Don't not confuse “conspiracy theories” with “reasonable suspicion.”
Theories are simply possibilities based on intellectual conclusions.
Suspicion is based on specific events and evidence. For example you can
not conduct a courtroom trial based on theory, you can however, conduct
one based on evidence.

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another person, this time a woman, one of 400+ insiders that do not
believe this governments story.


Catherine Austin Fitts – Assistant Secretary of Housing under George
H.W. Bush. Former Managing Director and Member of the Board of Wall
Street investment bank, Dillon, Read & Co

Audio Interview 9/9/04: Regarding 9/11 "The official story could not
possibly have happened... It’s not possible. It’s not operationally
feasible... The Commission was a whitewash." (About 45 minutes into the
file.) http://157


Essay 3/22/04: "The first category of people who benefited were those
who are guilty and complicit in designing, implementing and financing
the 9-11 operation. On such a sophisticated and successful covert
operation, the people responsible would have had budgets and financing
and would have organized the operation to maximize their political and
financial benefits." http://globalresearch.ca


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11:
"We want truthful answers to question. … As Americans of conscience, we
ask for four things:
An immediate investigation by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer
Immediate investigation in Congressional Hearings.
Media attention to scrutinize and investigate the evidence.
The formation of a truly independent citizens-based inquiry."
http://www.911truth.org/article



Bio: http://www.solari.com/about/ca_fitts.html

as too the first part of the last post about CT I left out that Im not
sure whats up, but I do know that I dont buy this governments story
about 911.

and either do these 400+ insiders.

_____________________________________________


Fred Burks – Former State Department Interpreter for Presidents George
W. Bush and Bill Clinton, Vice Presidents **** Cheney and Al Gore,
Secretaries of State Colin Powell and Madeleine Albright. 18-year State
Department career.

Essay: "How is it possible that our military's highly touted missile
detections systems could not locate Flight 77 in the 42 minutes it was
known to be lost before it crashed into the heart of the defense system
of the U.S.? …

An even bigger question is why isn't our media asking these questions?
Why isn't our military spending many millions of dollars to find out why
military defense systems failed on 9/11? Why is it that the 9/11
commission budget was far less than the budget allotted to the
Challenger Disaster or even the Monika Lewinsky affair?"
http://www.wanttoknow.info/911star


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11:
"We want truthful answers to question. … As Americans of conscience, we
ask for four things:
An immediate investigation by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer
Immediate investigation in Congressional Hearings.
Media attention to scrutinize and investigate the evidence.
The formation of a truly independent citizens-based inquiry."
http://www.911truth.org/article

My theory about us firing upon the pentagon plane would cover that
question quite nicely.


And I've yet to see any "evidence" in the conspiracy's defence AT ALL.
Nothing you've cited is even all that suspicious. And what would be
damning *would* be, if it weren't an obvious lie from the beginning.
"Collapse at free fall" indeed. How stupid do you have to be to claim
something that the visual, video evidence obviously disproves?

and yet the Pentagon does not show any 757 hitting it either so why dont
you ask them to provide us those vidieos.... LOL

you keep mentioning 400+.

What is the population of the united states?

what percentage of that population is 400?

I just don't buy this. I might believe there is a cover up but I don't
think it is a coverup of our duplicity in the attack. Perhaps they are
trying to cover their own lack of foresight or the totally inadequate
communications between agencies that existed at the time.

I said I agree with you, that there's something suspicious about the
pentagon strike. But the Towers were a definitive explainable and
unsuspicious series of events that make perfect, logical sence.

And I gave a reasonable explanations about WHY we'd be covering the
pentagon attack, that is in no way indicative of a traitorous plot
against our own country.

why is it that everyone here that goes with this government does not
read this thread, its amazine.

I will just continue to post their professional opinons and you
blue-collar guys just keep replying with weak responses....

Its weird you love this government but you cant back their story up and
when insiders do you just ignore it.....LOL LOL

_________________________________________

no I said there are at least 600+ unanswered questions about this
governments story about 911, and ther are over 400+ insiders that say
this government is lying just like this one;


Daniel Ellsberg, PhD – Former Special Assistant to the Assistant
Secretary of Defense. Former State Department envoy to Viet Nam. While
working for the government, Ellsberg attained the ultimate civil service
grade of GS-18, equivalent to a Major General. Former U.S. Marine Corps
officer. Former military analyst for the Rand Corporation. Most well
known for leaking the Pentagon Papers to the New York Times in 1971.

Interview 7/14/06: Regarding 9/11 "There is no question in my mind, that
there is enough evidence to justify a very comprehensive and hard
hitting investigation of the kind we have not seen. With subpoenas,
general questioning of people, releasing a lot of documents. There’s no
question that very serious questions have been raised about how much
they knew before hand and how much involvement there may have been."
http://www.infowars


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11:
"We want truthful answers to question. … As Americans of conscience, we
ask for four things:
An immediate investigation by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer
Immediate investigation in Congressional Hearings.
Media attention to scrutinize and investigate the evidence.
The formation of a truly independent citizens-based inquiry."
http://www.911truth.org/article



Bio: http://www.ellsberg.net/content/view/14/27/

What. Ever. You're the only one trying to make a claim that there's a
problem. Two people are essentially slicing you apart from the base up.
This is like watching Monty Python's "The Quest for the Holy Grail"-
you're the Black Knight.


The reason we're the only two- is because we're the only ones
necessary. We did the work on both ends. There's nothing you've claimed
that we haven't beat. Get something GOOD, then come back.


And I have a *lot* of problems with this government. And America in
general. My generation in general does. We'll come into our own soon
enough- if we can prevent our projenitors from destroying the entire
mess first. Economics, foreign policy, domestic policy, environment,
etc.... everything's messed up. But 9/11 isn't on the list of "things
rational people should care about". Nutjobs can cite all the
conspiracies they want. Intelligent people know better.

There are too many unanswered questions and eyewitness testimony to
events (such as hearing explosions going off in the towers, among
others) and many, MANY other events that baffle me as to why any
reasonable, thinking person would not only question them in their mind,
but would not DEMAND an explanation for it.

I've done hours and hours of research on this and I still am not
convinced of the "official" explanation.

Unless or until I get answers sufficient to explain those points, I will
always wonder what "really happened."

Explosions? Easy. The structural integrity collapsing. A metal beam
snapping in half a punching into the concrete.

There. Explained. Got any other questions.

If you say so.

JeanC

Bear in mind that the idea behind propaganda is to sow the seeds of
confusion and discord amoung your enemies. Propaganda is a mix of
half-truths, out right lies and delibrate misinformation. It can
include deliberately skewed data and manipulation of news and
information sources. It can include deliberate false interpretations of
religious writing and a host of other things.

It is one of those hidden aspects of warfare and is part of any
comprehensive strategic and tactical battle plan.

Those that comprise what is now known as Al Queada (I can't spell)
declared war on the US some 40 years ago. They have had 40 years or so
to prepare for the actual events that have unfolded in the past several
years. They were using propaganda against the US long before 9/11.

Right alongside claiming the Holocaust never happened. I LOVE how they
manage to "prove" that one. HAH! In another century, they'll be claiming
the Towers never existed at all, and the whole event was made up.

"What. Ever. You're the only one trying to make a claim that there's a
problem. Two people are essentially slicing you apart from the base up.
This is like watching Monty Python's "The Quest for the Holy Grail"-
you're the Black Knight."

I give this post a 10 / 10.

Poetnartist, having heard both sounds I can tell you that they do indeed
sound alike. Enough to make me kiss dirt for each.

you never responded to these guys

http://911scholars.org/


and whats amazine is you 2 or 3 guys still believe that 19 kids (9 are
still alive) with box-cutters completly destroyed our trillion dollar
defense system, if that is the case we all need to run and hide because
our borders are open and these box-cutter dudes could borrow some row
boats.


________________________________

more


Robin Hordon – Former FAA Air Traffic Controller at the Boston Air Route
Traffic Control Center, located in Nashua, NH, 1970 - 1981. Former
Certified Commercial Pilot. Former Certified Flight Instructor and
Certified Ground Instructor. After leaving the FAA, he had a 12-year
career in the field of comedy ending up as artistic coordinator for
"Catch A Rising Star" in Harvard Square in Cambridge, MA.
Statement to this website 4/10/07: "I knew within hours of the attacks
on 9/11/2001 that it was an inside job. Based on my 11-year experience
as an FAA Air Traffic Controller in the busy Northeast corridor,
including hundreds of hours of training, briefings, air refuelings, low
altitude bombing drills, being part of huge military exercises, daily
military training exercises, interacting on a routine basis directly
with NORAD radar personnel, and based on my own direct experience
dealing with in-flight emergency situations, including two instances of
hijacked commercial airliners, I state unequivocally; There is
absolutely no way that four large commercial airliners could have flown
around off course for 30 to 60 minutes on 9/11 without being intercepted
and shot completely out of the sky by our jet fighters unless very
highly placed people in our government and our military wanted it to
happen.

It is important for people to understand that scrambling jet fighters to
intercept aircraft showing the signs of experiencing “IN-FLIGHT
EMERGENCIES” such as going off course without authorization, losing a
transponder signal and/or losing radio contact is a common and routine
task executed jointly between the FAA and NORAD controllers. The entire
“national defense-first responder” intercept system has many
highly-trained civilian and military personnel who are committed and
well-trained to this task. FAA and NORAD continuously monitor our skies
and fighter planes and pilots are on the ready 24/7 to handle these
situations. Jet fighters typically intercept any suspect plane over the
United States within 10 - 15 minutes of notification of a problem.

This type of "immediate, high speed, high priority and emergency"
scramble had been happening regularly approximately 75 - 150 times per
year for ten years. ...

I believe that 9/11 was what is known as a "False Flag Operation" in
which a country inflicts casualties upon itself, and then blames it on
an enemy that they want to go to war against. It is one more instance
in the United States’ long history of using "False Flag Operations" and
blatant propaganda to ramp-up hostile emotions towards an enemy in a
population otherwise resistant to going to war." Link to full statement
and expanded bio


Article 3/12/07: "When it became clear that there hadn't been a systems
failure of any kind on the morning of September 11th, Hordon was certain
that something had gone terribly wrong within the upper echelons of
authority. A pilot (third level air carrier) as well as an ATC, he is
well versed on in-flight emergency protocol. He is also adamant that if
these procedures had been followed on 9/11 not one of the hijacked
planes would have reached their targets.

"I'm sorry but American 11 should have been intercepted over southwest
Connecticut—bang, done deal." ...

The unfathomable delays seen in military action on 9/11 are
inconceivable to those who have painstakingly investigated the matter --
and for a man who worked for years keeping air travel over the U.S.
safe. ...

"I think we all have to agree that, one way or another, the U.S.
military was involved in the attacks. The advantage that Rumsfeld had
is that he can classify, reshape, make available, make unavailable any
information that he wants, at any time and deny that information to the
public for any reason, especially national security."
http://www.prisonplanet.com

Thanks, guys. Always good to know my work is appreciated and validated.


And I'd hit the dirt even if I KNEW it was steel shattering concrete.
Nothing quite like a fractured chunk of rock moving at the speed of a
bullet bouncing off the side of your skull.

You know, or maybe you dont that a 911 truther named Jimmy Walter has
put up a million dollars for anyone that can explain and prove the
governments story of the twin buildings (pancake theory) he did this 4
years ago and nobody is able to prove that it happened that way, not
even structrual engineers.

So go for it, and be the next millionaire.

______________________________________

Philip J. Berg, Esquire – Former Deputy Attorney General, State of
Pennsylvania.

Article 10/29/04: "The official story of what actually took place on
9-11 is a lie." http://www.americanfreepress.net


Statement 1/4/07: "Berg continued there is overwhelming evidence that:
"Bush and his cronies made 9/11 happen or let it happen. And, if they
let it happen, then they made it happen. Either way, they are
responsible; and more important, they have completely and unequivocally
covered-it-up!" MS Word doc at
http://www.911forthetruth.com/pdfs/PR_01042007.doc


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11:
"We want truthful answers to question. … As Americans of conscience, we
ask for four things:
An immediate investigation by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer
Immediate investigation in Congressional Hearings.
Media attention to scrutinize and investigate the evidence.
The formation of a truly independent citizens-based inquiry."
http://www.911truth.org/article.php



Member: Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice Association Statement:
"Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice is a non-partisan organization
consisting of independent researchers and activists engaged in
uncovering the true nature of the September 11, 2001 attacks."


Bio: http://www.911forthetruth.com

19 kids with box cutters.

A box cutter is a fierce weapon. In the hands of a trained person it
can be quite deadly.

Any 10 y/o american child familiar with flight simulator games could
have flown those planes once the pilot got the plane airborne.