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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Mon 06/15/09 07:02 PM
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So that is why 15 Saudis hijacked the planes on 9/11, we forgot to bow when they got on the planes?
Guess it was our fault! |
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Judge for yourself Libelblogger Charles Johnson of the once-worthwhile site Little Green Footballs, careless with the facts as ever, has claimed that Bush also bowed to the Islamic supremacist monarch. In reality, Bush didn't. But it is certainly true that Obama is not the first U.S. President to kowtow to the masters of our energy fortunes, and over the years we criticized Bush here many times for doing so. Still, there is enormous symbolic value in bowing to the King, as even the Obama administration is apparently aware -- because now they are denying what plainly happened: "White House: No bow to Saudi," by Ben Smith at Politico, April 8 (thanks to Doc Washburn): The White House is denying that the president bowed to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia at a G-20 meeting in London, a scene that drew criticism on the right and praise from some Arab outlets. "It wasn't a bow. He grasped his hand with two hands, and he's taller than King Abdullah," said an Obama aide, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. The Washington Times called the alleged bow a "shocking display of fealty to a foreign potentate" and said it violated centuries of American tradition of not deferring to royalty. The Weekly Standard, meanwhile, noted that American protocol apparently rules out bowing, or at least it reportedly did on the occasion of a Clinton "near-bow" to the emperor of Japan.... But but but but it was just a bow! It feels odd to throw out common sense and act like everything is fine and dandy. I so wish I could be that easily amused and uniformed. |
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Edited by
Gumbyvs
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Mon 06/15/09 07:05 PM
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So that is why 15 Saudis hijacked the planes on 9/11, we forgot to bow when they got on the planes? Guess it was our fault! Nevermind, it was 15. I can actually put something in google and find the answer, instead of answering with emotion. |
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So that is why 15 Saudis hijacked the planes on 9/11, we forgot to bow when they got on the planes? Guess it was our fault! Nevermind, it was 15. I can actually put something in google and find the answer, instead of answering with emotion. 15 of the 19 were Saudis |
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Edited by
smiless
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Mon 06/15/09 07:11 PM
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So that is why 15 Saudis hijacked the planes on 9/11, we forgot to bow when they got on the planes? We cannot accuse a complete nation of people because of 15 Saudi Arabians. Many Saudi Arabians disagree with what these individuals have done including the leaders of the nation. The CIA commits over 100,000 serious crimes each year. Should we blame the US and all of its people because of it? I don't think so. Peaceful diplomacies is very important at the moment to repair any past misunderstandings to try to keep peace and good business ethnics for the future. |
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Good Lord. If you want to attack the man, find something of substance to do it about. First it was shaking hands with Hugo Chavez. Now it's bowing to the Saudi king. I don't give a f-ck who he bows to, I care what kind of foreign policy he's going to conduct.
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Guide to International Greeting Customs
As you prepare to go abroad for your internship program, it’s worth taking a moment to study up on the regional greeting customs so you can avoid any awkward encounters with new friends and acquaintances. UK: You will not encounter much physical contact in London. A handshake or nod of the head accompanied with a “hi” or “how are you” is all you’ll see here. Australia: Greetings are usually informal, “hello”, “hi”, or “g’day”. In formal situations such as business settings, shaking hands and a “Good Morning” or “Good Afternoon” are traditional greetings. Italy: Greeting kisses are the norm among family and friends. When meeting someone for the first time, you usually stick to a handshake. You might end the conversation with a kiss on each cheek. Some say right cheek first, others say no rule, but don’t go in too hard or you could have a clash of sorts. Spain: Greeting with 2 kisses, strictly right cheek first, is acceptable at all times. France: Within Paris 4 kisses have been adopted as the standard greeting between friends, left cheek first. The rest of France generally sticks to 2 kisses. The bow was nothing but a motion of mutual respect. All countries are different. |
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well...I just watched the videos of the meeting with the Queen and the Saudi Leader.
BHO gave a mere head nod to the Queen and a deep bow to the Saudi Leader. Not sure of his reasons...but I did find it interesting |
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Guide to International Greeting Customs As you prepare to go abroad for your internship program, it’s worth taking a moment to study up on the regional greeting customs so you can avoid any awkward encounters with new friends and acquaintances. UK: You will not encounter much physical contact in London. A handshake or nod of the head accompanied with a “hi” or “how are you” is all you’ll see here. Australia: Greetings are usually informal, “hello”, “hi”, or “g’day”. In formal situations such as business settings, shaking hands and a “Good Morning” or “Good Afternoon” are traditional greetings. Italy: Greeting kisses are the norm among family and friends. When meeting someone for the first time, you usually stick to a handshake. You might end the conversation with a kiss on each cheek. Some say right cheek first, others say no rule, but don’t go in too hard or you could have a clash of sorts. Spain: Greeting with 2 kisses, strictly right cheek first, is acceptable at all times. France: Within Paris 4 kisses have been adopted as the standard greeting between friends, left cheek first. The rest of France generally sticks to 2 kisses. The bow was nothing but a motion of mutual respect. All countries are different. If its mutual respect, then why is the White House denying it happened? |
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Greeting Customs in India and Other Countries
Washing the feet of a guest is a very common custom in most parts of India. By Abhishek Sinha Our planet earth is divided into many different countries which have many different races of people, different customs, and different manners. Each country has its own way of greeting people when they go to another’s house. I am an Indian and I come from New Delhi, the capital of my country, India. India consists of many different kinds of people. There are lots of different religions so there will be lots of different cultures and customs. Unfortunately I don’t know the custom of every state. But I can tell you one thing about all Indian people. Having a guest come to our home is a very big thing for us. In fact some say that guests are like God for them. When guests come to visit, they get a lot of respect and caring from everyone in the family. The first thing we do when the guest is in the home is call every house member to meet the person. Then someone younger in the family has to wash the feet and hands of the guests in a big bowl of water and then dry them. Then we serve food at the table. We make the person sit down first at the dining table. Nobody can start eating food until the guest takes a bite of his share. After he is done eating, his plate will be taken away and he’ll be given one bowl and a mug of water at the table to wash his hands. This custom is not only practiced in India. We practice this customs in the U.S, too. If you come to my house, I will wash your feet too. China is a beautiful country and has an interesting culture and manners. According to senior Caizhen Li, if any guests go to their house they want the person to feel that her family has a good relationship with them. “ The first thing we do for the guest at home is give them something to drink or anything they want, “ Caizhen said. All the younger people in the family have to greet them and show respect to them. For Egyptians, guests are just like a blessing in their house and they treat them very respectfully, according to sophomore Ahmed Heiba. “In Egypt if people go to someone else’s house, they do not enter inside the house until the house keeper comes to the door and tells them to come in," said Ahmed. Guests of any age do not differ in how they are treated. “No matter who comes, young or old a guest is guest,” Ahmed added. Senior Ashley Jurinka said that in American houses having a guest is “kind of a big thing.” She said they respect every guest who visits them. “The first thing we do when a guest is inside the house is introduce ourselves, and then we ask them if they need anything,” she said. She also said that the age of the guest matters. They treat young guests differently from older guests. They usually like to clean the house before anyone comes. “If the house is not up-to-date and someone is already home, then we feel embarrassed in front of the guest,” she said. If the guest is going to stay they also help by carrying the luggage in to their room. More customs that are different. The Queen is different from the Saudi leader Rose. |
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Good Lord. If you want to attack the man, find something of substance to do it about. First it was shaking hands with Hugo Chavez. Now it's bowing to the Saudi king. I don't give a f-ck who he bows to, I care what kind of foreign policy he's going to conduct. 
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Good Lord. If you want to attack the man, find something of substance to do it about. First it was shaking hands with Hugo Chavez. Now it's bowing to the Saudi king. I don't give a f-ck who he bows to, I care what kind of foreign policy he's going to conduct. Ok, his economic policies, his social policies, and how he's gonna destroy heathcare, but this thread is about the bow, not what else he's done wrong. |
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well...I just watched the videos of the meeting with the Queen and the Saudi Leader. BHO gave a mere head nod to the Queen and a deep bow to the Saudi Leader. Not sure of his reasons...but I did find it interesting Maybe, because the Islamic world is where his loyalty lies. |
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Guide to International Greeting Customs As you prepare to go abroad for your internship program, it’s worth taking a moment to study up on the regional greeting customs so you can avoid any awkward encounters with new friends and acquaintances. UK: You will not encounter much physical contact in London. A handshake or nod of the head accompanied with a “hi” or “how are you” is all you’ll see here. Australia: Greetings are usually informal, “hello”, “hi”, or “g’day”. In formal situations such as business settings, shaking hands and a “Good Morning” or “Good Afternoon” are traditional greetings. Italy: Greeting kisses are the norm among family and friends. When meeting someone for the first time, you usually stick to a handshake. You might end the conversation with a kiss on each cheek. Some say right cheek first, others say no rule, but don’t go in too hard or you could have a clash of sorts. Spain: Greeting with 2 kisses, strictly right cheek first, is acceptable at all times. France: Within Paris 4 kisses have been adopted as the standard greeting between friends, left cheek first. The rest of France generally sticks to 2 kisses. The bow was nothing but a motion of mutual respect. All countries are different. If its mutual respect, then why is the White House denying it happened? Oh please not it is a conspiracy too. Good grief. 
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Guide to International Greeting Customs As you prepare to go abroad for your internship program, it’s worth taking a moment to study up on the regional greeting customs so you can avoid any awkward encounters with new friends and acquaintances. UK: You will not encounter much physical contact in London. A handshake or nod of the head accompanied with a “hi” or “how are you” is all you’ll see here. Australia: Greetings are usually informal, “hello”, “hi”, or “g’day”. In formal situations such as business settings, shaking hands and a “Good Morning” or “Good Afternoon” are traditional greetings. Italy: Greeting kisses are the norm among family and friends. When meeting someone for the first time, you usually stick to a handshake. You might end the conversation with a kiss on each cheek. Some say right cheek first, others say no rule, but don’t go in too hard or you could have a clash of sorts. Spain: Greeting with 2 kisses, strictly right cheek first, is acceptable at all times. France: Within Paris 4 kisses have been adopted as the standard greeting between friends, left cheek first. The rest of France generally sticks to 2 kisses. The bow was nothing but a motion of mutual respect. All countries are different. The "KING" didn't even nod in reply..... where is the respect you speak of? |
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well...I just watched the videos of the meeting with the Queen and the Saudi Leader. BHO gave a mere head nod to the Queen and a deep bow to the Saudi Leader. Not sure of his reasons...but I did find it interesting Maybe, because the Islamic world is where his loyalty lies. You wish   |
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I wish I was delusional too, life would be so much easier. |
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Guide to International Greeting Customs As you prepare to go abroad for your internship program, it’s worth taking a moment to study up on the regional greeting customs so you can avoid any awkward encounters with new friends and acquaintances. UK: You will not encounter much physical contact in London. A handshake or nod of the head accompanied with a “hi” or “how are you” is all you’ll see here. Australia: Greetings are usually informal, “hello”, “hi”, or “g’day”. In formal situations such as business settings, shaking hands and a “Good Morning” or “Good Afternoon” are traditional greetings. Italy: Greeting kisses are the norm among family and friends. When meeting someone for the first time, you usually stick to a handshake. You might end the conversation with a kiss on each cheek. Some say right cheek first, others say no rule, but don’t go in too hard or you could have a clash of sorts. Spain: Greeting with 2 kisses, strictly right cheek first, is acceptable at all times. France: Within Paris 4 kisses have been adopted as the standard greeting between friends, left cheek first. The rest of France generally sticks to 2 kisses. The bow was nothing but a motion of mutual respect. All countries are different. The "KING" didn't even nod in reply..... where is the respect you speak of? This is getting like totally ridiculous. There is no kings anymore. There is no monarchy except England. It was a show of mutual respect and we should be respectful of other nations, it is our presidents job. |
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Guide to International Greeting Customs As you prepare to go abroad for your internship program, it’s worth taking a moment to study up on the regional greeting customs so you can avoid any awkward encounters with new friends and acquaintances. UK: You will not encounter much physical contact in London. A handshake or nod of the head accompanied with a “hi” or “how are you” is all you’ll see here. Australia: Greetings are usually informal, “hello”, “hi”, or “g’day”. In formal situations such as business settings, shaking hands and a “Good Morning” or “Good Afternoon” are traditional greetings. Italy: Greeting kisses are the norm among family and friends. When meeting someone for the first time, you usually stick to a handshake. You might end the conversation with a kiss on each cheek. Some say right cheek first, others say no rule, but don’t go in too hard or you could have a clash of sorts. Spain: Greeting with 2 kisses, strictly right cheek first, is acceptable at all times. France: Within Paris 4 kisses have been adopted as the standard greeting between friends, left cheek first. The rest of France generally sticks to 2 kisses. The bow was nothing but a motion of mutual respect. All countries are different. If its mutual respect, then why is the White House denying it happened? Oh please not it is a conspiracy too. Good grief. This respectful couple (the Obamas) are so concerned about respecting other cultures? So why did Michelle "touch" the Queen when England has a very strict "NO TOUCH" policy where their monarchy is concerned?! |
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Edited by
yellowrose10
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Mon 06/15/09 07:21 PM
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I am well aware of that dragoness...but it is customary to bow/nod(women curtsey) to the queen. there are procedures for many parts of the world.
i know you said that the leader should follow the customs while in that country. the summit wasn't in Saudi....it was in England. so (except for the Queen) a hand shake would suffice. but he didn't bow to the Queen in her own country like he did to the Saudi leader |
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