People are often 'surprised' by what they unconsciously manifest.

You're the one who seems to be extremely desperate to convince people of your beliefs.

You cannot 'violate' the law of attraction. It is not that kind of law. There are no 'law of attraction' police.

Why do you think that?

I have said many times, I don't care what you think or believe. I really mean that.

What I write about the law of attraction is for those who have the wisdom or faith to understand it.

It is not for you James. You can believe whatever you choose.

Be at peace with yourself and stop resisting and tormenting over my philosophy. It is mine, not yours. I believe what I say and I am at peace with it.

If you believe what you say, then be at peace with that.

EXACTLY!

And that's preciesly my point. I was actually speaking as a physicist, not as a criminal hoping to slide by an authoritarian law unnoticed.

If you can 'violate' the Law of Attraction it can only be because the law doesn't exist!

That was my WHOLE POINT!

First you state that you just 'violated' the law of attraction if it does indeed exist, and then you state that if you can 'violate' the law of attraction it can only be because the law does not exist.

You contradict yourself and make no sense. I don't get your point at all either, except you wanting to express ONCE AGAIN your opinion that the law of attraction does not exist.

I think I have heard your opinion on that enough already. You can stop ranting now.

Ok, you may have the floor dear.

Preach away.

I've already made more than enough solid points all though this thread for anyone who's genuinely interested.

Let the sermon continue unimpeded.

Have at it.

goodie goodie.

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Its a million dollars if you can demonstrate anything paranormal. This LOA is certainly that, if you can manifest anything then you can win. Donate it to your favorite charity.

The bottom line is you have no control over your reality any more then anyone and that is why you wont win. Not becuase you don't want money, not becuase of any other blather, but becuase this is all made up.

You see Bushi..that is where we differ...you say we have no control over our reality..I say we do.Your feelings are your reality...who controls them??You do!People show up in your reality all the time..who chooses who you will associate with?You do.You are more in control of your reality more than you can ever imagine my friend!You are right now..controlling what emotion you will display on this thread!

I never said we have no control over our reality.

Quote me or speak for yourself.

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Abra, looking back JB has clearly won this round. She has all her bases covered.

She said that you are not the only thinker who's thought manifest, and thus even if you had perfect thoughts and intentions for your plants other people wreck your intentions and positive good weather thoughts.

But she can also criticize you and say that you actually manifested the bad weather yourself by even conceiving that bad weather was possible.

Then she can claim that until you believe it then you can start to bend it to your will. So belief must precede active use.

If you take a skeptical approach you will never be able to use it. Science looses becuase it asks for evidence before belief.

This reminds me of the flavor of Baptist beliefs that where fostered in my mothers family. Everything that happened to you was your own fault, if you had sinful thoughts, or unclean thoughts then you where bringing the devil to you, and he would cause all kinds of problems in your life. The reciprocal to this was if something bad just happened, then you had to have been thinking evil . . . . you could really never win.

Demons, devils, all kinds of evil, fire and brimstone!!!!!!!! But if good happened it was gods work.

Its old mythology with just some terms taken out and made new age. Thats it.

JB has a new religion.

bravo salvator!!!! easier said than done though.

First of all Bushi..I always speak for myself..thank you very little!But I made a mistake after rereading what you wrote...you said "You have no control over your reality any more than anyone else"

Now having owned up to that.Yes..you can have more control over some people.If you are intune with yourself and choose to believe in the Laws of the Universe...you are willingly controlling your own thoughts.As opposed to someone who feels this is all bull(like you)who feels you can not control the laws!

Now please..I have shown you much repsect here..next time you write me...I'll expect the same..otherwise...don't pay attention to what I say!That was me speaking for myself!

I made myself clear, no disrespect intended.

Clarity to some may seem insulting.

Give us a kiss...mwahh...much love then Bushi!

Okay I see where you are coming from.

You are apparently annoyed because YOU THINK that I am claiming to have more control over my reality than someone or anyone else.



So THAT is what annoys you?

If that is your problem then you can rest easy.

I don't have any more power to control my personal reality than anyone else has over their own. I have never claimed to.

The power is anyone's who understands the creative techniques of manifestation. (LOA)

In fact, the only reason I talk about the Law of Attraction to other people is an attempt to perhaps enlighten someone to their own personal power so that they might better control their own personal reality or find joy and happiness.

If you are happy and content with your life you don't need to listen to one word of what I say or let it ruffle your feathers in the slightest. It is not for you and if what I believe (and preach or teach) does nothing but annoy you, then why are you focused on it and resisting it and arguing with it? Would it not be better for you to just pass it by?

Or are you trying to save me from my foolish faith? Or are you questioning your own core belief?

You have no reason to bother with me or my belief or concern yourself with what I am doing or with what I believe. None what ever.

Find your own perfect peace and stop attempting to disturb mine.

Jeannie...I recognize what you are attempting by this thread.You are truly a thoughtful woman.Thoes who seek the advice will find there way here and thoes who don't will ridicule!It's all part of life.Stay strong and keep on keeping on!

You did not understand the law then, and you don't understand it now. So many people want to look for who is 'at fault.' and humans are the only animals on the planet who feel they must place 'blame."

The law of attraction simply states that "Like unto itself will be drawn."

That is what is meant by "sinful thoughts will bring the devil to you and cause you problems." That is just their way of framing it and explaining it (LOA) to children, and even to adults.

I can see that your attitude is baggage left from your childhood experience with this principle and you are still grappling and resisting that idea, otherwise you would not bother to waste your time with it.

I hope you get it all figured out and find peace.

Edit. Im done, too many contradictions.