Topic: Tell me what you think
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Fri 01/30/09 08:31 AM



Is the Christian faith intellectual nonsense? Are Christians deluded?


sorry but Christian have not cornered the market on delusion ..all faiths no matter the religion or the demonination or the philosophy are delusional ....

faith is the practice of willingly placing oneself into a state of delusion




That being said - there isn't a single person walking this planet who isn't delusional, for I defy you to live your life without faith in the fact that you'll even get up in the morning.

Without faith - we would be a planet of walking, delusional paranoid zombies incapable of functioning on any level in society.


and since man was limited with NOT ENOUGHT DATA, to purpose what MAN ITSELF KNEW NOT HOW TO CREATE, but still creating it anyhow in all process's by subconscious guide alone, then delusion last not past these days, and mankind shall enter the state of zombies you declare elijay, only for the purpose of REMOVING WHAT WAS HUSK, to leave only the KERNAL.......


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Fri 01/30/09 08:55 AM



Is the Christian faith intellectual nonsense? Are Christians deluded?


sorry but Christian have not cornered the market on delusion ..all faiths no matter the religion or the demonination or the philosophy are delusional ....

faith is the practice of willingly placing oneself into a state of delusion




yea funches, but it be only one that will itself to no delusion, having most only faith in itself, that make self led unto delsusion, by not allowing the voice of all others to be combined into one, that show what is not delusion???


"DavidBen" ..one would only need faith if they doubt their own existence ...and to doubt one's own existence is delusional

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Fri 01/30/09 09:38 AM
Edited by Jill298 on Fri 01/30/09 09:45 AM

That being said - there isn't a single person walking this planet who isn't delusional, for I defy you to live your life without faith in the fact that you'll even get up in the morning.

Without faith - we would be a planet of walking, delusional paranoid zombies incapable of functioning on any level in society.


That is absolutly not true. I can't even find the words to express my loathing for that type of mentality.

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Fri 01/30/09 09:45 AM

If you think you live your life without faith - you're delusional.

Faith is not what wakes me up in the morning. Faith doesn't pay my bills, I do. My car starts in the morning because I keep it in good running condition. When it doesn't start, I take it to a mechanic that fixes it. None of these are about faith.
Do I know for sure I will wake up tomorrow morning? Nope. I probably will tho because I'm a healthy middle aged adult.

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Fri 01/30/09 10:07 AM




Is the Christian faith intellectual nonsense? Are Christians deluded?


sorry but Christian have not cornered the market on delusion ..all faiths no matter the religion or the demonination or the philosophy are delusional ....

faith is the practice of willingly placing oneself into a state of delusion




yea funches, but it be only one that will itself to no delusion, having most only faith in itself, that make self led unto delsusion, by not allowing the voice of all others to be combined into one, that show what is not delusion???


"DavidBen" ..one would only need faith if they doubt their own existence ...and to doubt one's own existence is delusional


YEA? are you sure funches???

think of it my brother???

one CANNOT EVEN BIGIN TO SEE WHAT IT SEEK TILL IT CONSIDER ITSELF AS TO NOT EXIST, AS THEN "IT" ONLY SEE OTHERS???

if and of actually SEE OTHERS, THEN IT SEE ALL TRUTH???

as what more complete ONE, the seeing ITSELF thru the eyes of EACH IT MEET, AND HOW DEAR FRIEND DOES ONE PROPOSE TO DO THIS, IF ONE STILL EXIST, BY SIMPLY "THINKING" WHEN ANOTHER SPEAK BACK???

it is so simple and indeed confound the mind, as it was always said thru time to do?>?

the hyroglifics of the truth are just that???

self existence then only see others as A MIRROR OPPOSITE OF SELF, and no man that look INTO THE MIRROR OF HAMANITY NOT EXISTING, FIND THE HOLY GRAIL ALL HUMANITY ALSO VEILED, but if the self DOES NOT EXIT, there be no veil???

the same as to say, BUT MY WILL, BUT YOURS???

for if one beleive not in god, that no problem, man is the highest speicies known, so then man can be the gods, as god only means greatest KNOWN THING RIGHT???

the is only one perfect, and it be "pro cess", which can only be defined as all that is happening???

which then lead unto seperating REALITY into two seperate CATEGORIES FIRST, then DIVIDING REALITY, WHICH LIMIT POSSIBILITY IN THE VERY INCEPTION OF WHAT IS MOST SIGHT, WHICH LEAD UNTO DELUSION???

what is DELUSION MORE THAN STARING AT DEFINITIONS OF REALITY, as this make reality to be one certain thing or things???

so what more create delusion except FIRST HEARING "SOME THINGS "MAY NOT BE REALITY???

these are not things of some religion, but certainly are contained within them as well, and if one even seek a religion, or a state of belief, is this not first then what lead into "definitions of reality", which is only what these things are???

come one man, that **** ain't gonna go away except more KNOWING, AND KNOWING IT NOT DISPROVING EVERY WORD HEARD???

that my friend is the GREATEST DECEPTION UNTO DELUSION OF THE EAR, SO THEN THE EYES, SO THEN THE SELF, SO THEN THE EMOMTIONAL DEATH CALLED HELL???

hey man, but if hell ain't nothin more than ****ing just admitting what the hell onself is, that that ain't so ****ing bad!!!

so get on with FUNCHES, WHAT ARE WAITIN ON???

an invitation from the devil or something???

oh yea, i forgot, the devil is just anything that has lived as if facing backwards, looking into past time, and this be the memory???

THE BOOGIE NAILED TO THE WALL WITH IT'S OWN SELF???

for yea, have you not heard about the opening of the books of life???

has you not heard this was HUMAN MEMORY???

is it not just MEMORY THAT CREATE THE ILLUSION UNTO DELUSION OF WHAT IS MORE REAL???

peace dear boy.......

i respect your logic, why not you mine, as my logic did not come without yours, so it is mine only because you gave it to me, and you gave it to me by me listening to you, and me listening to you i did not do with my pride, and what i did not do with my pride, these things are what one seek to find, and when one find what it seek, it now have it's guide, to divide the find and reveal what hides???



and if one believe in god, then no problem, each religion that say it's god does not say all are first children, deny the wery written words of their own religion, thif one believe in god,


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Fri 01/30/09 10:09 AM

one CANNOT EVEN BIGIN TO SEE WHAT IT SEEK TILL IT CONSIDER ITSELF AS TO NOT EXIST, AS THEN "IT" ONLY SEE OTHERS???

if and of actually SEE OTHERS, THEN IT SEE ALL TRUTH???

as what more complete ONE, the seeing ITSELF thru the eyes of EACH IT MEET, AND HOW DEAR FRIEND DOES ONE PROPOSE TO DO THIS, IF ONE STILL EXIST, BY SIMPLY "THINKING" WHEN ANOTHER SPEAK BACK???

what??

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Fri 01/30/09 10:25 AM


one CANNOT EVEN BIGIN TO SEE WHAT IT SEEK TILL IT CONSIDER ITSELF AS TO NOT EXIST, AS THEN "IT" ONLY SEE OTHERS???

if and of actually SEE OTHERS, THEN IT SEE ALL TRUTH???

as what more complete ONE, the seeing ITSELF thru the eyes of EACH IT MEET, AND HOW DEAR FRIEND DOES ONE PROPOSE TO DO THIS, IF ONE STILL EXIST, BY SIMPLY "THINKING" WHEN ANOTHER SPEAK BACK???

what??


what? to question what is???

if one has not come to rely on self to decide what is yet, then self only rely on others, and if one rely on others to decipher words, then one rely on others to define what is reality, as all words show a piece of reality, so these words i paint in your small reality, that only see what it think make itself smart, which make it first think "what" is a smart word, that one never ask for to know, as if one cannot disect even something from nothing, then oneself is still nothing of it's true potential, so live by sight within small rooms with only one view???


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Fri 01/30/09 10:26 AM
That made absolutly no sense.

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Fri 01/30/09 10:38 AM

That made absolutly no sense.


you have not aquired much sense???

that make more sense??

now there are two sense, as two both totally knowing that you could care less what it said be the only reason you do not wish to read???

if my 11 year old can read it, this be the only good knowing for me???


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Fri 01/30/09 10:44 AM





Is the Christian faith intellectual nonsense? Are Christians deluded?


sorry but Christian have not cornered the market on delusion ..all faiths no matter the religion or the demonination or the philosophy are delusional ....

faith is the practice of willingly placing oneself into a state of delusion




yea funches, but it be only one that will itself to no delusion, having most only faith in itself, that make self led unto delsusion, by not allowing the voice of all others to be combined into one, that show what is not delusion???


"DavidBen" ..one would only need faith if they doubt their own existence ...and to doubt one's own existence is delusional


YEA? are you sure funches???

think of it my brother???


"DavidBen"....can you explain how I can think about it if I didn't exist? ...


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Fri 01/30/09 10:44 AM


That made absolutly no sense.


you have not aquired much sense???

that make more sense??

now there are two sense, as two both totally knowing that you could care less what it said be the only reason you do not wish to read???

if my 11 year old can read it, this be the only good knowing for me???




I like you davidben.

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Fri 01/30/09 10:55 AM


That made absolutly no sense.


you have not aquired much sense???

that make more sense??

now there are two sense, as two both totally knowing that you could care less what it said be the only reason you do not wish to read???

if my 11 year old can read it, this be the only good knowing for me???


the problem lies not in the reading...but in the translation

Jill298's photo
Fri 01/30/09 10:59 AM


That made absolutly no sense.


you have not aquired much sense???

that make more sense??

now there are two sense, as two both totally knowing that you could care less what it said be the only reason you do not wish to read???

if my 11 year old can read it, this be the only good knowing for me???


I didn't say I couldn't read it. I am not illiterate nor am I a moron. I do however know how to make sentences which is apparently a skill you should aquire. I do not appreciate you comparing me to an 11 year old.

Jill298's photo
Fri 01/30/09 10:59 AM



That made absolutly no sense.


you have not aquired much sense???

that make more sense??

now there are two sense, as two both totally knowing that you could care less what it said be the only reason you do not wish to read???

if my 11 year old can read it, this be the only good knowing for me???


the problem lies not in the reading...but in the translation
Thank you.

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Fri 01/30/09 11:12 AM



That made absolutly no sense.


you have not aquired much sense???

that make more sense??

now there are two sense, as two both totally knowing that you could care less what it said be the only reason you do not wish to read???

if my 11 year old can read it, this be the only good knowing for me???




I like you davidben.


"Nubby" ..I bet he reminds you of the visiting philosopher from Oxford you were talking about

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Fri 01/30/09 11:15 AM




That made absolutly no sense.


you have not aquired much sense???

that make more sense??

now there are two sense, as two both totally knowing that you could care less what it said be the only reason you do not wish to read???

if my 11 year old can read it, this be the only good knowing for me???




I like you davidben.


"Nubby" ..I bet he reminds you of the visiting philosopher from Oxford you were talking about




Funny, Ravi Zacharias is compared to the Oxford and Cambridge don C.S. Lewis.

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Fri 01/30/09 11:23 AM





That made absolutly no sense.


you have not aquired much sense???

that make more sense??

now there are two sense, as two both totally knowing that you could care less what it said be the only reason you do not wish to read???

if my 11 year old can read it, this be the only good knowing for me???




I like you davidben.


"Nubby" ..I bet he reminds you of the visiting philosopher from Oxford you were talking about


Funny, Ravi Zacharias is compared to the Oxford and Cambridge don C.S. Lewis.


so are you saying they all speak in the same fashion as "DavidBen"

Nubby's photo
Fri 01/30/09 11:25 AM






That made absolutly no sense.


you have not aquired much sense???

that make more sense??

now there are two sense, as two both totally knowing that you could care less what it said be the only reason you do not wish to read???

if my 11 year old can read it, this be the only good knowing for me???




I like you davidben.


"Nubby" ..I bet he reminds you of the visiting philosopher from Oxford you were talking about


Funny, Ravi Zacharias is compared to the Oxford and Cambridge don C.S. Lewis.


so are you saying they all speak in the same fashion as "DavidBen"


No, but they are both unique.

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Fri 01/30/09 11:35 AM







That made absolutly no sense.


you have not aquired much sense???

that make more sense??

now there are two sense, as two both totally knowing that you could care less what it said be the only reason you do not wish to read???

if my 11 year old can read it, this be the only good knowing for me???




I like you davidben.


"Nubby" ..I bet he reminds you of the visiting philosopher from Oxford you were talking about


Funny, Ravi Zacharias is compared to the Oxford and Cambridge don C.S. Lewis.


so are you saying they all speak in the same fashion as "DavidBen"


No, but they are both unique.


like two hemorrhoids

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Fri 01/30/09 11:49 AM






Is the Christian faith intellectual nonsense? Are Christians deluded?


sorry but Christian have not cornered the market on delusion ..all faiths no matter the religion or the demonination or the philosophy are delusional ....

faith is the practice of willingly placing oneself into a state of delusion




yea funches, but it be only one that will itself to no delusion, having most only faith in itself, that make self led unto delsusion, by not allowing the voice of all others to be combined into one, that show what is not delusion???


"DavidBen" ..one would only need faith if they doubt their own existence ...and to doubt one's own existence is delusional


YEA? are you sure funches???

think of it my brother???


"DavidBen"....can you explain how I can think about it if I didn't exist? ...




JUST THE POINT, thinking as HUMAN PERCIEVE IT, is seeing what match what self know???

the TOTAL AVAILABLE TO BE KNOWN TO SELF IS ALL THAT OTHERS THINK???

so TAKE WHAT ALL OTHERS SAY, AND PROVE HOW IT IS TRUE, be the only way to ADD ALL TO SELF???

what is ALL???

all that EVER HAPPENED???

IS NOT ALL THAT EVER HAPPENED IN ALL THINGS THAT SPEAK, AND ALSO IN ALL THINGS WRITTEN???

the cutting first INTO TWO COME FROM SELF HAVING A MOTIVE ALREADY, DUE TO ALL SELF'S BELIEF???

and self belief is FIRST FORMED BY EMOTIONS OR NO EMOTIONAL RESPONSE WOULD NOT HAVE CREATED MEMORY AND MEMORY IS ONLY EMOTIONAL TIME AND SPACE STAMPING???

STAMPED OUT ONLY BY EMOTIONS, RESPONDING TO A PRE-EXISTING ENVIRONMENT???

SO ONE HAS TO GO "THRU" EMOTIONS TO GET WHAT IT SEEK???

and the only way THRU THEM, IS TO NOT TRY TO CHANGE THEM???

to change something is to RUN FROM WHAT IT IS ALREADY???

to chase to GOOD DRAGON, EACH CHASING THE TAIL OF SOME WHIMSICAL IDEA OF WHAT GOOD SHOULD BE, SO NEVER ACCESSING IT AS ALL THAT IS, and this cannot become until as to self, self is invivible, it's feelings secondary to all others things, and THIS OPEN THE TO HOW MUCH THE MIND WAS REFUTING ONLY???

so it refute even before words are completed???

so soon cannot evev read ONE SENTENCE OR NOT OF MUSIC OR PICTURE WITHOUT FIRST TRAINED HABIT LOOKING FOR WHAT TO REFUTE???

SO THE SIGHT OF WHAT LIE IN ALL THINGS COMBINED, come not until SELF SEE IT'S "WISHES" OF CERTAIN WORDS FROM OTHERS, first create all that one cannot see called by some as delusion???

TO DENY ANOTHER'S REALITY AT ALL IS TO DENY ONE'S ONW EVEN GREATER???

to think that ONE'S OWN TASTE BUDS ARE SUPERIOR IF THEY ARE DIFFERENT TO ANOTHER IN DUE TIME???

WHEN THE GOD FREQUENCY IS TAPPED INTO, ONE FINDS THAT "ALL THE ENERGY OF ALL EXPERTISE IF ALIVE WITHIN THE UNIVERSE AND COSMOS, AS WHAT IS MAKING EACH DO WHAT THEY DO???

human emotions???

THESE DO NOT PASS THRU A PORTAL INTO NOTHINGNESS WHICH BE EVERTHING THAT IS, WITHOUT ONE FIRST ONLY WISHING TO HEAR ALL DATA FROM ALL OTHERS AS TRUE, as the sight of JUST HOW MUCH THAT HAS BEEN SAID ALOUD, AND DENIED JUST FOR THE SAKE OF EMOTIONS, IS UNTO THE SOLVINGS OF THE ENDS OF ALL THINGS???

ok....

all i got.....

the brain is SET TO OUTLOOK ONLY THRU THE SELF, then when OUTLOOKING TURNS TO NO LOOKING, THEN ALL MUST SHIFT BACK TO INTAKING, AND ALL IS AS INTOOK, AND AWARENESS OUTSIDE IS AS ALL SUCKED BACK INTO ITSELF, JUST AS THE COSMOS WILL SUCK ALL BACK INTO ITSELF, WHICH COMPLETE THE "TOTAL PRO CESS OF INCREASING AWARENESS IN THE EACH, AND THE COSMOS TOGETHER, AS DRAWING BACK IN THE CANVAS, AND THEN THE BEGINNING OF THE PAINTING OF A WHOLE NEW PROTRAIT INTO REALITY, TO CREATE THEM MORE OR NEWER OR GREATER, OR INCREASED AWARENESS???

the trilogy of "awareness" ALL PASSING thru and into time and into space an back to awareness????



for supersonic hearing to becomes as world famous again......