Topic: Sodom and Gomorrah: Whats the deal?
Ruth34611's photo
Thu 12/25/08 10:36 AM




always remember...the tragedy of life is ...not that it ends so soon...but...that we wait so long to begin it...:smile:



drinker drinker drinker

(almost put a flower! laugh )


I hope thats coffee...I'm hungover...sick ...lol...gulp !!


Whatever you would like. :thumbsup:

Giocamo's photo
Thu 12/25/08 10:37 AM





always remember...the tragedy of life is ...not that it ends so soon...but...that we wait so long to begin it...:smile:



drinker drinker drinker

(almost put a flower! laugh )


I hope thats coffee...I'm hungover...sick ...lol...gulp !!


Whatever you would like. :thumbsup:



nessuno commento...gulp !!

Ruth34611's photo
Thu 12/25/08 10:57 AM






always remember...the tragedy of life is ...not that it ends so soon...but...that we wait so long to begin it...:smile:



drinker drinker drinker

(almost put a flower! laugh )


I hope thats coffee...I'm hungover...sick ...lol...gulp !!


Whatever you would like. :thumbsup:



nessuno commento...gulp !!


I will have to google that one when I get home.

Krimsa's photo
Thu 12/25/08 10:58 AM
No comment in Italian.

Ruth34611's photo
Thu 12/25/08 11:12 AM
Edited by Ruth34611 on Thu 12/25/08 11:13 AM
blushing Giocamo, were you flirting with me? blushing

Giocamo's photo
Thu 12/25/08 11:27 AM

blushing Giocamo, were you flirting with me? blushing


when ?...is that what I was doing ?...lol..I guess I just like laughter...which as we know...is most enjoyable...when shared...

Ruth34611's photo
Thu 12/25/08 11:32 AM


blushing Giocamo, were you flirting with me? blushing


when ?...is that what I was doing ?...lol..I guess I just like laughter...which as we know...is most enjoyable...when shared...


My mistake. :smile: more coffee? drinker

Giocamo's photo
Thu 12/25/08 11:41 AM



blushing Giocamo, were you flirting with me? blushing


when ?...is that what I was doing ?...lol..I guess I just like laughter...which as we know...is most enjoyable...when shared...


My mistake. :smile: more coffee? drinker


let's make that spiked eggnog...drinker ...blushing

Krimsa's photo
Thu 12/25/08 11:46 AM
Do you like eggnog? I cant get myself to like it. It has a funny taste but everyone else seems to love it. noway

Ruth34611's photo
Thu 12/25/08 11:49 AM


let's make that spiked eggnog...drinker ...blushing


Guess your hangover is better. laugh

Giocamo's photo
Thu 12/25/08 11:53 AM

Do you like eggnog? I cant get myself to like it. It has a funny taste but everyone else seems to love it. noway


yes I love it !...although I know it's not the best thing in the world for ya'...damn !...

Giocamo's photo
Thu 12/25/08 11:54 AM



let's make that spiked eggnog...drinker ...blushing


Guess your hangover is better. laugh


a little better...been chuggin' water...***burp***...cuse me...lol

MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 12/25/08 12:33 PM
:smile: People in the past had different values than they do now.:smile:Why are some of you people incapable of understanding this?:smile:

MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 12/25/08 12:34 PM




let's make that spiked eggnog...drinker ...blushing


Guess your hangover is better. laugh


a little better...been chuggin' water...***burp***...cuse me...lol
laugh laugh laugh laugh

MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 12/25/08 12:37 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Thu 12/25/08 12:37 PM

God didn't tell Lot

to do what he did.

That was Lot's doing.

Despites man's shortcomings and

messed up ways,

God still loves us all...and wants

to save us all...

just like God tried to save even

Sodom and Gomorrah ,......but they

wouldn't listen.

Yet God loves all people.....

including messed up imperfect

people...

which we all are....and God wants to

save us all...and is reaching out

to all man....still.

:heart::heart::heart:
:smile: Lot had different values than we have MS.:smile: People in the past had different values.:smile: He was obeying the law of hospitality.:smile: The law of hospitality was extremely important in the ancient past.:smile: You had to protect any guest in your home no matter what the price.:smile: This made him righteous.:smile:

Krimsa's photo
Thu 12/25/08 12:39 PM

:smile: People in the past had different values than they do now.:smile:Why are some of you people incapable of understanding this?:smile:


We know that women were treated much more harshly in Judaic culture during this specific time period. That does not make it right. Basing your holy book on it doesn't either. It makes it all the worse.

MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 12/25/08 12:47 PM
Edited by MirrorMirror on Thu 12/25/08 12:47 PM


:smile: People in the past had different values than they do now.:smile:Why are some of you people incapable of understanding this?:smile:


We know that women were treated much more harshly in Judaic culture during this specific time period. That does not make it right. Basing your holy book on it doesn't either. It makes it all the worse.
laugh Now your not even making any senselaugh

Krimsa's photo
Thu 12/25/08 12:50 PM
How does that not make sense? What do you not understand?

MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 12/25/08 12:57 PM

How does that not make sense? What do you not understand?
:smile: I dont understand why you seemingly are unable to grasp the concept that people in Lots time had different social values than we have now. :smile: Their definition of righteous is not our definition of righteous.:smile:I think you probably understand this but are just being contrary.:smile: Being a "Funch".:tongue:

Krimsa's photo
Thu 12/25/08 01:05 PM
Im not being a Funch. Im asking how a person could be considered "righteous" or "just" while offering his own children to an unruly mob. Okay so your answer is well, culturally that was acceptable at the time. It woudnt have been considered that bad.

I am saying I do not find that answer acceptable based on the fact that god is supposed to be this benevolent, loving, omniscient, omnipotent being. The justification of brutal, selfish acts would be inconsistent with omniscience. It would be very consistent with men who put very little value on the worth of females however.