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Topic: Ron Paul
JimmyTheGent Joined Wed 03/25/09 Posts: 1111	Tue 04/07/09 11:35 AM
I wonder if Ron Paul knows that he has become the guru of Mingle2.

Drivinmenutz Joined Wed 11/14/07 Posts: 4290	Tue 04/07/09 02:32 PM
I wonder if Ron Paul knows that he has become the guru of Mingle2.

nogames39 Joined Sat 12/27/08 Posts: 2752	Tue 04/07/09 06:24 PM
Every Gov in the world uses a flat currency. And this proves what exactly?, BTW, it is FIAT. It makes it easier to control ups and downs in the economy better. History has proven this! Yeah, we are seeing that right now. In reality, fiat currency creates the ups and downs. Let's suppose we returned to the Gold Standard. Who would be allowed to own the Gold? Surely, you wouldn't want the people to own the gold, right? Just the bankers? Or the bureaucrats? Who has the right to outlaw the ownership of gold? No one.

nogames39 Joined Sat 12/27/08 Posts: 2752	Tue 04/07/09 06:28 PM
Who would set the value of gold? Again, the ignorance is showing. There is no such thing as the value of gold to be set.

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Tue 04/07/09 07:04 PM
Who would set the value of gold? Again, the ignorance is showing. There is no such thing as the value of gold to be set. And to think. Here we had this nice conversation going on and you had to start insulting another poster.

davinci1952 Joined Tue 04/17/07 Posts: 2750	Tue 04/07/09 07:06 PM
same old same old...

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Tue 04/07/09 07:10 PM
same old same old... What's up Davinci?

davinci1952 Joined Tue 04/17/07 Posts: 2750	Tue 04/07/09 07:42 PM
crawled out from under my rock finally...things the same around here eh?

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Tue 04/07/09 07:44 PM
crawled out from under my rock finally...things the same around here eh? Aren't you a Ron Paul supporter?

nogames39 Joined Sat 12/27/08 Posts: 2752	Tue 04/07/09 08:25 PM
And to think. Here we had this nice conversation going on and you had to start insulting another poster. I am always willing to discuss things, but only in an adult manner. You want to show how gold isn't capable of working, then by all means do. But, instead, you posted "It makes it easier to control ups and downs in the economy better. History has proven this!". This is not true, nor it even attempts to show why would it be true. Interestingly, you strike me as a man who argues in favor of a working man. And yet, you didn't even bother to learn about gold, and why was it that the founding fathers were insisting on gold.

Melaschasm Joined Wed 12/10/08 Posts: 262	Wed 04/08/09 08:36 PM
Let's start at the beginning! How did the Revolution happen? It cost money. All wars do. Who was the chief financier of the American Revolution? I think; After the revolution our founding fathers saw the danger in using Fiat money. It was over-inflated and considered valueless after the war. This is why the consitution makes paper money illegal. (Supposedly) No!!!!!!! Quite the opposite! Rhode Island was the last of the States to ratify the Constitution. Why? Because their farmers demanded paper money.... The First National Bank was Chartered the same year, 1791. Robert Morris was asked by Washington to be the first Treasurer in 1787, (he declined) but he almost single-handily financed the Revolution. This proves three things. 1- We have always had paper money. 2- The founding fathers saw a need for a Centralized National Bank, (Hamilton founded it) 3- That it took until 1787 for enough states to ratify the Constitution and until 1791, and the bill of rights being added for all 13 to ratify it. Number three proves at least two things and that is. 1-That the Constitution never was the perfect document people claim it was. It took 15 years and the bill of rights added before even the founding fathers could reach an agreement to sign it! 2-That the Founding fathers recognized that from time-to-time it may need Amendments added. One of the greatest things about the Constitution is the ability to change it as needed, by super majority votes. Amendments giving all humans full rights no matter the color of their skin are a great example of how an Amendment can improve upon the Constitution. The problem that so many conservatives have with the liberal ideas about a 'Living Constitution', is giving Judges on the Supreme Court the right to change the Constitution to their personal preferences without requiring an Amendment. Conservatives also are frequently disappointed when the Federal Government seizes powers that are not given to the Federal Government without passing a Constitutional Amendment. The Constitution is not perfect, but I have not seen a better way to maximize the freedom of the people. Furthermore, Americans would be much better off if the Constitutional limitations on Federal Government power were more completely enforced.