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You know, I find it funny that no matter how bad Obama does something, its a good thing.
But anything Bush did was a bad thing, whether it was good or bad. |
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Guide to International Greeting Customs As you prepare to go abroad for your internship program, it’s worth taking a moment to study up on the regional greeting customs so you can avoid any awkward encounters with new friends and acquaintances. UK: You will not encounter much physical contact in London. A handshake or nod of the head accompanied with a “hi” or “how are you” is all you’ll see here. Australia: Greetings are usually informal, “hello”, “hi”, or “g’day”. In formal situations such as business settings, shaking hands and a “Good Morning” or “Good Afternoon” are traditional greetings. Italy: Greeting kisses are the norm among family and friends. When meeting someone for the first time, you usually stick to a handshake. You might end the conversation with a kiss on each cheek. Some say right cheek first, others say no rule, but don’t go in too hard or you could have a clash of sorts. Spain: Greeting with 2 kisses, strictly right cheek first, is acceptable at all times. France: Within Paris 4 kisses have been adopted as the standard greeting between friends, left cheek first. The rest of France generally sticks to 2 kisses. The bow was nothing but a motion of mutual respect. All countries are different. The "KING" didn't even nod in reply..... where is the respect you speak of? This is getting like totally ridiculous. There is no kings anymore. There is no monarchy except England. It was a show of mutual respect and we should be respectful of other nations, it is our presidents job. Ok, so it is ok to insult the Queen who is monarchy, but we must bow to an Arab NOT King..... makes sense to me! 
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Edited by
AndrewAV
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Mon 06/15/09 07:25 PM
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Perhaps we should be thankful that now we have a President with the sense to research foreign customs and traditions as opposed to one that can't pronounce "Nuclear." It was a sign of respect, maybe Obama didn't think a handshake was enough... Dialect differs in regions of every nation. He had an accent. Get over it. Think Pesci in My Cousin Vinny. He has an accent too. I bet you sound really funny (as would I) to those in the south to whereas, he'd fit in (EDIT* bush, that is). Dialect is no measure of intelligence or capacity. I have to say that there is something wrong with it in the fact he did NOT research the customs of the land, because nowhere is it a custom to bow to another except in mostly asian nations. There have been a lot of shortcomings on the side of foreign actions by this administration. i'm not saying former administrations were any better, but bowing to an arab king shows servitude and obedience. I guess the real question is, did the king bow back? |
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Guide to International Greeting Customs As you prepare to go abroad for your internship program, it’s worth taking a moment to study up on the regional greeting customs so you can avoid any awkward encounters with new friends and acquaintances. UK: You will not encounter much physical contact in London. A handshake or nod of the head accompanied with a “hi” or “how are you” is all you’ll see here. Australia: Greetings are usually informal, “hello”, “hi”, or “g’day”. In formal situations such as business settings, shaking hands and a “Good Morning” or “Good Afternoon” are traditional greetings. Italy: Greeting kisses are the norm among family and friends. When meeting someone for the first time, you usually stick to a handshake. You might end the conversation with a kiss on each cheek. Some say right cheek first, others say no rule, but don’t go in too hard or you could have a clash of sorts. Spain: Greeting with 2 kisses, strictly right cheek first, is acceptable at all times. France: Within Paris 4 kisses have been adopted as the standard greeting between friends, left cheek first. The rest of France generally sticks to 2 kisses. The bow was nothing but a motion of mutual respect. All countries are different. The "KING" didn't even nod in reply..... where is the respect you speak of? This is getting like totally ridiculous. There is no kings anymore. There is no monarchy except England. It was a show of mutual respect and we should be respectful of other nations, it is our presidents job. Ok, so it is ok to insult the Queen who is monarchy, but we must bow to an Arab NOT King..... makes sense to me! Hey, might as well follow suit! When you make up your mind based on if you like the President or not, you can say whatever ya like! |
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Perhaps we should be thankful that now we have a President with the sense to research foreign customs and traditions as opposed to one that can't pronounce "Nuclear." It was a sign of respect, maybe Obama didn't think a handshake was enough... Dialect differs in regions of every nation. He had an accent. Get over it. Think Pesci in My Cousin Vinny. He has an accent too. I bet you sound really funny (as would I) to those in the south to whereas, he'd fit in. Dialect is no measure of intelligence or capacity. I have to say that there is something wrong with it in the fact he did NOT research the customs of the land, because nowhere is it a custom to bow to another except in mostly asian nations. There have been a lot of shortcomings on the side of foreign actions by this administration. i'm not saying former administrations were any better, but bowing to an arab king shows servitude and obedience. I guess the real question is, did the king bow back? That answer would be.... not even a nod! |
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Good Lord. If you want to attack the man, find something of substance to do it about. First it was shaking hands with Hugo Chavez. Now it's bowing to the Saudi king. I don't give a f-ck who he bows to, I care what kind of foreign policy he's going to conduct. Hey Jimmy!! Where's the damn thumbs up smiley.. 
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I still find it amusing that someone brought up something much more benign, about how Bush pronounced nuclear. But the OP brought up something with a little substance, and it ends up being no problem. I love Dems, their hypocrisy has no end.
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I am well aware of that dragoness...but it is customary to bow/nod(women curtsey) to the queen. there are procedures for many parts of the world. i know you said that the leader should follow the customs while in that country. the summit wasn't in Saudi....it was in England. so (except for the Queen) a hand shake would suffice. but he didn't bow to the Queen in her own country like he did to the Saudi leader Has anyone considered he was nervous and flubbed up? Not that what he did was wrong in anyway anyway but maybe he got them confused or something. High profile event and so many different people to remember. I just know it is not a big deal like some want to make it. He was successful in restoring some of our reputation in the world and it is a good thing. |
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Edited by
Dragoness
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Mon 06/15/09 07:28 PM
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I still find it amusing that someone brought up something much more benign, about how Bush pronounced nuclear. But the OP brought up something with a little substance, and it ends up being no problem. I love Dems, their hypocrisy has no end. I would say exactly the same thing about Reps and conservatives...lol |
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well...I just watched the videos of the meeting with the Queen and the Saudi Leader. BHO gave a mere head nod to the Queen and a deep bow to the Saudi Leader. Not sure of his reasons...but I did find it interesting Curious, since when do men bow to women anyway, hell it took centuries just to get respect of any kind. What an uproar of laugher we would have heard from the same crowd if he had bowed to the queen. Rose, do you have the link to the video where he bowed to the Saudi Leader? |
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I am well aware of that dragoness...but it is customary to bow/nod(women curtsey) to the queen. there are procedures for many parts of the world. i know you said that the leader should follow the customs while in that country. the summit wasn't in Saudi....it was in England. so (except for the Queen) a hand shake would suffice. but he didn't bow to the Queen in her own country like he did to the Saudi leader Has anyone considered he was nervous and flubbed up? Not that what he did was wrong in anyway anyway but maybe he got them confused or something. High profile event and so many different people to remember. I just know it is not a big deal like some want to make it. He was successful in restoring some of our reputation in the world and it is a good thing. Gee, it's ok for our leader to forget where he is, I guess it's ok to forget he said he wasn't a Muslem anymore too? What else can he forget and we say it's OK? Our Constitution and Bill of Rights? |
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Hey can I "attack" him for being a socialist dictator who wipes his foul rear end with the United States constitution on an hourly basis? Or perhaps for racking up more debt than all previous presidents combined? Or for lying to our face and saying he does'nt want bigger government while he is growing government at an astronomical rate? Or maybe for causing unemployment to rise to 9.4%? I guess we can sit back and "HOPE" he will "CHANGE". Freedom and Liberty are dying at the hands of a tyrranical well spoken socialist with more CZARS than the Rommanoffs had.
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well...I just watched the videos of the meeting with the Queen and the Saudi Leader. BHO gave a mere head nod to the Queen and a deep bow to the Saudi Leader. Not sure of his reasons...but I did find it interesting Curious, since when do men bow to women anyway, hell it took centuries just to get respect of any kind. What an uproar of laugher we would have heard from the same crowd if he had bowed to the queen. Rose, do you have the link to the video where he bowed to the Saudi Leader? http://www.wikio.com/video/979315 |
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well...I just watched the videos of the meeting with the Queen and the Saudi Leader. BHO gave a mere head nod to the Queen and a deep bow to the Saudi Leader. Not sure of his reasons...but I did find it interesting Curious, since when do men bow to women anyway, hell it took centuries just to get respect of any kind. What an uproar of laugher we would have heard from the same crowd if he had bowed to the queen. Rose, do you have the link to the video where he bowed to the Saudi Leader? it's all over the web boo. and when there has been a queen....it has always been customary. |
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The times, they are a changing.
What will happen if Americans refuse to change with the times? We are a country less than 300 years old - many societies throughout hisroty have not lasted that long. In less than 200 years America rose to a seat of dominance in world power. How long did you think that would last? How did we become America, the dominant? Consider the history. A world where emporers and kings ruled without justice, were equality and human rights had nothing to do with ethical rulership. Those who settled American and those who created its creed, were determined NEVER to be sovereign subjects to anyone and bowing was to any human was scorned and considered an act of a traitor. But what of human rights? What of equality? Ask the Native Americans thses questions. But times have changed and will continue to do so, the world has moved on. We are no longer the dominant world force, what industry do we even have to support such a claim? What value is the almighty U.S.dollar if it is no longer the standard for which trade is equated? We are in depression and what do we have to bring us back to the power and prestige we once had? It is time to join the global community. It is time to worry about the effects of human behavior on the environment, on each other. Why should it matter the form in which respect is given, as long as the communication is understood? We need, now more than every, to communicate with understanding. |
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Bush bowed and groveled also and no one seemed to mind. The sad reality is they own our asses as well as China.
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like I said...I just found it interesting and wonder what the reasons were
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OK, out of respect and fair play, we will, thru the graces of our great leader BHO, bring a knife to this gunfight, just hope the others play fair!
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Hey can I "attack" him for being a socialist dictator who wipes his foul rear end with the United States constitution on an hourly basis? Or perhaps for racking up more debt than all previous presidents combined? Or for lying to our face and saying he does'nt want bigger government while he is growing government at an astronomical rate? Or maybe for causing unemployment to rise to 9.4%? I guess we can sit back and "HOPE" he will "CHANGE". Freedom and Liberty are dying at the hands of a tyrranical well spoken socialist with more CZARS than the Rommanoffs had. Can't say that I agree with you on any of the above, but at least they are substantive topics for dicussion. Unlike the current topic. Another thing that bothers me is the use of this "czar" word. Does anybody's business card actually say "czar" on it? I don't think so. |
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