Topic: God's name is "Jealous"
AllenAqua's photo
Wed 01/07/09 11:14 AM
She wasn't talking about God's thoughts...She was talking about un-believer's thoughts towards God.
God can not be in the presence of sin.
God is pure love.
It's those who miss the point, refuse to accept the point(of his word) that are obsessed and decieved.

Krimsa's photo
Wed 01/07/09 11:20 AM
God is pure love.


Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places.--Psalms 109:10

God is angry. He decides to destroy all humans, beasts, creeping things, fowls, and "all flesh wherein there is breath of life." He plans to drown them all.--Genesis 6


AllenAqua's photo
Wed 01/07/09 11:29 AM
God is not angry, vindictive, or vain. God's reign is supreme on high. It's satan who is angry and afraid and jealous and vain. He knows what's coming and wants to decieve as many of God's children as possible. One day soon every knee shall bend, believer and non-believer alike for then all will believe.

Krimsa's photo
Wed 01/07/09 11:42 AM
It wasnt Satan drowning the entire planet.

AllenAqua's photo
Wed 01/07/09 11:53 AM
"The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And The Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and it grieved Him to His heart. So The Lord said, "I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the ground, man and beast and creeping things and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them." (Genesis 6:5-7 RSV)
There was however one exception:


"But Noah found favor in the eyes of The Lord ... Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his generation; Noah walked with God." (Genesis 6:8-9 RSV)
Noah was given the task of building a great boat, an ark, to save a remnant of life on earth. The contents of the ark would serve as the seed from which life would begin again.


skypoetone's photo
Wed 01/07/09 12:23 PM
Edited by skypoetone on Wed 01/07/09 12:24 PM
God is not angry, vindictive, or vain.


God anger:

Exodus 20:5 introduces us to the nature of God, who God is. It says, "Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them nor serve them [speaking of idols] for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me." "For the Lord thy God is a jealous God among you lest the anger of the Lord thy God be kindled against thee, and destroy thee from off the face of the earth."

(Deuteronomy 6:15). "For the Lord your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward' (Deuteronomy 10: 17). You can not bribe God, he will deal swiftly with people and execute judgment. Deuteronomy 29:27, 28 says, "And the anger of the Lord was kindled against this land, to bring upon it all the curses that are written in the book: and the Lord drove them out of their land in [banger, and in wrath, and in great indignation, and cast them into another land, as it is this day." "Then my anger shall be kindled against them in that day, and I will forsake them, and I will hide my face from them, and they shall be devoured, and many evils and troubles shall befall them, so that they will say in that day, 'Are not these evils come upon us, because our God is not among us?'" (Deuteronomy 32:27)
The Old Testament is filled with passages that describe for us the fact that a part of God's nature, a part of God's character and personality is anger and the willingness to demonstrate wrath at the proper times. God executes true wrath - wrath that is just and deserved.

www.churches-of-christ.net/tracts/job029u.htm

God’s vindictiveness and vanity speaks for itself.




AllenAqua's photo
Wed 01/07/09 12:31 PM
"In this the love of God was made manifest among us, that God sent his only Son into the world, so that we might live through him. In this is love, not that we have loved God but that he loved us and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. No one has ever seen God; if we love one another, God abides in us and his love is perfected in us.

By this we know that we abide in him and he in us, because he has given us of his Spirit. And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world. Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God. So we have come to know and to believe the love that God has for us. God is love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him. By this is love perfected with us, so that we may have confidence for the day of judgment, because as he is so also are we in this world. There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love."

John 4:9-18

God's love not only speaks for it's self, it is manifest.

Krimsa's photo
Wed 01/07/09 12:33 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Wed 01/07/09 12:34 PM

"The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And The Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and it grieved Him to His heart. So The Lord said, "I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the ground, man and beast and creeping things and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them." (Genesis 6:5-7 RSV)
There was however one exception:


"But Noah found favor in the eyes of The Lord ... Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his generation; Noah walked with God." (Genesis 6:8-9 RSV)
Noah was given the task of building a great boat, an ark, to save a remnant of life on earth. The contents of the ark would serve as the seed from which life would begin again.




Im not sure what your point is here? God is still angry and disappointed with man and therefore decided to kill every manner of animal and living thing on the face of the planet. Well, i guess all except sea creatures because those wont drown. God didnt totally think that one through. laugh

Is that your loving god?

Here is another.

The angel of the LORD went out, and smote in the camp of the Assyrians an hundred fourscore and five thousand: and when they arose early in the morning, behold, they were all dead corpses.--2 Kg.19:35


skypoetone's photo
Wed 01/07/09 12:36 PM
"God is not angry"

Your words, categorically. Yet you don't read them in your bible... I think you lose all credibility my friend! sad

AllenAqua's photo
Wed 01/07/09 12:38 PM
God is not angry at ME. If he's angry at you, I strongly urge you to speak with him.

Krimsa's photo
Wed 01/07/09 12:39 PM
laugh laugh

I thought you said he didnt get angry because that was a human emotion. You need to stick to a story young man.

Inkracer's photo
Wed 01/07/09 12:41 PM

laugh laugh

I thought you said he didnt get angry because that was a human emotion. You need to stick to a story young man.


But they can't "convince" the non-believers if the story stays the same. . .

AllenAqua's photo
Wed 01/07/09 12:46 PM
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"The LORD is my light and my salvation;
whom shall I fear?

The LORD is the strength of my life;
of whom shall I be afraid?

When the wicked, even mine enemies and my foes,
came upon me to eat up my flesh, they stumbled and fell.

Though an host should encamp against me,
my heart shall not fear:
though war should rise against me,
in this will I be confident."

Psalm 27:1-3


I have niether regard nor sorrow for the loss of credibilty in non-believers. It's their perogitive to see my attempts at helping them to see the writing on the wall as they wish.

skypoetone's photo
Wed 01/07/09 12:57 PM

God is not angry at ME. If he's angry at you, I strongly urge you to speak with him.


REALUnconditional Love never retains anger; I strongly urge you to show what Christianity means.

It obviously eludes you.

AllenAqua's photo
Wed 01/07/09 01:05 PM
Edited by AllenAqua on Wed 01/07/09 01:07 PM
There’s a Danish proverb: “The next mile is the only one a person really has to make.” The knowledge that God loves you will keep you going when the next mile seems intolerably long: “For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.” (Romans 8:38,39)

Our faith rests in what God has revealed about Himself to us. He specifically wants us to believe and rely on His love for us:

“...the Lord delights in those who fear [reverence] him, who put their hope in his unfailing love”
Psalms 147:11


God's love is not always felt, even though it's always present, but it is always unfailing.

Krimsa's photo
Wed 01/07/09 01:14 PM

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"The LORD is my light and my salvation;
whom shall I fear?

The LORD is the strength of my life;
of whom shall I be afraid?

When the wicked, even mine enemies and my foes,
came upon me to eat up my flesh, they stumbled and fell.

Though an host should encamp against me,
my heart shall not fear:
though war should rise against me,
in this will I be confident."

Psalm 27:1-3


I have niether regard nor sorrow for the loss of credibilty in non-believers. It's their perogitive to see my attempts at helping them to see the writing on the wall as they wish.


These passages are irrelevant and not addressing the fact that you seem to feel that god is "pure love." Please stay on topic.

Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth.--Psalms 58:6

God repeats his intention to kill "every living substance ... from off the face of the earth." But why does God kill all the innocent animals? What had they done to deserve his wrath? It seems God never gets his fill of tormenting animals. 7:4

AllenAqua's photo
Wed 01/07/09 01:33 PM
Edited by AllenAqua on Wed 01/07/09 01:33 PM
I was merely responding to "Christianity eludes" me, and to the statements that God is hateful and not pure love.

Through Jesus Christ, we see love at its purest. Jesus said, "Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends" (John 15:13). The picture of pure, passionate love is caught in the frame of Jesus loving you while hanging on the cross.

If you wish to paint God as a monster, that is your misfortunate outlook and not my own. I will not have that lie told without countering it.

skypoetone's photo
Wed 01/07/09 01:43 PM
There’s a Danish proverb...


I'll stick to ZEN influenced. :)

Languid is the mind
to narrow thoughts

The righteous equivalent
of pipe dreams

Anger maketh the block
and the block unbalance you

Use free will
to lighten the darkness

Explore forbidden corners
of nightmares

Conviction maketh the being
and the being balance you



skypoetone's photo
Wed 01/07/09 01:49 PM
If you wish to paint God as a monster, that is your misfortunate outlook and not my own. I will not have that lie told without countering it.


The "lies" are those written by man, only the best were contributed to form the bible. Where there is any perpetual truth... you will never KNOW.

AllenAqua's photo
Wed 01/07/09 01:52 PM

If you wish to paint God as a monster, that is your misfortunate outlook and not my own. I will not have that lie told without countering it.


The "lies" are those written by man, only the best were contributed to form the bible. Where there is any perpetual truth... you will never KNOW.




Time will tell...