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We're not really alone. 20 some odd other States have or are doing the paperwork to restore their Sovereignty, a prelude Secession. February 6th, 2009 States including Washington, Arizona, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma, Hawaii and New Hampshire have drafted bills reminding the Federal Government of their voluntary submission under the Tenth Amendment. Here is a list of the others claiming their Sovereignty; AL, AK, AR, CA, CO, GA,ID, IN, KS, ME, MO, NV, PA, SC Anybody here posting from Oklahoma?  I am here to tell you Colorado is not considering at a political level at any point. I already verified it. I Colorado is on the list. Nothing can be done to stop them from Seceding, if they so choose. War could stop it Assuming that you got more guns.  The US Military does. Yep..they had the advantage in Viet Nam...how did that work out. Same is true in Afghanistan...(When Russia was a super power they gave up after 10 years)...America ain't doing no better. Iraq?...exactly how well funded are the insurgents there compared to the U.S. expenditures of money, supplies and lives? Guerilla tactics work...it helped the U.S. defeat England... I was simply referring to the biggest (hypothetical ) and most well armed guerilla population on the planet. So Texans are guerilla terrorists?  I think some might be offended by that analogy. It is obvious that your delicate @ss is offended at saying the name of Texas. You might re-read the opening stament....this was never ment to be antagonistic...just a simple search for opinions beyond my own...and after putting up with people like you..I have no doubt...Texas would be far better off leaving you to your angry and malevolent self. |
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I would say have Congress Vote on it. Have all Texans vote on it. Have the United States vote on it. Then use the statistics to determine the outcome. If the majority agree then the secession succeeds. If the marjoity doesn't agree then Texas remains part of the United States. Just a idea. It would be interesting just to see the results if it was done. Sounds fair actually...with the exception of Congress...I say, just put it to the popular American vote...(Just my opinion) I have no doubt that many of the bitter ones here would vote for it. Texans should be the only ones having a say in Texas secession affairs. The rest of the States would only want us to suffer BHO BS with them. The Supreme Court has said that no state has a right to secede
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Edited by
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I would say have Congress Vote on it. Have all Texans vote on it. Have the United States vote on it. Then use the statistics to determine the outcome. If the majority agree then the secession succeeds. If the marjoity doesn't agree then Texas remains part of the United States. Just a idea. It would be interesting just to see the results if it was done. Sounds fair actually...with the exception of Congress...I say, just put it to the popular American vote...(Just my opinion) I have no doubt that many of the bitter ones here would vote for it. Texans should be the only ones having a say in Texas secession affairs. The rest of the States would only want us to suffer BHO BS with them. The Supreme Court has said that no state has a right to secede Ohhhhhhh...that means we should probably just shut up, bow our heads, tuck our tails..and take it up the @ss. |
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We're not really alone. 20 some odd other States have or are doing the paperwork to restore their Sovereignty, a prelude Secession. February 6th, 2009 States including Washington, Arizona, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma, Hawaii and New Hampshire have drafted bills reminding the Federal Government of their voluntary submission under the Tenth Amendment. Here is a list of the others claiming their Sovereignty; AL, AK, AR, CA, CO, GA,ID, IN, KS, ME, MO, NV, PA, SC Anybody here posting from Oklahoma? Where did you hear this? I searched and only found the Republican Liberty Caucus talking about it. I can't find in the Missouri House. Google this. 22 states seeking sovereignty |
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Would we finally get to take care of our borders with Mexico in a more forthright manner? Yeah, I'd have to move out of Texas. I pledged allegiance to the United States and chose US citizenship when I had turned 18. I think it's odd and retarded how in Texas the kids have to learn ALL ABOUT Texas history, as a priority over US History. Although there is interesting enough stuff about Texas, they should focus on all states, not just Texas. Texas has always maintained a false sense of snobbery. I remember some dude in the 80's wanting to build a fence around Texas so nobody else could get in. The joke was, sure, and then someone would fill it with water and let them all drown. And if Texas secedes, they'd HAVE to do something about those aliens since they SUCK our resources and drive uninsured. SKPCG, Where are you from? It's sad about what you're saying about the history classes. My child is learning about U.S. history and world history. even when I was young and now my son....we studied BOTH. Texas history AND US history...as well as world history. why is it wrong to learn about your state??? i would thnk more people would want to know their states history |
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We're not really alone. 20 some odd other States have or are doing the paperwork to restore their Sovereignty, a prelude Secession. February 6th, 2009 States including Washington, Arizona, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma, Hawaii and New Hampshire have drafted bills reminding the Federal Government of their voluntary submission under the Tenth Amendment. Here is a list of the others claiming their Sovereignty; AL, AK, AR, CA, CO, GA,ID, IN, KS, ME, MO, NV, PA, SC Anybody here posting from Oklahoma? Where did you hear this? I searched and only found the Republican Liberty Caucus talking about it. I can't find in the Missouri House. Google this. 22 states seeking sovereignty I did google it. It's not in the Missouri House of Representatives. It find it on Republican Liberty Caucus sites. |
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We're not really alone. 20 some odd other States have or are doing the paperwork to restore their Sovereignty, a prelude Secession. February 6th, 2009 States including Washington, Arizona, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma, Hawaii and New Hampshire have drafted bills reminding the Federal Government of their voluntary submission under the Tenth Amendment. Here is a list of the others claiming their Sovereignty; AL, AK, AR, CA, CO, GA,ID, IN, KS, ME, MO, NV, PA, SC Anybody here posting from Oklahoma? I am here to tell you Colorado is not considering at a political level at any point. I already verified it. I Colorado is on the list. Nothing can be done to stop them from Seceding, if they so choose. War could stop it Assuming that you got more guns. The US Military does. Yep..they had the advantage in Viet Nam...how did that work out. Same is true in Afghanistan...(When Russia was a super power they gave up after 10 years)...America ain't doing no better. Iraq?...exactly how well funded are the insurgents there compared to the U.S. expenditures of money, supplies and lives? Guerilla tactics work...it helped the U.S. defeat England... I was simply referring to the biggest (hypothetical ) and most well armed guerilla population on the planet. So Texans are guerilla terrorists? I think some might be offended by that analogy. It is obvious that your delicate @ss is offended at saying the name of Texas. You might re-read the opening stament....this was never ment to be antagonistic...just a simple search for opinions beyond my own...and after putting up with people like you..I have no doubt...Texas would be far better off leaving you to your angry and malevolent self. I am not angry. I have yet to work up a strong agitation on this thread. I have been stating what I know from personal experience and research. If the people of Texas or some of the people of Texas hate it here so bad, maybe it would be easier for them to do what they tell others to do and leave the country. It is better that then what they will do to the innocent in their state by causing civil war. I personally am proud to be American and would not entertain the thought of losing my citizenship in the name of disliking the government at some level. |
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Edited by
Winx
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Would we finally get to take care of our borders with Mexico in a more forthright manner? Yeah, I'd have to move out of Texas. I pledged allegiance to the United States and chose US citizenship when I had turned 18. I think it's odd and retarded how in Texas the kids have to learn ALL ABOUT Texas history, as a priority over US History. Although there is interesting enough stuff about Texas, they should focus on all states, not just Texas. Texas has always maintained a false sense of snobbery. I remember some dude in the 80's wanting to build a fence around Texas so nobody else could get in. The joke was, sure, and then someone would fill it with water and let them all drown. And if Texas secedes, they'd HAVE to do something about those aliens since they SUCK our resources and drive uninsured. SKPCG, Where are you from? It's sad about what you're saying about the history classes. My child is learning about U.S. history and world history. even when I was young and now my son....we studied BOTH. Texas history AND US history...as well as world history. why is it wrong to learn about your state??? i would thnk more people would want to know their states history I didn't say that there was anything wrong with learning about one's state. We do that too. It's just that it sounded sad that there was so much focus on one state and not equal time with all of the states. |
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dragoness... AGAIN...i think that is the whole point to this thread
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Our government is based on cash, it's not going to be allowed by congress or any level of our government without a fight. Far too much money involved.
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winx...I've been through the school system here and now my son....studying the other states comes from US history...so yes...they do learn that as well. and why not focus one the state you are in a little more than others???? I don't get the problem. I wouldn't have a problem if CA focused on CA history
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winx...I've been through the school system here and now my son....studying the other states comes from US history...so yes...they do learn that as well. and why not focus one the state you are in a little more than others???? I don't get the problem. I wouldn't have a problem if CA focused on CA history And the CA schools I and my kids went to did give a little extra attention to Ca history. |
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I would say have Congress Vote on it. Have all Texans vote on it. Have the United States vote on it. Then use the statistics to determine the outcome. If the majority agree then the secession succeeds. If the marjoity doesn't agree then Texas remains part of the United States. Just a idea. It would be interesting just to see the results if it was done. Sounds fair actually...with the exception of Congress...I say, just put it to the popular American vote...(Just my opinion) I have no doubt that many of the bitter ones here would vote for it. Texans should be the only ones having a say in Texas secession affairs. The rest of the States would only want us to suffer BHO BS with them. The Supreme Court has said that no state has a right to secede Ohhhhhhh...that means we should probably just shut up, bow our heads, tuck our tails..and take it up the @ss.  I dont have a problem with it. I am just telling you the facts. The Supreme Court has deemed seccession to be illegal and thats that. I assume any Governor that tried it would be arrested immediatly by federal officers. But it aint going to happen in the first place.
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winx...I've been through the school system here and now my son....studying the other states comes from US history...so yes...they do learn that as well. and why not focus one the state you are in a little more than others???? I don't get the problem. I wouldn't have a problem if CA focused on CA history And the CA schools I and my kids went to did give a little extra attention to Ca history. shame on you davey for focusing on your state 
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Texas gets back over 80% of the money it sends in taxes to the federal goverment. Thats a lot more than most of the other states. I wish my state got back that much. I wish the federal goverment had invested in my state as much as they have in Texas over all these years. I live in a hardcore right wing state and we dont got ****.
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winx...I've been through the school system here and now my son....studying the other states comes from US history...so yes...they do learn that as well. and why not focus one the state you are in a little more than others???? I don't get the problem. I wouldn't have a problem if CA focused on CA history And the CA schools I and my kids went to did give a little extra attention to Ca history. shame on you davey for focusing on your state I'm so ashamed I can hardly look myself in the mirror. |
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I would say have Congress Vote on it. Have all Texans vote on it. Have the United States vote on it. Then use the statistics to determine the outcome. If the majority agree then the secession succeeds. If the marjoity doesn't agree then Texas remains part of the United States. Just a idea. It would be interesting just to see the results if it was done. I already know how it would turn out here. No go. Well there you go. A no go it is. Next topic please. Just joking
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smiles.....go to your room
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Well, thus far into this dialogue...
I have met people for and against... understand or bitterly empirical.. and a couple of complacent ones who just kind of shot out randoms thoughts with a lot of logic behind them...(I ain't referring to you Dragoness..the "bitterly Empirical" statement was for you honey) I did notice that I did not see any Texans in disagreement. I see it this way...if you are in a car and your buddy is driving like an idiot who is gonna get you in trouble or really screw something up...(govt)..and you say "Pull over man...I will just walk..go one without me" Is that really a reason for such spite?...or should I just put on my seat belt and wait for the disaster I see coming? As far as the "If you don't like this country..leave it" that is exactly what I hope happens...When I gave the flag the finger today when I went to the tobbacco shop..I apologized first..when they rang it up..I gave the finger..so did everyone else in the store. |
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Texas gets back over 80% of the money it sends in taxes to the federal goverment. Thats a lot more than most of the other states. I wish my state got back that much. I wish the federal goverment had invested in my state as much as they have in Texas over all these years. I live in a hardcore right wing state and we dont got ****. in regards to what????? where do you get that from? is it money for refugees or something? |
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