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Edited by
Seamonster
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It certainly is... God doesn't cause our demise we do when we don't trust Him. His word says that He loved us even when we didn't KNOW Him. Even when we were at emnity with Him. It also says that it is His will that none should perish but that all come to the saving knowledge of His grace. Let God be true & every man a liar. it also says you can move mountains with the faith of a mustard seed, but not alot of mountains being moved. It says alot of silly crap that we know is just not true. But the gullible eat it up.plus to worship a god that demands blood sacrifice in order to forgive is just sick and immoral. lol uhg i ment to just add to my last post, it's early. |
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Edited by
Quikstepper
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Sun 01/04/09 06:28 AM
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It certainly is... God doesn't cause our demise we do when we don't trust Him. His word says that He loved us even when we didn't KNOW Him. Even when we were at emnity with Him. It also says that it is His will that none should perish but that all come to the saving knowledge of His grace. Let God be true & every man a liar. But the gullible eat it up. hmmm...gullible? Not! What it we experience is justice...justification, our very conscience bears witness to that. That's real. If you haven't then how do you know it's made up is more the question. I think the ones who are gullible are the ones who gave up instead of waiting for the promises of God. Or maybe they just didn't have the guts to lay down their dirty little hearts & their dirty little thoughts, & their dirty little sins & addictions so God could prove His love to them? Yu think?  Not to mention their sicknesses, diseases, depressions, hopelessness & fears.
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It certainly is... God doesn't cause our demise we do when we don't trust Him. His word says that He loved us even when we didn't KNOW Him. Even when we were at emnity with Him. It also says that it is His will that none should perish but that all come to the saving knowledge of His grace. Let God be true & every man a liar. But the gullible eat it up. hmmm...gullible? Not! What it we experience is justice...justification, our very conscience bears witness to that. That's real. If you haven't then how do you know it's made up is more the question. I think the ones who are gullible are the ones who gave up instead of waiting for the promises of God. Or maybe they just didn't have the guts to lay down their dirty little hearts & their dirty little thoughts, & their dirty little sins & addictions so God could prove His love to them? Yu think? Not to mention their sicknesses, diseases, depressions, hopelessness & fears. yeah those kids dieing in of cancer just havent givin up their desease. And the ones praying over them are just not praying hard enough or their doing it wrong.  And of course the amputees well god just hates them because they never get healed. |
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Edited by
Krimsa
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Sun 01/04/09 06:57 AM
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I have a question. Why is yahweh so worried about us "whoring after other gods"? Isnt he omnipotent? How many other gods are there and if those are nonexistent and made up, why put so much effort into cursing them and demanding that they are disbanded? It sounds like the jealous lover that insists that you cease all contact with other men (or women). Its incompatible with omniscience and kind of silly.
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Edited by
Quikstepper
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Sun 01/04/09 07:03 AM
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I have a question. Why is god so worried about us "whoring after other gods"? Isnt he omnipotent? How many other gods are there and if those are nonexistent and made up, why put so much effort into cursing them and demanding that they are disbanded? It sounds like the jealous lover that insists that you cease all contact with other men (or women). Its incompatible with omniscience and kind of silly. uh...well...gee...??? Silly? Take a look... Rebellion...stubborn... arguementative..ignore what is being said, the truth...distorts & doesn't believe the testimony of others... won't acknowledge their sins...comfortable with their own miseries...bitter... resentful... broken.. addicted.. fearful...hopeless... stressed... and Oh Yes! these things create disease & sickness among us & to our families. God wants people to know the severity of what their fallen man produces. Some things can be reduced by trusting His word. You are correct about one thing... you can ignore God & make up what you want to but you have only yourself to blame for missed blessings. I would imagine that if all humanity just turned to God to trust Him, they would see such a great glory of God that would bring immeasurable joy. the choice is theirs...yours... to choose. |
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Edited by
Krimsa
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Sun 01/04/09 08:33 AM
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In which case, you are stating that Yahweh would have required subordinance in the face of these older gods/goddesses, thus empowering them to some extent. Explain?
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I have a question. Why is god so worried about us "whoring after other gods"? Isnt he omnipotent? How many other gods are there and if those are nonexistent and made up, why put so much effort into cursing them and demanding that they are disbanded? It sounds like the jealous lover that insists that you cease all contact with other men (or women). Its incompatible with omniscience and kind of silly. uh...well...gee...??? Silly? Take a look... Rebellion...stubborn... arguementative..ignore what is being said, the truth...distorts & doesn't believe the testimony of others... won't acknowledge their sins...comfortable with their own miseries...bitter... resentful... broken.. addicted.. fearful...hopeless... stressed... and Oh Yes! these things create disease & sickness among us & to our families. God wants people to know the severity of what their fallen man produces. Some things can be reduced by trusting His word. You are correct about one thing... you can ignore God & make up what you want to but you have only yourself to blame for missed blessings. I would imagine that if all humanity just turned to God to trust Him, they would see such a great glory of God that would bring immeasurable joy. the choice is theirs...yours... to choose. the same thing is said by followers of Krishna and Tubiknis oh yeah but those are made up bad gods only yours is real I forgot. well theres one born every second. |
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God's name is "Jealous" Whattttttttttttttt? ...I thought his name was "I AM" ... how many names does this guy have...next you're going to be saying that his name is Satan |
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Half his name is Satan already. Satanists believe in the devil as a personified evil just as Christians do. Its a fine line and they are halfway there. Whats the difference between a Christian and a Satanist one has to ask. Its a roll of the dice and one has craps the other, has well, the other half of the same dice.
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Edited by
Quikstepper
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Sun 01/04/09 01:03 PM
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In which case, you are stating that Yahweh would have required subordinance in the face of these older gods/goddesses, thus empowering them to some extent. Explain? Uh... as I said...it's your choice to make up anything you want to believe in...even if it is hugging trees, but God doesn't change. From the Christian perspective of what God says in His word. God's word is living Krimsa & instead of resisting why don't you just try Him...God says to test & approve what is approved & acceptable to Him. He does respond...when you sense in your very soul His approval of you just because...then you will know what all the rest of us who don't know eachother do know. Then if you want to walk away I would be satisfied, but I really do wish everyone experienced God in that personal way because then they would never leave Him. That's the truth that no other philosophy or religion can boast of. If you think you aren't serving something then I really have a bridge to sell you. I will stay with what I am convinced of & not some feel good made up fad dogma du jour. No one will ever be fully convinced of who God is until they experience the life changing glory of God living in them. Holy = with your total (whole) being. It all starts with forgiveness. |
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In which case, you are stating that Yahweh would have required subordinance in the face of these older gods/goddesses, thus empowering them to some extent. Explain? Uh... as I said...it's your choice to make up anything you want to believe in...even if it is hugging trees, but God doesn't change. From the Christian perspective of what God says in His word. God's word is living Krimsa & instead of resisting why don't you just try Him...God says to test & approve what is approved & acceptable to Him. He does respond...when you sense in your very soul His approval of you just because...then you will know what all the rest of us who don't know eachother do know. Then if you want to walk away I would be satisfied, but I really do wish everyone experienced God in that personal way because then they would never leave Him. That's the truth that no other philosophy or religion can boast of. yes pray over an amputee tonight if he grows a leg back then there is a god but if he does not then either he does not care about you or the amputee or there is no god. I agree, try it and see what happens. |
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Human jealousy Whereas God's "jealousy" is primarily restricted to a jealousy over the worship of idols that competes with His love to prevent a dedicated relationship with Him, jealousy between people takes on quite a number of forms. Two different Hebrew words are used to describe human jealousy. The Hebrew verb qânâ' (Strong's H7065)9 refers to a passionate jealousy or envy.10 The Hebrew noun qin'âh (Strong's H7068)11 takes on a wide range of meanings from sexual passion (or jealousy) to a zeal for God to anger or envy.12 The exact meaning (and the English translation is usually determined from the context. Human vs. godly jealousy The differences between the words describing human vs. godly jealousy are profound. For example, the jealousy that keeps one out of heaven is defined as "an envious and contentious rivalry, jealousy" (Thayer's Greek Dictionary). God does not envy an human being or anything that any human being possesses. God has no rivals. The apostle Paul indicates that there is a godly form of jealousy.13 The main reason why atheists think that God should not be jealous is that, as an English word, "jealousy" has virtually universal negative connotations. In the original languages in which the Bible is written, Hebrew and Greek, the words translated as "jealousy" in English do not always have negative connotations. In fact, the Greek word often translated "jealous" is zēlos, from which we get the English word "zealous," referring more to zeal and ardor rather than jealousy. Thanks Laura for sharing that. It makes me think of a typical scenario between a mother and teenage daughter. They may have had a close and loving relationship until one day the girl is involved with a boy, and instead of concentrating on things that will help her succeed in life, she is wasting her time in dangerous pursuits, heavy drug or alcohol use. I am sure if the mother complains bitterly and tries to punish the girl there will be accusations of "You are just jealous". Is it jealousy and if it is, is it a negative thing but rather an emotion born out of love and desire for the well being of a child that is deeply loved? |
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Edited by
Krimsa
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Mon 01/05/09 05:23 AM
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What would be advantageous to a supposedly "omniscient being" to eradicate any other previously existing spirituality or even religion? Once again it sounds just like the jealous boyfriend or girlfriend who is hell bent on demanding that you sever all ties from others of the opposite sex that you might have shared a relationship with prior.
What normally causes that behavior in a human? A sense of superiority? Or insecurity? The bible was written by men so there is no other point of reference. I will tell you one thing. It does not stem from "love". |
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you were off by one verse
====================================================== 34:12 Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee: 34:13 But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves: 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name [is] Jealous, [is] a jealous God: 34:15 Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and [one] call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice; --- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----- ---- http://www.godrules.net/library/kjv/kjvexo34.htm ==================================================== good thread i di not realize that was actually there 
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Edited by
Krimsa
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Mon 01/05/09 05:35 AM
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Thanks. I have been reading the bible but then if I bookmark something I have to go back and find it online and then copy and paste. Of course god disapproves of any other animal sacrifice that is not being dedicated to him.
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One does not compare the creator with the creation.
God's "jealousy" can NOT be compared with our own. For this comparision, there surely is no frame of reference, for we are only the creation. |
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One does not compare the creator with the creation. God's "jealousy" can NOT be compared with our own. For this comparision, there surely is no frame of reference, for we are only the creation. so he did not create us in his image? Any other lies in the bible you would like to bring to light? |
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is the image of the creator equal to the substance of the creator?
If you sculpt a bust of yourself, is that you? |
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One does not compare the creator with the creation. God's "jealousy" can NOT be compared with our own. For this comparision, there surely is no frame of reference, for we are only the creation. True. It is a different kind of jealousy as was explained by Laura when looking at the translation of words. God is jealous FOR us, not jealous of us. |
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