeral of a friend of mine who was gay and Catholic. The church was full of gay people also Catholic and known partying hell-raisers. When it was time for kneeling, Lord's Prayer etc it came automatically to all present. |
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Sorry, one more thing...once you have evidence of God then faith is no more. Right?
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i was raised on the new testament but now study wicca
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The best thing I have did for me and my children was dump my childhood religion and seek out a path of my own...the worst thing my parents did was teach me their faith and tell me it was the only one and to take it in faith and NOT ask questions.
I'm really grateful today I didn't listen..I had to completely lose the salvation theory to find spirituality. |
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i think a person has 2 find his or her own path or there will be on faith in what you believe
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