If I understand DavidBen right, then all religions are right in the sense of the believing in God. Not in believing in a bible or any other books, but believing in God, and there is only one, though he carries many names.

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Once again...how else can a woman hold a baby?

From the CDC


From the NIH


Some Libyan woman holding her baby.


What's your point? Women hold their babies that way.

Look at those statues. That is the point.

"Parallels in the history of religions influenced the dating of the resurrection on the third day.{29} In the hey-day of the history of religions school, all sorts of parallels in the history of other religions were adduced in order to explain the resurrection on the third day; but today critics are more sceptical concerning such alleged parallels. The myths of dying and rising gods in pagan religions are merely symbols for processes of nature and have no connection with a real historical individual like Jesus of Nazareth. {30} The three-day motif is found only in the Osiris and perhaps Adonis cults, and, in Grass's words, it is 'completely unthinkable' that the early Christian community from which the formula stems could be influenced by such myths.{31} In fact there is hardly any trace of cults of dying and rising gods at all in first century Palestine. It has also been suggested that the three day motif reflects the Jewish belief that the soul did not depart decisively from the body until after three days.{32} But the belief was actually that the soul departed irrevocably on the fourth day, not the third; in which case the analogy with the resurrection is weaker. But the decisive count against this view is that the resurrection would not then be God's act of power and deliverance from death, for the soul had not yet decisively left the body, but merely re-entered and resuscitated it. This would thus discredit the resurrection of Jesus. If this Jewish notion were in mind, the expression would have been 'raised on the fourth day' after the soul had forever abandoned the body and all hope was gone (cf. the raising of Lazarus). Some critics have thought that the third day reference is meant only to indicate, in Hebrew reckoning, 'a short time' or 'a while'.{33} But when one considers the emphasis laid on this motif not only in the formula but especially in the gospels, then so indefinite a reference would not have the obvious significance which the early Christians assigned to this phrase."

The first human recording of God-like Savior born of Virgin mother and later being Resurrected from the dead is found in Egypt, 3-4,000 years before Christ. The Story focuses on Osiris, Isis, and Horus, reputably known as the original Holy family; the father, the mother, the son

Horus originates in Pre-history, we can only date him to Egyptian times because we have no real records before that period of antiquity. The Egyptian “Book of Vivifying the Soul Forever” written over 5,000 years ago contains The Story of the Egyptian Horus and has remarkable similarities to the Story of Jesus Christ.

In fact if you compare the Egyptian book of knowing the Evolutions, you can see very strong parallels to the Book of Genesis which came from God to Moses, who was raised in the household of the Egyptian Pharaoh, and later became the King of the Jews.

Most later religions purporting Christ-Like saviors have their roots in the Early Egyptian religious system, which itself dates from an unknown source prior to any recorded History.

That may be but these myths were not circulating in first century Palestine.

The Cult of Messiah

Egypt enters into the Historical records around the 4th millennium BC , prior to that period Egypt was not unified and the Historical record is very shaky. The followers of Horus invaded Egypt during the pre-dynastic time, possibly from Ethiopia, and probably shortly before the first records of a written language / hieroglyphics, and are largely responsible for it's rise as the Early Cradle of Civilization. In this same fashion, thousands of years later that the followers of Christ would invade The Roman Empire and bring about the rise of the Christian Church. Horus became a part of the state religion and was associated with the sun god, Ra. Horus was so important to the state religion that Pharaohs were considered his human manifestation and some even took on the name Horus.

The Egyptian pharaohs were considered to be "the word of God become flesh" or incarnations of the Egyptian Logos/God ,Horus. By making this claim the pharaohs were able to acquiesce a Divine right to rule, they considered themselves not only answerable to God and God alone, but to in essence be a God become flesh. This practice morphed through successive societies where Monarchs and rulers throughout the ages seized upon variations of this theme placing themselves and their offspring in a royal pantheon . The theory of Divine Right of Kings in Europe is a later version of the Pharaoh/Horus scenario.

This tradition continued through time . A cult of Messiah developed about Alexander the Great, he was claimed to be born of a Virgin and having had no Earthly father, although it was well known that Phillip of Macedonia was his Earthly father. A cult of Messiah also developed around Julius Cesar, it was claimed that he was born of a Virgin and had no Earthly father , although his Earthly fathers existence was well documented. The Cult of Divus Juluis became very prominent in the years following his assassination. {The Book of Mark may be a rework based on Julius Caesar and the cult of Divus Juluis }

And last but not least [actually not last either] a Hebrew Revolutionary known as Yeshua {Joshua} was claimed to be born of a Virgin and had no Earthly father, although it was known that Joseph was his Earthly father. A Cult of Messiah developed around the Revolutionary leader - Joshua [Jesus}, and the rest is History.

David Aune, a specialist in ancient literature, concludes that "no parallel to them is found in Graeco–Roman biography."{6} Rather the resurrection narratives, like the gospels in general, are to be interpreted within a Jewish context.

How about they are both BS. Or they are both right, they are both interpretations of earlier man's imaginative stories. Who cares at this point, even people with in both communities fight over which is legitimate when neither fit the time. And within each people fight about who's interpretation works better for the whole.. ack, insanity.

And so far spider I have provided Egyptologists that supported his work yet you have still to provide anyone else that criticized him besides a Christian.

Won several scholarships at University of Toronto including the Jarvis Scholarship in Greek and Latin; The Maurice Hutton Scholarship in Classics; The Sir William Mulock Scholarship in Classics; and the Gold Medal in Classics.
Attended Oxford University on a Rhodes Scholarship 1951-1954.
Studied theology and tutored in Greek at Wycliffe College, University of Toronto, 1954-56. Won prizes in homiletics and Greek.
Won full colours in rugger at U of T and an ice hockey Blue at Oxford.
Began career as an Anglican priest at St. Margaret's-in-the-Pines, West Hill, Ontario (1957-1964).
Professor of New Testament at University of Toronto (Toronto School of Theology) from 1964 to 1971.
Fellow of the Religious Public Relations Council (USA).
Awarded The Silver Medal for Outstanding Journalism by the State of Israel in 1976.
Listed in U.S. Who's Who in Religion, Canadian Who's Who, and the most recent edition of Men of Achievement, (Cambridge, England).
Has appeared on major television and radio networks. Was host of the following shows, all based on his books by the same names:
a 10-part series on Vision TV, City TV and The Learning Channel called "Life After Death"
a weekly hour-long interview programme, "Harpur's Heaven and Hell"
a 12-part series on Vision TV: "The Uncommon Touch"
Author of the following books (ten of which were Canadian "best-sellers"):
Water Into Wine (Thomas Allen Publishers)
Living Waters (Thomas Allen Publishers)
The Spirituality of Wine (Northstone Publishing)
The Pagan Christ (Thomas Allen Publishers)
Harpur's Heaven and Hell (Oxford)
For Christ's Sake (Oxford)
Always on Sunday (Oxford)
Communicating the Good News Today (Lancelot)
Life After Death (M&S)
God Help Us (M&S)
The Uncommon Touch (M&S)
The God Question (Lancelot)
The Divine Lover (Lancelot)
Harpur vs. Hancock (Lancelot)
Would You Believe (M&S) (published in the U.S. as The Thinking Person's Guide to God, Prima Press)
Prayer - The Hidden Fire (Northstone Publishing)
Prayer Journal (Northstone Publishing)
Finding the Still Point - A Spiritual Response to Stress (Northstone Publishing)
and two children's books:
The Mouse that Couldn't Squeak (Oxford)
The Terrible Finn MacCoul (Oxford)
Currently Tom and his wife Susan live in rural Ontario, where they enjoy hiking with their dog, cross-country skiing and swimming in season.


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Actually, modern scholarship has come to the conclusion that the four gospels are actual attempts by the disciples to write biographies of Jesus life.

Anyway, I dont see any refutation to this man's book and a whole lot of support for it.

The Rosetta Stone is an Ancient Egyptian artifact which was instrumental in advancing modern understanding of hieroglyphic writing. The stone is a Ptolemaic era stele with carved text made up of three translations of a single passage: two in Egyptian language scripts (hieroglyphic and Demotic) and one in classical Greek. It was created in 196 BC, discovered by the French in 1799 at Rashid.

Refuted. GERALD MASSEY
(1828 - 1907)
Poet, author, lecturer and Egyptologist.

I do not see what the big deal is about this mans theory?

I don’t either. He was a Christian. Its spider that is so upset about it. I’m not sure why.