watch out that face is gonna stick on ya. oh and by the way thank you for adding the bulk of what you have learned about any of this on your post.

I am very tolerant with your views.
I listened a few time, tried to discuss them rationally with you, then when you insisted on staying course and began insulting other posters I brushed them off as a waste of time.

Have you ever heard the saying, "when in Rome, do as the Romans do?"
Quite frankly,
I don't think you deserve that kind of respect.

I have better things to do with my time than try to convince you that the sky isn't falling.

But I bet you'd rather I just leave the threads to yours and your friends opinions and conspiracies!

Psst, its not going to happen. I can talk respectfully, or go ghetto with you any day!

Your choice!

Im not that religous.
I wont just turn the other cheek!

that is right keep posting the conspiricies and the sky will fall.
With the devout blessings of Morningsongs and the combined brotherhood of mirrormirror and theshortelktonman I come to you now follow blindlessly and ignorant to the truth as we lead you to a politcal revolution. John F Reagan and Ronald Kennedy will lead us against the Nazi, communist, socialist, baby killing, canaibals, who support the Hamas Al Queada jihad liberation terrorist movement of South Korea Indochina. Come and follow with relentless compassion and hate those not like us and kill in the name of him who shall not be seen. It doesn't have to make sense I just got to stay course with it no matter what anybody else says.

you have never, not even one time tried to discuss my views, you only attacked them from the very first day i started on this forum. ask rose, i emailed her about it. not one time have you even tried to discuss it intelligently. you put me on the defensive right off the bat with little phrases such as "chicken little" and "the sky is falling" that is an offensive tactic, that once you say it enough times others get on the band wagon. there is nothing fair about it. but if all of this is because i came into your little hen house which you have ruled for close to 2 and a half years now. i know how it works, come in low and wound em before they can come on and actually take your spot. it's classic because i wasn't expecting you to do that so i had no defense for it. but that's ok, because i have taught some people on here despite your little below the waste maneuver.

hey...don't bring me into this. i know how you take things t2 and how you felt. i just tried to calm it down a little

T2D

T2....i tried to help you out in the beginning....but when you started bashing people but yet complained that others where picking on you....i let it go. not to mention when you blamed me for other peoples actions

I have experienced this myself, and I have know these tactics for very long.

But, my friend, you can't allow yourself to pay attention to it. Keep yourself where you belong. Do only what is honorable and right.

As for those who fight as weak, do not allow them to drag yourself to their level, as there, they will beat you with sheer experience.

Considering I was in the transition of graduating high school and entering college when Reagan had become president, my economic concerns/thoughts for the country were elsewhere at the time. It's my belief and understanding that most if not all administrations going back as far as Roosevelt (the most noteable) have employed Keynesian principles to one degree or another (in regards to government intervention in business and markets to provide stability). In very limited cases, I would agree this is necessary (E.G. AIG). My opposition lies in the priciples of "nationalization" (even limited)of certain institutions and a unshakeable belief in "supply and demand" without subsidization (and intereference). So safe to say in matters of economics I'm non-partisan. I support whatever person/party that seeks to steal and interfere with my economic interests the least. Yes, I operate under the delusion that it's entrepreneurs who actually control (or should control) the economic engine/conditions that drives this country and not politicians. If I were truly partisan, I would point and laugh at the Dow-Jones and say "This is businesses response to the Obama/Geitner plan", but know that wouldn't be completely honest.

I couldn't agree more with your "Bigger Fool Theory" observation (and disappointed with myself for not thinking of that analogy myself). The best description to date in my opinion, great call. I would agree, great instincts are imperative to success in any business venture (there is much truth to the saying "it's better to be lucky (intuitive) than smart"). My realm is in manufacturing (with an online database side business, and a few profitable hobbies as well). Small business entrepreneurs like ourselves understand and accept the natural cycles of business, it's the job of people like brokers to convince "investors" these things don't ever occur. I believe sometimes it's best not to do anything (as in letting businesses succeed or fail on their own merits) and like water will seek it's own level (basically a Thomas Sowell/Walter E. Williams philosophy).

"Profitless Prosperity" says it all and I can't find one single flaw in your assertions. What compounds the problem in my opinion we have the weasels (politicians) guarding the chicken coop as well (protectors of nest eggs). The only way I can see an individual prospering, is to control ones own investments as much as possible (it's that pesky assumption of personal responsibility indocrination kicking in again). Legalized theft has been accepted for so long, it almost becomes a non-issue to some... welcomed by others who believe they will benefit/profit in some way (at the cost of those who strive for personal success).

Thanks for the laugh in your last paragraph. In all seriousness though- I believe you're really on to something there. Great post! Here's to wealth and prosperity built upon our own merits.

A little off topic but I'd be curious to hear your input on the following hypothetical situation. You own a manufacturing facility in the US. You've already jumped through the plethora of hoops to comply with a multitude of governmental alphabet agencies (from local to the federal level) and deal with all typical business concerns and are well established. You believe the successful business you started with your own capital and literally with your own two hands is being threatened (E.G. further government regulations/restrictions/demands, employees wanting to unionize, ect.). You were presented with an opportunity to have your product manufactured overseas or south of the border. What would you do and why?

You're not welcome.

Yep, he bashes people. They don't even need to provoke him. All they have to do is have a different opinion than his.

BUT.....

im thinking that I have learned much on these forums...
and that is through the intelligence of people like T2D, nogames, drivemenutz, willing2, raiderfan, beeorganic seems very intelligent and extermely witty......

these guys all seriously want to teach others..and dont seem strongly affiliated with either politcal side.


people cant attack eachother for low blows...when THEY do the same. its ridiculous.

only winx is exempt. Ive never seen her attach ANYONE

yes winx is special that way lol

but there is more to it than meets the eye (behind the scenes)

i just have no patience for certain types of people.

good thing i didn't think that way when i tried to help you

sorry....this has gone way off topic. i apologize for my rant

i knew i always like you catwoman.

nogames you are right, it just takes some time to get use to when you've never dealt with people that purposefully try to disinformationalize something. but i'm learning.