Topic: Witchcraft and Shamanism
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Sat 02/07/09 08:32 AM
Nope, and there isn't anything you can do about it when it doesn't work. Of course, it's not like you're out of a lot of money at $7.95 a pop. That's partly what they are counting on. They make a ton of money because they defraud a large number of people, but each person is only out $10 or $20 so no one is going to do anything about it. Not even the cops because, again, each victim is barely the victim of petty theft.

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Sat 02/07/09 08:39 AM
Edited by Jill298 on Sat 02/07/09 08:39 AM
well 7.95 and then you buy it several times to make it "stronger". Multiply that by alot of desperate people looking for revenge or love... and you've got yourself money coming in.

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Sat 02/07/09 08:41 AM
<---- should sell books right above their posts on how to cast spells themselves :angry: laugh

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Sat 02/07/09 11:57 AM
I've had people offer me money to cast a spell for them. I tell them I will teach them how to do it themselves and they are not interested. Maybe some of it comes down to laziness? Wanting a quick fix for their problems?

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Sat 02/07/09 11:59 AM

I've had people offer me money to cast a spell for them. I tell them I will teach them how to do it themselves and they are not interested. Maybe some of it comes down to laziness? Wanting a quick fix for their problems?


No, they simply don't believe they can do it as they are no witches.

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Sat 02/07/09 12:02 PM


I've had people offer me money to cast a spell for them. I tell them I will teach them how to do it themselves and they are not interested. Maybe some of it comes down to laziness? Wanting a quick fix for their problems?


No, they simply don't believe they can do it as they are no witches.


You may be right about that. If you don't understand that magick is something anyone can do then you might think you have to have someone else cast for you.

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Sat 02/07/09 12:07 PM



I've had people offer me money to cast a spell for them. I tell them I will teach them how to do it themselves and they are not interested. Maybe some of it comes down to laziness? Wanting a quick fix for their problems?


No, they simply don't believe they can do it as they are no witches.


You may be right about that. If you don't understand that magick is something anyone can do then you might think you have to have someone else cast for you.


there is also their religion, which ever it is, that is in their way. For them it would be sin, something that will be punished with eternal damnation. They don't give a fiddlers f**k though whether somebody else goes to hell for it.laugh

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Sat 02/07/09 12:16 PM


there is also their religion, which ever it is, that is in their way. For them it would be sin, something that will be punished with eternal damnation. They don't give a fiddlers f**k though whether somebody else goes to hell for it.laugh


THAT is so true!

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Sat 02/07/09 05:23 PM
I was thinking that also Invisible. These people that will buy her spells will more than likely be Christians. Or people who are spiritual in the sense that they take Witches and Witchcraft VERY seriously but they could never themselves cast a spell because that is wrong. It has to be done by the Witch because they already have a mental image of what a Witch is in their mind and it certainly is not them. The Witch is going to hell, not them. But they can of course utilize her services until she goes to hell. They think Witches like hell and are friends with the devil.

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Sat 02/07/09 05:35 PM
I am always amazed at how many people approach me for tarot card readings who are Christians or Mormons....religions that explicitly prohibit the use of divination.

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Sat 02/07/09 06:08 PM
Hi there! I'm new to the site, and I'm thrilled to see that is has a strong core of pagan members. So I had a question for you, since some of you seem to be fairly knowledgeable in Tarot, and I've only had my cards for a couple of years. When I have people ask me for a reading, they often don't come with a question or looking for advice on something. And I've never sure how to do those readings. I feel like what the cards are telling me could apply to anything that could or has ever happened in their lives, so I'm never sure how to help them. Is there something I can do? Maybe some sort of spread that would be good for those situations? Is it unreasonable to request that they have some sort of an idea on what they would like advice on?

Thanks,
~Aria~

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Sat 02/07/09 06:11 PM

Hi there! I'm new to the site, and I'm thrilled to see that is has a strong core of pagan members. So I had a question for you, since some of you seem to be fairly knowledgeable in Tarot, and I've only had my cards for a couple of years. When I have people ask me for a reading, they often don't come with a question or looking for advice on something. And I've never sure how to do those readings. I feel like what the cards are telling me could apply to anything that could or has ever happened in their lives, so I'm never sure how to help them. Is there something I can do? Maybe some sort of spread that would be good for those situations? Is it unreasonable to request that they have some sort of an idea on what they would like advice on?

Thanks,
~Aria~


Hi Aria! Welcome to the site.

I don't like those readings either. First of all I usually feel like people are just doing it for the fun of it and I don't care to be "entertainment". I usually say they have to have something they want to have a reading on specifically. However, there are people who are just genuinely interested to see what the cards have to say to them in general about their lives. If I feel it's a genuine request I will do a Celtic Cross spread for them which has specific card placement for past, present and future in general. Does that help?

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Sat 02/07/09 06:19 PM
Yeah, that does. I'm glad I'm not the only one. I was worried that I was just being picky. I even had one girl say that I must not have been very good if I didn't know what it was about. I've heard of that spread, but I didn't know that it laid out for Past, Present, and Future. I've never used a spread before, so I'll have to look into it. It's probably in one of my books. Thanks, again. :)

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Sat 02/07/09 06:24 PM

Hi there! I'm new to the site, and I'm thrilled to see that is has a strong core of pagan members. So I had a question for you, since some of you seem to be fairly knowledgeable in Tarot, and I've only had my cards for a couple of years. When I have people ask me for a reading, they often don't come with a question or looking for advice on something. And I've never sure how to do those readings. I feel like what the cards are telling me could apply to anything that could or has ever happened in their lives, so I'm never sure how to help them. Is there something I can do? Maybe some sort of spread that would be good for those situations? Is it unreasonable to request that they have some sort of an idea on what they would like advice on?

Thanks,
~Aria~


I get a lot of those kinds of readings. In general the things they want to know about concern, Love, Money, Business, or Health. (Few are interested in Spiritual readings, but some are.)

It is always good to ask them at least if it is about love or money. I get a few who ask about health or about someone they are worried about.(not themselves)

If they just insist on a "general reading" and are very vague, you should tell them that general readings will net vague answers. You will read the general energy of the cards.

Don't answer questions like" "What should I do...." (What they should do is make their own decisions.)

I do get those kinds of questions but I don't ever tell people what they should or should not do... I only tell them what the energy of the moment is.

JB


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Sat 02/07/09 06:24 PM

Yeah, that does. I'm glad I'm not the only one. I was worried that I was just being picky. I even had one girl say that I must not have been very good if I didn't know what it was about. I've heard of that spread, but I didn't know that it laid out for Past, Present, and Future. I've never used a spread before, so I'll have to look into it. It's probably in one of my books. Thanks, again. :)


And, that is exactly the kind of response that pisses me off. I tell people, I'm not doing this to entertain you or to prove any psychic abilities I may or may not have. I read the cards in order to help people who want help. Anyone can learn to read the cards whether they are "psychic" or not.

The Celtic Cross is a good "overview" spread. I have some standard ones that I use. You can even just use a basic 3-card spread that shows past, present and future. And, of course, always go with your first gut reaction to a card when reading.

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Sat 02/07/09 06:32 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Sat 02/07/09 06:36 PM
I like to test the card energy sometimes. Once I had a woman who had a question. I had just finished a general reading for her and she said she had another question.

I told her not to tell me what it was. I would see if the cards would tell me.

I pulled three cards.

--- ---

Page of Pentacles, 6 of pentacles, and 6 of wands.

I told her the answer to her question was YES!

Why you might ask.

1. She was asking about her daughter who was about to go to college.---> (page of pentacles)

2. She was worried about having enough money for her college. The answer was YES, the money will be made available.---> 6 of pentacles.

3.She wanted to know if she would go and if she would succeed or graduate...

YES.. --->6 of wands.. the victory card.

I not only told her the answers, I knew what the questions were. She was amazed.

So was I.

laugh laugh laugh

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Sat 02/07/09 06:35 PM
Yep, that's exactly what I mean about going with your first gut reaction to the cards. happy

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Sun 02/08/09 04:39 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Sun 02/08/09 04:41 AM
I have to admit that I am guilty of having someone do a Tarot card reading for me but I had no specific question in my mind. A guy did a reading on me and it was a spur of the moment kind of situation and he just sat me down and did it. This was a few years back. He also did a past life reading which was strange but very vivid. Evidently I was a male serf back in medieval Europe and had my hand cut off by my owner for stealing. shocked

So sometimes circumstances like this can arise where you don’t have enough time to ask a question or formulate something specific in your mind. I still found the reading very interesting and suprisingly specific. This guy seemed really in tune with something 'out there.'

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Sun 02/08/09 06:33 AM
Krimsa, that's totally different from when people ask you for a reading just for the fun of it. They are usually skeptics who are just testing you to see what you can do. It sounds like this guy felt he needed to do a reading for you and so he did.

sorry to hear about your hand. :tongue:

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Sun 02/08/09 06:36 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Sun 02/08/09 06:36 AM
I didnt ask him though, he offered. Im just saying because that was the circumstance at the time, I was not prepared to offer him any kind of question.