That being said - there isn't a single person walking this planet who isn't delusional, for I defy you to live your life without faith in the fact that you'll even get up in the morning.

Without faith - we would be a planet of walking, delusional paranoid zombies incapable of functioning on any level in society.

well dear funches......

there only be one conclusion, that delusion come from illusion, that see visions of collusion, that see great confusion, that grow into contusion, from a story of infusion, to create a fusion, that only a day of profusion, that create a new conclusion, that unviel the first delusion, that was first illusion, that perceieved collusion, that grew the contusion, can clear up the confusion, to allow for infusion, of but pure fusion.......

how rude part 2

"JennieBean" ...as usual you are having flashbacks of Star Trek (kirk, spock) ...and of course I will tell you which episode of Star Trek that you saw the holy ghost on

it was the episode called "The Companion"

JennieBean...you are such a Trekkie

I like the next generation where the ship's psychologist Deanna Troi has a baby by immaculate conception.

hey you remember the look on Riker's face when he found out she was carrying the baby Jesus ...I wonder if Joseph had that same look with Mary

Some time ago I was speaking at a university in England, when a rather exasperated person in the audience made his attack upon God.

“There cannot possibly be a God,” he said, “with all the evil and suffering that exists in the world!”

I asked, “When you say there is such a thing as evil, are you not assuming that there is such a thing as good?”

“Of course,” he retorted.

“But when you assume there is such a thing as good, are you not also assuming that there is such a thing as a moral law on the basis of which to distinguish between good and evil?”

“I suppose so,” came the hesitant and much softer reply.

“If, then, there is a moral law,” I said, “you must also posit a moral law giver. But that is who you are trying to disprove and not prove. If there is no transcendent moral law giver, there is no absolute moral law. If there is no moral law, there really is no good. If there is no good there is no evil. I am not sure what your question is!”

There was silence and then he said, “What, then, am I asking you?”

He was visibly jolted that at the heart of his question lay an assumption that contradicted his own conclusion.

You see friends, the skeptic not only has to give an answer to his or her own question, but also has to justify the question itself. And even as the laughter subsided I reminded him that his question was indeed reasonable, but that his question justified my assumption that this was a moral universe. For if God is not the author of life, neither good nor bad are meaningful terms.

This seems to constantly elude the critic who thinks that by raising the question of evil, a trap has been sprung to destroy theism. When in fact, the very raising of the question ensnares the skeptic who raised the question. A hidden assumption comes into the open. Moreover, as C. S. Lewis reminds us, the moment we acknowledge something as being “better”, we are committing ourselves to an objective point of reference.

The disorienting reality to those who raise the problem of evil is that the Christian can be consistent when he or she talks about the problem of evil, while the skeptic is hard-pressed to respond to the question of good in an amoral universe. In short, the problem of evil is not solved by doing away with the existence of God; the problem of evil and suffering must be resolved while keeping God in the picture.

How can we possibly justify differentiating between good and bad merely on the basis of feeling? Whose feeling? Hitler’s or Mother Theresa’s? There must be a transcendent moral law, a standard by which to determine good and bad. Without such a point of reference, the question of evil is no longer coherent. Removing God, the giver of the moral law, from the question of evil, in essence, blunts the force of the question.

a moral law giver that doesn't follow the moral law would be considered as being evil

one of those Laws are "Thou Shalt Not Kill" but yet God kills and even take it upon himself to kill the innocent that has not broken any moral laws ..this would be a definition of evil

I have not expressed any hate toward what you believe Krimsa, in fact I have agreed with you at times and changed my position.

That being said - there isn't a single person walking this planet who isn't delusional, for I defy you to live your life without faith in the fact that you'll even get up in the morning.

Without faith - we would be a planet of walking, delusional paranoid zombies incapable of functioning on any level in society.