Memorial Day is a day to reflect on the sacrifices and services of our
veterans and courageous military men and women, past and present, who
continue to inspire us by their unwavering courage and valor.

i think you folks need more beer n wiskey there is no glory in war.watt
the hell makes you think god would bless any one who gets paid to kill
other people. i Know a returned soldier here in Australia.served in
Vietnam he hates watt this country made him do he is a begger these days
lives on the streets he is a shattered man i do talk to him an shout him
a drink.

Karizman you don't even deserve a reply, go play in the outback

well that was no surprise! we do a bit of
remembering here in AUSTRALIA.we call it Anzac Day.Aussi diggers. my
name is Fred my uncle is dead his name was Fred.he died at the hands of
the japanees in NewGuinea in the 2nd world war.i see no glory in war. i
have no ill feelings toward the people of japan.i do have ill feelings
when people get all patriotic and start revelling in the glory of war i
remember fallen soldiers i did not meet my uncle .THERE IS NO GLORY IN
WAR THERE IS NO NEED TO GLORIFY WAR IT IS FUTILE.

we are not glorifying war we are remembering our fallen heroes and
friends, I was in Vietnam and I didn't come back that way, most of us
that came back didn't, I am proud to have served my country, and am very
proud of my fellow vets, and yes I am Patriotic to the bone, and you or
no one else can change that and for damn sure no one can take it away
from me.
So you believe what yu want, but don't judge me until you walk a mile
in my shoes, and I don't think you could hang

war stinks and your shoes might stink you were lucky, i ripped up my
draught card .i dont believe in war so why the fuk would i want to walk
in your shoes.you americans are gun toten fools if you think war is
worth the waste of any ones life. war is futile

Awwww Karizan you do need to go back and read the words of what has been
said here. Not only once but maybe twice. For in no way do I or would I
glorify the WAR it's self. For this is in no way praising the WAR
itself. This is about all the MEN & WOMEN that have lost there lives.
They are the ones we are proud of them. For what they did to serve. If
it was up to me there would be no war. No hunger children no cancer it
would all be about loving thy neighbor and getting along with them
instead. But since it is not the least we can do is thank those that did
go and give our prayers to the familys that have lost so much they will
never be the same. So Please this post is not to down anyone for the
choices they made. It is to remember those that have died and to those
that sitll fight in this war.

Kari, I see someone moved the rock covering your hole in the
ground. Alt least you have cleaned up your language a bit. I
apologize for not having the time to lambaste you but I have to go do
some estimates for my customers. Work. You know what that is, I'm sure.
I's Saturday, or as you would know it, shower day, so run along.

we have choices i was ridiculed for mine. soldiers have bled many are
dead. when will people learn war is futile.when the truth is revealed as
to why people have lost there lives in any war it makes me there
has never been nor will there be any justification for war let alone
celibrate the death of ignorant gullible young men who do the dirty work
of puppets we call leaders. leaders are the puppets of corporate
autocrats. war stinks allways will. i dont have enough hate to want to
kill any one . why do we read the writing on the walls in halls and not
hear it and still want to repeat the same old show . war is futile .war
is futile war is futile war is futile GET IT.

KARI...no justification for war?? you would not be living in this great
FREE country if not for the revolutionary war, civil war etc. I guess
you should live in a country that has no freedom and see why people will
fight for freedom.

i got it.










and i agree




tho that may be so, it is also SO that we are still embedded in it.

and that being so, we do honor our dead....every mother will honor her
child whether his choices were stolen or not.

but i honor their life and their conviction and their capacity to
risk.....not what they died for, and i feel an inate sadness for any of
those who survive after the throws of war....

as a mother we are enraged at the explicit exploitation of our
children!! our babies that we raised with love and tenderness and a
sense of kindness and how to resolve their conflicts reasonably and
then we hand them over , to be ridiculed and drilled and worked and
broken and made into someone we hardly recognize anymore...alll cleaned
up in a shiny new uniform...what we've been so indoctrinated to accept
as authority as power...this boy this child in his costume with his new
software on his new reinitialized hard drive..... and he is going to
possibly/probably kill or get killed to satisfy WHAT!!!

we are honoring the man/child that left our arms, that we know somewhere
under all that gear, is the boy we raised to be noble and true

and this was the direction it went....and when enough mothers collect
their tears, and regroup....i have faith this idiocy will end

I am an AUSTRALIAN i live in AUSTRALIA we have not had a civil war we do
not tote guns we are a PEACE loveing nation.soldiers from our country
have been canon fodder for many other countries wars.i hate the war we
are involved in with your country. there is no justification for war
there never has been and there never will. wars only serve greedy
meglomaniac corporate autocrats.

Kari, good morning.

Yes, war is futile for most, though a small group benefit from it.
But that is not the point, here. TxsGal isn't offering a comment on War;
she is offering a memorial to those who fought, were maimed, or died.

Your uncle died in WWII. TxsGal is remembering him and all his fellows
-- not offering a political or moral assessment of War.

Regardless of the validity of the 'cause' that renders them into battle,
can we not remember those who have genuinely offered themselves for the
protection of their lands and communities, families and friends? Can we
not separate, for a moment, people from cause?

I know, you are probably concerned that if we do so we are indirectly
glorifying War, that we are making it easier for the next War to be
undertaken because our recognition of those who fight may lure the next
generation, seeking Glory, into War.

I share your concern, here, and few have been as persistent as I in
these threads in explaining why the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are
wrong on all counts, but I think we can put aside this concern for a
moment, and recognize that most soldiers are there for reasons that have
nothing to do with the justice or usefulness of a War.

They are there because they are believers, or because they are just at
the wrong place at the wrong time, or, for some, because they had few
other job prospects.

Does it matter why? Like all of us, they made the best decisions they
could. And, more to the point, they performed usually well under
extremely difficult conditions, some of which have been described by
others in other threads. Yes, there are the headline grabbing horrible
abuses. But for the most part, soldiers in Iraq are decent people. They
are in an impossible situation, but they hang in there and for the most
part try to do the right thing.

In honoring them for doing so, we do not condone or ignore the abuses.
We do not glorify War. We do not endorse the misguided policies and
selfish interests that manipulated us into Afghanistan and Iraq.

We simply honor the simple humanity of those who fight in the believe
that they do it for their people, communities, and families. We offer a
moment of simple compassion, a moment of generosity of spirit.

We can argue about the larger issues elsewhere and at other times, no?

Oceans

Bless you alex...well said.

i new you would Alex

Kari...fortunately you live in a relatively isolated country but soon or
later the islamic fundamental extremists will try to take over control
of your society...that is there expressed intent ..to have an islamic
controled world... and you won't see it coming because you bury your
head in the sand.Look around the world...its not just Irag or
Afganistan...they are infiltrating everywhere..the Russian
republics..the balkens..Bali, Philippines..Central America..all over
Africa..even in parts of China now...before long they will be inbedded
in Australia....so fight them now...or you might as well go to nearest
mosque and convert now..lol

Searchin, I couldn't disagree with your description of the 'threat'
more, but suggest that we move political discussion to the Current
Events threads and honor TxsGal's intent, here.

Sound good? You are making some important statements. Hope to see you
there.

Oceans

Fred......don't do it!!! lol

God Bless our Troops

oceans there should be no honour for exersises in futility .you carry
guns so ya wanna live by the gun then that is an evil choice for any one
to make and they do not deserve to be honoured for that .your nation has
raped pillaged and plunderd the recources of this planet. all wars are
perpetrated by corporate autocrats and instigated by their puppets the
so called leaders of nations. war is futile and those who paticipate in
war are gullible fools so honour fools go right ahead,support the greeds
of the greedy autocrats of this world.