Topic: Sodom and Gomorrah: Whats the deal?
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Thu 12/25/08 05:13 AM
Edited by CircuitRider on Thu 12/25/08 05:24 AM
I'm outta here....

But, leaving with this...

It's NOT ALL about believing IN GOD, it's about believing WHAT HE SAYS -- He stands by His promises.

He doesn't want the disobedient around him, He wants those who WILL OBEY Him.



The Heavens and Earth belong to Him alone.... He can do with them how He chooses, for He has NO ONE to answer to but Himself.....

He has chosen to spare us, by allowing His ONLY SON to be SACRIFICED. Then returning life to Him, finally taking HIS SON up in body to sit on the place of greatest honor... GOD's Right Hand.

This came from obedience from The Father....

Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, and to this day, mankind hasn't learned how to use it, and never will on it's own.noway


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Thu 12/25/08 05:16 AM

I think that he was a little more afraid of God than the idiots outside his door, but I also think that he had his priorities all wrong. I don't remember it saying he was righteous, but Abraham did ask God to spare the city etc... I think he was saved as a favor to Abraham.


Yes he is called "righteous" in the story. I would have to look it up though to find the exact passage. Thats what people are always complaining about. The fact that god considers him a swell dude even after he offered his two virgin daughters to an angry mob that had collected outside of his home. So I dont think we have to go digging up the passage unless you just dont believe it and then I will find it for you. Let me know.

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Thu 12/25/08 05:17 AM

I'm outta here....

But, leaving with this...

It's NOT ALL about believing IN GOD, it's about believing WHAT HE SAYS -- He stands by His promises.

He doesn't want the disobedient around him, He wants those who WILL OBEY Him.



Well I will leave you with this then, thats a load of crap. It sounds like he wants "sheeples" that will commit horrible crimes against their own flesh and blood for him.

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Thu 12/25/08 05:39 AM

I know, I know, its probably been done. But since its Christmas time and all....Lot refuses to give up his angels to the perverted mob, offering his two "virgin daughters" instead. He tells the bunch of angel rapers to "do unto them {his daughters} as is good in your eyes." This is the same man that is called "just" and "righteous".

How do folks feel about this? huh


It's a sad time when someone can't give their daighters to an angry mob with rape and death on their minds.
I mean just last week I......well that a whole diffrent thred.

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Thu 12/25/08 05:55 AM
God didn't tell Lot

to do what he did.

That was Lot's doing.

Despites man's shortcomings and

messed up ways,

God still loves us all...and wants

to save us all...

just like God tried to save even

Sodom and Gomorrah ,......but they

wouldn't listen.

Yet God loves all people.....

including messed up imperfect

people...

which we all are....and God wants to

save us all...and is reaching out

to all man....still.

:heart::heart::heart:

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Thu 12/25/08 05:58 AM
Morningsong said;

God didn't tell Lot

to do what he did.

That was Lot's doing.


Thats the point MS. Lot took it upon himself to do this. The reason doesnt matter as people can argue that. But after he does this, God refers to him as a "just" man and a "righteous" man. That is the point of contention and where some of us question the benevolence of your tyrant. Especially in regards to his female children.

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Thu 12/25/08 07:28 AM
Just another hollow man made BS story, with some mystical pillar of salt transformation. I learned along time ago that Science Fiction is just that, FICTION!

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Thu 12/25/08 07:36 AM
That also pisses me off.

Cain's wife-unknown

Lot's wife-unnamed-Turned to salt

Lot's daughters-unnamed-Offered to angry mob as sacrificial lambs to be raped and potentially murdered.

The bible certainly casts no illusions on its misogynist undertones. They arent even undertones. They are overtones. grumble

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Thu 12/25/08 08:49 AM

That also pisses me off.

Cain's wife-unknown

Lot's wife-unnamed-Turned to salt

Lot's daughters-unnamed-Offered to angry mob as sacrificial lambs to be raped and potentially murdered.

The bible certainly casts no illusions on its misogynist undertones. They arent even undertones. They are overtones. grumble



Your not the only one, Its a pretty disgusting and subjegative. Half of that book would make the perpriotors of the black and blue ball proud! LOL

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Thu 12/25/08 08:53 AM

That also pisses me off.

Cain's wife-unknown

Lot's wife-unnamed-Turned to salt

Lot's daughters-unnamed-Offered to angry mob as sacrificial lambs to be raped and potentially murdered.

The bible certainly casts no illusions on its misogynist undertones. They arent even undertones. They are overtones. grumble


My ex used to love that about the bible. laugh

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Thu 12/25/08 09:48 AM
Some men have no problem with these issues as it relates to the typical treatment of women in the scripture because they are simply insensitive to it and it doesn't effect them. They are male and men take center stage throughout the bible.

Many men clearly pick up on it and it bothers them however.

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Thu 12/25/08 09:53 AM

Some men have no problem with these issues as it relates to the typical treatment of women in the scripture because they are simply insensitive to it and it doesn't effect them. They are male and men take center stage throughout the bible.

Many men clearly pick up on it and it bothers them however.


Who are these men and where can I get one? laugh

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Thu 12/25/08 09:57 AM
A couple guys on the thread even mentioned their distaste for it. I think men that generally have a caring or protective nature dont like the abuses of women in the bible.

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Thu 12/25/08 10:01 AM

A couple guys on the thread even mentioned their distaste for it. I think men that generally have a caring or protective nature dont like the abuses of women in the bible.


I know...I was just kidding. I don't mean to sound as though I am a man-hater. Just for today I'm wallowing in self-pity. laugh

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Thu 12/25/08 10:06 AM
I know. Im just kidding myself. Then god goes and kills every man woman and child and infant in the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by pouring hot sulfur on them or something from the sky. Nice. happy Its also never really made clear what their crimes were exactly. huh

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Thu 12/25/08 10:06 AM


A couple guys on the thread even mentioned their distaste for it. I think men that generally have a caring or protective nature dont like the abuses of women in the bible.


I know...I was just kidding. I don't mean to sound as though I am a man-hater. Just for today I'm wallowing in self-pity. laugh


as opposed to yesterday ?...lol...why so glum chum ?...just think...in less then a week...it will be a new year...we all get to start from scratch...:smile:

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Thu 12/25/08 10:21 AM



A couple guys on the thread even mentioned their distaste for it. I think men that generally have a caring or protective nature dont like the abuses of women in the bible.


I know...I was just kidding. I don't mean to sound as though I am a man-hater. Just for today I'm wallowing in self-pity. laugh


as opposed to yesterday ?...lol...why so glum chum ?...just think...in less then a week...it will be a new year...we all get to start from scratch...:smile:


Okay, you're right. I'll put a time limit on this party. How about 30 more minutes?

Actually, I'm about done now. I'm wasting too much time on this. smile2

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Thu 12/25/08 10:26 AM




A couple guys on the thread even mentioned their distaste for it. I think men that generally have a caring or protective nature dont like the abuses of women in the bible.


I know...I was just kidding. I don't mean to sound as though I am a man-hater. Just for today I'm wallowing in self-pity. laugh


as opposed to yesterday ?...lol...why so glum chum ?...just think...in less then a week...it will be a new year...we all get to start from scratch...:smile:


Okay, you're right. I'll put a time limit on this party. How about 30 more minutes?

Actually, I'm about done now. I'm wasting too much time on this. smile2


always remember...the tragedy of life is ...not that it ends so soon...but...that we wait so long to begin it...:smile:

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Thu 12/25/08 10:28 AM


always remember...the tragedy of life is ...not that it ends so soon...but...that we wait so long to begin it...:smile:



drinker drinker drinker

(almost put a flower! laugh )

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Thu 12/25/08 10:32 AM



always remember...the tragedy of life is ...not that it ends so soon...but...that we wait so long to begin it...:smile:



drinker drinker drinker

(almost put a flower! laugh )


I hope thats coffee...I'm hungover...sick ...lol...gulp !!