Ya' gotta' know Paul is seen as a real threat when, just having his sticker on your car gets you investigated.

Religion cannot be put aside on this level because it is a big issue but on the other levels of stuck in the mud, I will give a brief explanation because I am off to bed here in a minute.

Our constitution and bill of rights is designed for a country of lessor population and diversity.

We have a more diverse type of people now and more of a population to deal with. Smaller government is not a possiblity with the larger population. This is one stick in the mud along with the religious issue.

There needs to be consideration in this constitution to include all peoples, gay and straight, religious and non, non gun carryers, etc.... So the constitution must actually grow to include all, it cannot regress nor can we go back to the basics on it.

Good night driven. I will check back into here tomorrow. Be well.

I must read up some more on this man so I can be more specific next time too.

Man, they must be watching my a$$ hard!

turn around...lemme see

If Dr. Paul saw the way that his platform of peace, liberty and obediance to the Constitution gave way to partisan bickering and a article about tolerance, becoming an issue of religion, he would just shake his head sadly and walk away.

Dr. Paul operates in the Republican party, because his ideas come from the Historic platform that the Conservatives have forgotten or allowed NeoCons to brush aside.

For years now, he's been warning this country that we were going to face a huge monetary crisis which very well might end up with the end of the dollar and here we friggin' are.

Dr. Paul is, for the most part, the only politician I believe.

i just wanted proof someone was watching his a$$

i just wanted proof someone was watching his a$$

If Dr. Paul saw the way that his platform of peace, liberty and obediance to the Constitution gave way to partisan bickering and a article about tolerance, becoming an issue of religion, he would just shake his head sadly and walk away.

Dr. Paul operates in the Republican party, because his ideas come from the Historic platform that the Conservatives have forgotten or allowed NeoCons to brush aside.

For years now, he's been warning this country that we were going to face a huge monetary crisis which very well might end up with the end of the dollar and here we friggin' are.

Dr. Paul is, for the most part, the only politician I believe.

LMAO
Im sorry war but this is hilarious.
I was just having a talk with someone a few days ago about the increase in pessimism and increased conspiracy theories going on on the Internet!

You my friend have just demonstrated exactly what I said to them.
In fact your words are almost identical to those I used, and is the root to my chicken-little analogy.
I guess I could have, and probably to avoid the eroding of other posters sensitivities, used the "Boy who cried wolf" comparison.

For many centuries there have been religious Zealots and doomsayer philosophers predicting the world will end tomorrow. Every generation and society has had them.

For a few years, there has been Ron Paul. But, he is not even the first to come along with his Rhetoric about the fall of American Ideology and society.

In fact, I believe it was you who reminded me of others, with more power, who came before Ron Paul with the same agenda. To over throw the US Central Gov and return to the gold standard.

Blah, blah, blah, I think we've held this conversation before, and it so bores me to repeat it again. Especially since it could stretch on and on with neither party changing the others convictions.

Let's back up,
I was just having a talk with someone a few days ago about the increase in pessimism and increased conspiracy theories going on on the Internet!

My answer to them was,

Ron Paul supporters, while few in actual numbers, are completely sold in to Ron Paul's Rhetoric. For years they, like the "doomsayer" philosophers, have waited and listened for the end to come. All the while carrying their banners and declarations with them.

Now, due to the economic turmoil we are experiencing, they believe they are finally justified with their "faith," and "allegiance" in Ron Paul.

It's kinda how a man predicting "the end is tomorrow" might have reacted in NY when the Twin Towers fell.

Felling a mixture of fear, and joy, that their faith in their beliefs have finally came true, they can hardly contain themselves. Ron Paul supporters are everywhere. They haven't necessarily increased in numbers so much, as they have in volume. (Okay maybe a few more in number as they benefit and prey on the general fear the populace feels.)

That will end;

The thought that they may once again be disappointed when the economy recovers, is firing an accelarated increase in the chatter and theories, as in fact the economy is showing signs of recovery.

Eventually it will all level off and the Ron Paul Rhetoric will die down to a whisper once again. Only I believe the Ron Paul supporters will decrease to a level below the mere 2% he enjoys now!

As others come to realize there is no wolf, the sky isnt falling, and the end wont come tomorrow.

From what I read on his site is, he's doing more of a presidential job than Obama.
Up to Date, informative, calling for actions that would benefit the people. Urging people to get involved by making phone calls and submitting protest letters to the Reps and Congress.
If he don't get too danged old and people wake up to the corruption going on from the Top down, he could be a choice Americans, not the Media, vote in.
On the other hand, if Obama and his crew screw up bad enough, Ron Paul could be the alternative to step in and represent the people.

This is the first one I clicked on:

The War on Religion

by Rep. Ron Paul, MD
by Rep. Ron Paul, MD



As we celebrate another Yuletide season, it’s hard not to notice that Christmas in America simply doesn’t feel the same anymore. Although an overwhelming majority of Americans celebrate Christmas, and those who don’t celebrate it overwhelmingly accept and respect our nation’s Christmas traditions, a certain shared public sentiment slowly has disappeared. The Christmas spirit, marked by a wonderful feeling of goodwill among men, is in danger of being lost in the ongoing war against religion.

Through perverse court decisions and years of cultural indoctrination, the elitist, secular Left has managed to convince many in our nation that religion must be driven from public view. The justification is always that someone, somewhere, might possibly be offended or feel uncomfortable living in the midst of a largely Christian society, so all must yield to the fragile sensibilities of the few. The ultimate goal of the anti-religious elites is to transform America into a completely secular nation, a nation that is legally and culturally biased against Christianity.

This growing bias explains why many of our wonderful Christmas traditions have been lost. Christmas pageants and plays, including Handel’s Messiah, have been banned from schools and community halls. Nativity scenes have been ordered removed from town squares, and even criticized as offensive when placed on private church lawns. Office Christmas parties have become taboo, replaced by colorless seasonal parties to ensure no employees feel threatened by a “hostile environment.” Even wholly non-religious decorations featuring Santa Claus, snowmen, and the like have been called into question as Christmas symbols that might cause discomfort. Earlier this month, firemen near Chicago reluctantly removed Christmas decorations from their firehouse after a complaint by some embittered busybody. Most noticeably, however, the once commonplace refrain of “Merry Christmas” has been replaced by the vague, ubiquitous “Happy Holidays.” But what holiday? Is Christmas some kind of secret, a word that cannot be uttered in public? Why have we allowed the secularists to intimidate us into downplaying our most cherished and meaningful Christian celebration?

The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers. On the contrary, our Founders’ political views were strongly informed by their religious beliefs. Certainly the drafters of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, both replete with references to God, would be aghast at the federal government’s hostility to religion. The establishment clause of the First Amendment was simply intended to forbid the creation of an official state church like the Church of England, not to drive religion out of public life.

The Founding Fathers envisioned a robustly Christian yet religiously tolerant America, with churches serving as vital institutions that would eclipse the state in importance. Throughout our nation’s history, churches have done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility. Moral and civil individuals are largely governed by their own sense of right and wrong, and hence have little need for external government. This is the real reason the collectivist Left hates religion: Churches as institutions compete with the state for the people’s allegiance, and many devout people put their faith in God before their faith in the state. Knowing this, the secularists wage an ongoing war against religion, chipping away bit by bit at our nation’s Christian heritage. Christmas itself may soon be a casualty of that war.


December 30, 2003

Dr. Ron Paul is a Republican member of Congress from Texas.

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There is no attack on religion in this country, if religion would step back into the place it belongs in, at home.

Religion has overstepped it's boundaries in this country for far too long.

People do not mind that people want to have religion at home but they want people to respect that not everyone is religious or has the same religion that they do.

Christians will not even recognize that Christmas was a pagan holiday before it was a Christian one and that not everyone wants to celebrate it as Christmas. They won't even accept a comprimise of respecting everyone by saying Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas because they are so used to being allowed cart blanc in this country.

Ron Paul buys into this because he is too far right for the average American.

Here are a couple questions for Fanta.

Pelosi is pushing for Amnesty. In the works again, is the Dream Act. This Act is aimed at getting a foot in the door, using kids to gain sympathy for the Illegal.

You have made the statement that Amnesty will never happen. BHO is for Amnesty, speaking through Pelosi.

Question. Will you continue supporting BHO when the big push for Amnesty gets rolling?

Ron Paul is strictly against Illegal Immigration and wants our Laws enforced.

Question.
Do you support that view?

Still waiting to see if I can get a straight answer.