Topic: Man With Assault Weapon near Obama
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Wed 08/19/09 07:57 AM
Edited by Winx on Wed 08/19/09 08:06 AM



I'm not understanding what is the issue here

some people were legally posessing firarms in a controlled legal manner. No one got hurt. No one was threatened. No laws were broken

What exactly is the big deal?


It's called "media Hype".


ohhhhhhhh I get it

liberal biased, anti-gun, sensationalistic media hype


There's nothing liberal about me thinking that people with guns should not be near our President. I also thought that Bush should have had more protection when the shoe was thrown at him.


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Wed 08/19/09 08:01 AM
Edited by Seakolony on Wed 08/19/09 08:02 AM







What is so wrong with it?
Guns aren't bad, it is the people behind the guns we have to worry about.
Maybe Obama is looking to add them to his own private army when he takes the US under communistic rule.


What's wrong with it? Four Presidents have already been shot and killed. I remember when Kennedy was killed. It was a sad day.

Yeah..of course, Obama could be wanting them.noway slaphead


And the only shooter standing in close proximity to a President murdered was Booth in a theatre in the Lincoln murder. Which I might add was a conspiarcy on the part of the Confederacy, but only one man paid the price. Booth and the Confederacy were the issue not the GUN!!

Kennedy, Hinkley was insane, NOT THE GUN!!

William McKinley, Leon Czolgosz was the issue, NOT THE GUN!!

Garfield, Charles Guiteau was the issue, NOT THE GUN!!

Maybe if the US put all the money from weapon control in mental disorder and treatment, there would not be the need for the GUN CONTROL!!


Mentally illnesses cannot be cured.

I don't understand why it would be wrong to keep people with guns away from a President.

Mental illness may not be able to be cured, as of yet. It can be treated and kept treated. My point was GUNS DONT KILL PEOPLE DO!!

If the President did not wish to be there, OMG, He wouldn't have been there.

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Wed 08/19/09 08:32 AM


This is crazy. They are allowing people to have assault weapons and guns and be near a President.

Man carrying assault weapon attends Obama protest.

By AMANDA LEE MYERS and TERRY TANG, Associated Press Writers Amanda Lee Myers And Terry Tang, Associated Press Writers – Mon Aug 17, 6:22 pm ET

PHOENIX – About a dozen people carrying guns, including one with a military-style rifle, milled among protesters outside the convention center where President Barack Obama was giving a speech Monday — the latest incident in which protesters have openly displayed firearms near the president.

Gun-rights advocates say they're exercising their constitutional right to bear arms and protest, while those who argue for more gun control say it could be a disaster waiting to happen.

Phoenix police said the gun-toters at Monday's event, including the man carrying an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle slung over his shoulder, didn't need permits. No crimes were committed, and no one was arrested.

The man with the rifle declined to be identified but told The Arizona Republic that he was carrying the assault weapon because he could. "In Arizona, I still have some freedoms," he said.

Phoenix police Detective J. Oliver, who monitored the man at the downtown protest, said police also wanted to make sure no one decided to harm him.

"Just by his presence and people seeing the rifle and people knowing the president was in town, it sparked a lot of emotions," Oliver said. "We were keeping peace on both ends."

Last week, during Obama's health care town hall in Portsmouth, N.H., a man carrying a sign reading "It is time to water the tree of liberty" stood outside with a pistol strapped to his leg.

"It's a political statement," he told The Boston Globe. "If you don't use your rights, then you lose your rights."

Police asked the man to move away from school property, but he was not arrested.

Fred Solop, a Northern Arizona University political scientist, said the incidents in New Hampshire and Arizona could signal the beginning of a disturbing trend.

"When you start to bring guns to political rallies, it does layer on another level of concern and significance," Solop said. "It actually becomes quite scary for many people. It creates a chilling effect in the ability of our society to carry on honest communication."

He said he's never heard of someone bringing an assault weapon near a presidential event. "The larger the gun, the more menacing the situation," he said.

Phoenix was Obama's last stop on a four-day tour of western states, including Montana and Colorado.

Authorities in Montana said they received no reports of anyone carrying firearms during Obama's health care town hall near Bozeman on Friday. About 1,000 people both for and against Obama converged at a protest area near the Gallatin Field Airport hangar where the event took place. One person accused of disorderly conduct was detained and released, according to the Gallatin Airport Authority.

Heather Benjamin of Denver's Mesa County sheriff's department, the lead agency during Obama's visit there, said no one was arrested.

Arizona is an "open-carry" state, which means anyone legally allowed to have a firearm can carry it in public as long as it's visible. Only someone carrying a concealed weapon is required to have a permit.

Paul Helmke, president of the Washington, D.C.-based Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said people should not be allowed to bring guns to events where Obama is.

"To me, this is craziness," he said. "When you bring a loaded gun, particularly a loaded assault rifle, to any political event, but particularly to one where the president is appearing, you're just making the situation dangerous for everyone."

He said people who bring guns to presidential events are distracting the Secret Service and law enforcement from protecting the president. "The more guns we see at more events like this, there's more potential for something tragic happening," he said.

Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan said armed demonstrators in open-carry states such as Arizona and New Hampshire have little impact on security plans for the president.

"In both cases, the subject was not entering our site or otherwise attempting to," Donovan said. "They were in a designated public viewing area. The main thing to know is that they would not have been allowed inside with a weapon."

Representatives of the National Rifle Association did not return calls for comment.



What is so wrong with it?
Guns aren't bad, it is the people behind the guns we have to worry about.
Maybe Obama is looking to add them to his own private army when he takes the US under communistic rule.


drinker laugh laugh drinker


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Wed 08/19/09 08:34 AM
The guy with the AR at the Obama event in Phoenix is an IDIOT.

His type of irresponsible behavior with a weapon is providing fodder for those that want to ban them.

His publicity stunt is a big setback for those who defend the 2nd amendment.

He is also a member of a group known as RP4409. If you have not read up on this group or viewed the youtube videos, you should.

They believe taxation is theft and that the moon landing was a government hoax.

They want revolution. They are anarchists.

This stunt could have ended in tragedy.

Idiots.


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Wed 08/19/09 08:38 AM
Edited by Giocamo on Wed 08/19/09 08:42 AM
when's Obama goin' on his fuggin' vacation ?...the country needs the rest...LOL...go away already...I think he just set the record...for continuous days on TV...stumble bumblin' over his teleprompters...GO ON VACATION ALREADY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...take a hike !...sad ...you wonder why the country has tuned him out...overexposed...overdone...over and out !!...:smile:

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Wed 08/19/09 08:46 AM
I was going to pandora and listen to some music before i start my day but keep comming back here--- ONE man in a couple of hundred million??? and the media acts like he's the rep of all us gun owners---For or against--something stinks. OH--I just got a new SIG SAUER 40 yesterday, think i'll go shoot some water-mellons today---everyone have a great day---

Winx's photo
Wed 08/19/09 08:49 AM

I was going to pandora and listen to some music before i start my day but keep comming back here--- ONE man in a couple of hundred million??? and the media acts like he's the rep of all us gun owners---For or against--something stinks. OH--I just got a new SIG SAUER 40 yesterday, think i'll go shoot some water-mellons today---everyone have a great day---


One?

"About a dozen people carrying guns, including one with a military-style rifle, milled among protesters outside the convention center where President Barack Obama was giving a speech Monday — the latest incident in which protesters have openly displayed firearms near the president."

"Last week, during Obama's health care town hall in Portsmouth, N.H., a man carrying a sign reading "It is time to water the tree of liberty" stood outside with a pistol strapped to his leg."

Giocamo's photo
Wed 08/19/09 08:53 AM


I was going to pandora and listen to some music before i start my day but keep comming back here--- ONE man in a couple of hundred million??? and the media acts like he's the rep of all us gun owners---For or against--something stinks. OH--I just got a new SIG SAUER 40 yesterday, think i'll go shoot some water-mellons today---everyone have a great day---


One?

"About a dozen people carrying guns, including one with a military-style rifle, milled among protesters outside the convention center where President Barack Obama was giving a speech Monday — the latest incident in which protesters have openly displayed firearms near the president."

"Last week, during Obama's health care town hall in Portsmouth, N.H., a man carrying a sign reading "It is time to water the tree of liberty" stood outside with a pistol strapped to his leg."



and all you Obama supporters thought he was going to be the " Great Uniter "...all he ended up doing was cause a huge divide in this country...

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Wed 08/19/09 08:59 AM


I was going to pandora and listen to some music before i start my day but keep comming back here--- ONE man in a couple of hundred million??? and the media acts like he's the rep of all us gun owners---For or against--something stinks. OH--I just got a new SIG SAUER 40 yesterday, think i'll go shoot some water-mellons today---everyone have a great day---


One?

"About a dozen people carrying guns, including one with a military-style rifle, milled among protesters outside the convention center where President Barack Obama was giving a speech Monday — the latest incident in which protesters have openly displayed firearms near the president."

"Last week, during Obama's health care town hall in Portsmouth, N.H., a man carrying a sign reading "It is time to water the tree of liberty" stood outside with a pistol strapped to his leg."



Exactly Winx.

Guys like the joker at the Obama event are Anarchists and want revolution. When they use the phrase "Water the Tree of Liberty", they are talking about revolution and spilling blood.

It's only a matter of time before one of these idiots gets out of control and starts something.

I am a firm believer in 2nd amendment rights but I always cringe when I hear of a shooting at a school or and idiot pulling a stunt like this.


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Wed 08/19/09 09:05 AM


I was going to pandora and listen to some music before i start my day but keep comming back here--- ONE man in a couple of hundred million??? and the media acts like he's the rep of all us gun owners---For or against--something stinks. OH--I just got a new SIG SAUER 40 yesterday, think i'll go shoot some water-mellons today---everyone have a great day---


One?

"About a dozen people carrying guns, including one with a military-style rifle, milled among protesters outside the convention center where President Barack Obama was giving a speech Monday — the latest incident in which protesters have openly displayed firearms near the president."

"Last week, during Obama's health care town hall in Portsmouth, N.H., a man carrying a sign reading "It is time to water the tree of liberty" stood outside with a pistol strapped to his leg."



OK OK OK ---I'll turn all my guns in over a dozen!!! That was a lot of bad people!!!--Good thing you told me!! A dozen wow!--anyone say if he got shot at????--- Did the American gestapo round them all up??? a dozen Wow Wow wow----sad sad

Winx's photo
Wed 08/19/09 09:10 AM
Edited by Winx on Wed 08/19/09 09:10 AM
Nobody asked you or even suggested that you turn your guns in.slaphead



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Wed 08/19/09 09:47 AM



I was going to pandora and listen to some music before i start my day but keep comming back here--- ONE man in a couple of hundred million??? and the media acts like he's the rep of all us gun owners---For or against--something stinks. OH--I just got a new SIG SAUER 40 yesterday, think i'll go shoot some water-mellons today---everyone have a great day---


One?

"About a dozen people carrying guns, including one with a military-style rifle, milled among protesters outside the convention center where President Barack Obama was giving a speech Monday — the latest incident in which protesters have openly displayed firearms near the president."

"Last week, during Obama's health care town hall in Portsmouth, N.H., a man carrying a sign reading "It is time to water the tree of liberty" stood outside with a pistol strapped to his leg."



and all you Obama supporters thought he was going to be the " Great Uniter "...all he ended up doing was cause a huge divide in this country...



Where the heck have you been the last few decades? He can only unite those that want to be united, and he never said he could do it alone.

Even Obama knew that some folks would never care of about being united no matter what. As if you now think any different than you did before. Please!!!

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Wed 08/19/09 10:36 AM

I was going to pandora and listen to some music before i start my day but keep comming back here--- ONE man in a couple of hundred million??? and the media acts like he's the rep of all us gun owners---For or against--something stinks. OH--I just got a new SIG SAUER 40 yesterday, think i'll go shoot some water-mellons today---everyone have a great day---


Why does it stink if some people don't like guns? Do you think everyone should be for guns, no matter what?

That being said, it is kind of amusing when the gun guys get all riled up when questioned about their guns. Even the questions I asked earlier seemed to set some people off and I never even said guns were a bad thing.

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Wed 08/19/09 10:37 AM



I was going to pandora and listen to some music before i start my day but keep comming back here--- ONE man in a couple of hundred million??? and the media acts like he's the rep of all us gun owners---For or against--something stinks. OH--I just got a new SIG SAUER 40 yesterday, think i'll go shoot some water-mellons today---everyone have a great day---


One?

"About a dozen people carrying guns, including one with a military-style rifle, milled among protesters outside the convention center where President Barack Obama was giving a speech Monday — the latest incident in which protesters have openly displayed firearms near the president."

"Last week, during Obama's health care town hall in Portsmouth, N.H., a man carrying a sign reading "It is time to water the tree of liberty" stood outside with a pistol strapped to his leg."



and all you Obama supporters thought he was going to be the " Great Uniter "...all he ended up doing was cause a huge divide in this country...


Are you saying it wasn't like that before? That Bush had the country united?

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Wed 08/19/09 10:38 AM



I was going to pandora and listen to some music before i start my day but keep comming back here--- ONE man in a couple of hundred million??? and the media acts like he's the rep of all us gun owners---For or against--something stinks. OH--I just got a new SIG SAUER 40 yesterday, think i'll go shoot some water-mellons today---everyone have a great day---


One?

"About a dozen people carrying guns, including one with a military-style rifle, milled among protesters outside the convention center where President Barack Obama was giving a speech Monday — the latest incident in which protesters have openly displayed firearms near the president."

"Last week, during Obama's health care town hall in Portsmouth, N.H., a man carrying a sign reading "It is time to water the tree of liberty" stood outside with a pistol strapped to his leg."



OK OK OK ---I'll turn all my guns in over a dozen!!! That was a lot of bad people!!!--Good thing you told me!! A dozen wow!--anyone say if he got shot at????--- Did the American gestapo round them all up??? a dozen Wow Wow wow----sad sad


Aren't you overreacting a bit? All Winx has said here was she didn't think people should be near the President with guns. I don't believe that she told you that you need to give up your guns.

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Wed 08/19/09 10:44 AM

Nobody asked you or even suggested that you turn your guns in.slaphead



i know-- sar- caz-um. me thinks-- i still like you and i understand about the guns around a prez and all that--- its just that i got this problem right now--- GAS!!---had Chile and Crabcakes last night and i can't get rid of em---sorryoops oops oops

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Wed 08/19/09 01:22 PM



Where the heck have you been the last few decades? He can only unite those that want to be united, and he never said he could do it alone.

Even Obama knew that some folks would never care of about being united no matter what. As if you now think any different than you did before. Please!!!
Obama's deinition of unite is to make everyone think like him. Keep drinking the kool aid. He is a socialist. As you seem to be.

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Wed 08/19/09 01:23 PM




Where the heck have you been the last few decades? He can only unite those that want to be united, and he never said he could do it alone.

Even Obama knew that some folks would never care of about being united no matter what. As if you now think any different than you did before. Please!!!
Obama's deinition of unite is to make everyone think like him. Keep drinking the kool aid. He is a socialist. As you seem to be.


hmm drinking the kool aid... wow, thought we were beyond those remarks - but guess I am wrong shocked

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Wed 08/19/09 01:28 PM
mmmmmmm kool aid



I agree with winxie that, for the protection of the Prez, they shouldn't allow armed people near him

and at the same time the people were outside the building and the Prez was inside the building

and I can understand how the east coast/west coast journalists would freak out that Arizona would not only allow people to own guns but even carry them around

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Wed 08/19/09 01:32 PM

mmmmmmm kool aid



I agree with winxie that, for the protection of the Prez, they shouldn't allow armed people near him

and at the same time the people were outside the building and the Prez was inside the building

and I can understand how the east coast/west coast journalists would freak out that Arizona would not only allow people to own guns but even carry them around


Arizona doesn't "allow" people to own and carry guns; it simply respects (i.e. doesn't violate) the Bill of rights by restricting their people from their inherent human right to keep and bear the means to their own self defense..

more states should follow AZ's example..