That is just NOT TRUE.

In fact, its hilarious.

Okay no problem. No biggie.

Oh no it can be called the law of attraction. I was just trying to figure it out in a different sense.

I mean you have those who believe and those who don't and then those who believe at a certain extent.

In the end everyone has to find their own bliss anyway.

I was probably using too much imagination for most peoples taste

I've already conceded a billion times that it's a GREAT philosophy with which to live our lives!

What more does she want?

Of course, I'm keeping the THOUGHT, INTENT and ACTION parts.

I already KNOW from experience if I give up those things really go downhill.

Last night at least I managed to save SOME plants.

Had I done what Jeannie suggested and rejected the weather forcast altogether and done nothing I would have lost them ALL.

I was actually just trying to give a real life example where taking thought, intent, action, and even believing in the results didn't HELP much. I think I would have gotten the same result even if I wasn't confident in the results.

In fact, I have worried about things in the past and they turned out just fine. So worrying and fear doesn't automatically destroy things either. It's all bull.

Sorry.

We just do the best we can do. That's all we can do.

But I agree, having an optimistic attitude is GOOD!

I won't argue with that.

Dear James, again if you had EVER read either of the two books I fondly recommended to you, you would KNOW that "thought" and "belief" and "intention" and "visualization" are all PART OF the workings of the law of CREATION OR ATTRACTION OR VIBRATION OR whatever you prefer to call it.

When I see you pretending to know so much about the Law of Attraction and having such a strong opinion about it, and going on and on about it in the same way that you have gone on and on about Christianity, now I am beginning to wonder if you ever even read the Bible and if you know as much about Christianity as you claim.

Because by what you have said, it is clear to me that you know squat about what has been written about the law of attraction and how it is suppose to work.

So your credibility just went out the window about your so-called expertise on scripture and Christianity too.

Of course you have a right to your opinions. Cheers.

That would be the logical explanation, but perhaps we at one time had different senses that we have forgotten to use. I mean who are we to say what we didn't use them during the ice age. Some say impossible others say that it is possible.

Some agree that our sixth sense that animals still have was something we at one time used for survival purposes. Who knows right?

I go as far as maybe we had a seventh sense like speaking to spirits that look like vibrating, energetic, see through, wavy, and ghostly things. lol

This may have been an ability for us to determine the outcome of each action during the day resulting to a positive experience. In otherwords the grounding of this law of attraction which probably didn't have any name then.

Who knows maybe it is the grounding of shamanic belief systems also or any other ancient religion that was unusual? Imagination at its finest right!

I know, I know sounds like a good clip for a sci fi movie.

Using our imagination has brought us far also you know. Just imagine if humans didn't have the ability to use their imagination. How far would we be today?

Gee, I wasn't aware that my credibilty was yours to throw out.

I never claimed to be an expert on anything. People just keep thinking that I'm an expert because I make so much SENSE.

Thanks for the compliment.

Anythings possible John.

We could all be the taking heads of a solipsistic god who's just arguing with himself.

In fact, there are actually quite a few people who believe that's precisely the case.

I think Jeanniebean just needs to put down anyone who refuses to accept her word as the word of God.

She has even just now toss my credibility out the window.

This could be material for a whole new Goddess mythology.

The Goddess strikes down anyone in her path with lightening bolts of judgement.

If she can't convert them she'll strip them of their credibility.

This is sounding more and more like the crusades.

Oh no not the crusades again!

I am out of here!

I wish everyone a great night and thank you for letting me exploit my imagination for today.

Even if it was a bunch of crap anyway

but maybe someone will have some afterthoughts about it and come up with something great

No, its because you have so many opinions about things you know very little about.

(You became an apparent expert on Tarot cards in two weeks after reading a few books, never having done any actual readings except for yourself.)

You became an expert with countless opinions about witchcraft and shamanism after having read a little bit.

You are a big pretender.

And your credibility only went out 'this' window. You may still have a lot of it with others.

You just made me laugh. You are so funny!

Okay I'm ready for my nightcap now.

Creative, I think I finally get you.

You are so funny.

Or maybe I'm just crazy.

Matter came first.

mmmmmmmmmmmm

So I guess that means that the printing press always existed, even before someone thought about it.

Elegance...

So like a politician when the discussion goes south, go after their credibility.

The only reason credibility was lost with me is because he repeatedly demonstrated his ignorance of what is written and believed and explained very plainly about the Law of Attraction and he still pretends he knows what he is talking about enough to voice a loud opinion.

He destroyed his own credibility, and with me only. I can only speak from my point of view. (You can fool some of the people... all of the time, all of the people some of the time but.. you can't fool all of the people all of the time.)

Everyone has a right to their opinion and I don't care if someone disagrees with me. I really don't care.

But don't try to convince me otherwise if you don't know what you are talking about.

There are certain laws at work in the world..that I don't fully understand.

One is the LOA...or whatever anyone wants to call it.

As a christian, I have seen something similar to LOA , work in my life.

But the differenece is....I call it Faith to Believe .

Not LOA.

But Faith.

Faith to Believe in God and His Word .

Not too long ago,

I needed exactly 150 dollars by a certain time.

I asked God for it by Faith...believing like a child...

and got exactly 150 dollars within a couple of hours.

Not a penny more...not a penny less.

Why ?

I had Faith to Believe in God's Word...like a child.

No questions.

Also....

When A hurricane headed our way, everyone was frantic.

I was calm...didn't even take in a potted plant....

and had perfect peace.

Why?

I knew by FAITH that I would be ok..and did not worry.


The hurricane turned in a different direction.

This happened both times a hurricane was forecast to head our

way.....and both times I felt a peace about doing

nothing......and again, the hurricane turned.

But that was Faith in Me....to BELIEVE.

(and I don't reccommend this unless one has real faith to believe).


I also laid hands on my very sick dog recently, and Prayed

with Faith ...Believing like a little child..Trusting in God......

for my doggie to be healed.

He is healed today...running along beside me once again.

Completely healed.

Why?


Childlike Faith to Believe.

Mixed with LOVE and TRUST in My Lord Jesus.

The only difference between some of what LOA teaches....and my faith is.......

I base my Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ...and God's Word....

Not the universe.


Basically what Jeannie is teaching here on the LOA,

sounds similar to some biblical teachings..that I know works.

Very Similar.

And the LOA speaks of LOVE too.

And Giving.

Point being....

there are laws that are at work...regardless....

that can be applied to work in our lives.

But there are certain conditions and principles that must be

met also..

as this will not work...just because someone thinks it

should...or wants it to.

Thinking and hoping it will work....yet not truly Believing it

will work, won't make it work.

Scriptures even teaches this also.


So..these laws do work.


But.....

there is even a time coming on this earth, where great

signs and wonders and miracles will be also done......

based on learning about these laws at work...and using them...

but the Glory will not be given to God.

But to the Universe.

Just as the LOA is already doing today.


God is the creator of ALL these principles and laws at work.

Yet Man will discover and use these laws..which will work....

and will then think they are gods..and have no use or need for

God.


Even the anti-Chrsit will be able to do great signs and

wonders..as he too will have great knowledge on how to use

these different laws at work,

that God gave us.

And will fool many with his signs and wonders.


Dear Folks here....

In Getting to Know....... Get to Know God.

First.

Not just what God has to Offer.

But God Himself.


Cause all the getting and knowing and understanding about how

certain laws work ...

cannot ever replace man's need for God.

Only God can fill that empty hole in every man's soul....

nothing else will do.


Be Blesed Everyone Now.

Love You All.

So Does God.

Ahhh...

MorningSong, you have just shed 'light' on the topic at hand. Just like religious belief the LOA is a matter of faith, and faith alone.

The belief exists without reason.

I find it hard to ignore the similarities between the two. The authors even(I think purposefully) use ancient religious presuppositions in the groundwork in order to attract those with remnants in thought. Those that go undecided about 'God' but do not believe in the Bible...those are the target demographic.

These laws can be made to work for

anyone....regardless of how one believes.

For instance, if one sows seeds of discord, one shall reap discord.

Not peace.

But discord.


If one wants to reap peace, one must sow seeds of peace.

If one wants love, one must first love.

If one wants friends, one must show himself to be friendly.

If one plants corn seeds, one will grow corn..not tomatoes.

Also....

"As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he."

"It is not what goes into one's mouth,that defiles a man... but what comes out, that defiles a man."

"Life and death are in the power of the tongue."

"We shall have what we say."


See..point is....

These laws can work in anyone's life, even if they are not a Christian.

But it is better of course, to know God also....

Who IS the Giver of these laws at work.

But I would rather see someone like Jeannie...

applying these laws to her life...and seeing them work for her.....

(even if she doesn't believe as I do )...


rather than seeing someone knocking these laws..and making fun

of them.....without even trying to learn and see if they can

work in one's life.