Basically JB(in a nutshell), they believe that the Galactic federation was hundreds of planets (in this galaxy). Xenu was their elected leader (like a president). He didnt want to give up power so he started a massive conflict that ended up destroying most of the life in the galaxy.In the end he was defeated by a small group of "Loyal Officers" and imprisoned in a force field (on Mars).Xenu is immortal.The billions of galactic aliens that he killed with his various plots caused "psychic damage" to the space-time continuum. This is what the "body thetans" are. Psychic/spiritual remnants of dead alien memories(parasitic alien ghosts). All of this took place before humans evolved on Earth. That is basically what Hubbard said in a nutshell.

Translated: To deal with humanities body thetan infestation and restore the Galactic Federation.

help TOM CRUISE
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Scientology or the psychology or philosophy there of is pop psy, a little cognitive psy and the relentless impulse in humans to assert there beliefs and even invite conflict, who would the believer be without the unbeliever? Another sad attempt at moral superiority and the erroneous belief this gives you the power to dictate and judge the lives of others, when in fact spirituality and emapthy come from a state that does not involve the compulsion to judge and demean other or the right to because you belive your perspective is correct. At leaset thats how it appears in practice e.g. tom cruise

Excellent observation.






Thank you for sharing.

Far in the past before Atlantis existed,
men there were who delved into darkness,
using dark magic, calling up beings
from the great deep below us.
Forth came they into this cycle.
Formless were they of another vibration,
existing unseen by the children of earth-men.
Only through blood could they have formed being.
Only through man could they live in the world.

In ages past were they conquered by Masters,
driven below to the place whence they came.
But some there were who remained,
hidden in spaces and planes unknown to man.
Lived they in Atlantis as shadows,
but at times they appeared among men.
Aye, when the blood was offered,
for they came they to dwell among men.

In the form of man they amongst us,
but only to sight were they as are men.
Serpent-headed when the glamour was lifted
but appearing to man as men among men.
Crept they into the Councils,
taking forms that were like unto men.

Slaying by their arts
the chiefs of the kingdoms,
taking their form and ruling o'er man.
Only by magic could they be discovered.
Only by sound could their faces be seen.
Sought they from the Kingdom of shadows
to destroy man and rule in his place.

But, know ye, the Masters were mighty in magic,
able to lift the Veil from the face of the serpent,
able to send him back to his place.
Came they to man and taught him the secret,
the WORD that only a man can pronounce.
Swift then they lifted the Veil from the serpent
and cast him forth from the place among men.

Yet, beware, the serpent still liveth
in a place that is open at times to the world.
Unseen they walk among thee
in places where the rites have been said.
Again as time passes onward
shall they take the semblance of men.

Oh hey has anyone heard of the e-meter? This is funny they call it an energy meter as a test for well being you hold contacts and awnser questions, the "e-meter" measures skin conductance so it is in fact a low budget lie detector. The implications are obvious, i would not go to them to learn about spirituality.

Got one

A couple corrections...

E-Meter stands for “electropsychometer” not “energy meter”

Answering questions while holding the contacts has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with any “test for well being”.

Check it out.

Its Xenu's space ship

Just like Hubbard described it.

FIrst of all its not important, second of all no awnsering questions does not, however talking can help, third of all, what your point?

ROFL

Anyway my point I think is obvious.

I really don't know if this point has been made or not. I could not bring myself to read all the way through all this. call it ignorance or arrogance. who knows. I just know when to listen to the little voice in my head that screams "bullsheet!!"

However!! let's flip the coin a tad. Many of those who do attack the church of scientology or the organization... or what ever the heck it is... Anyways... Many of those who attack scientology hold beliefs that are almost as outrageous. Whether they be stories of dancing and drinking gods waring with each other or a single god with a son who walked on water.

Stories such as a man being swallowed by a whale and then asking for forgiveness which in turn grants the man freedom in the form of a whale puking. (yes yes short sweet and to the point. left out alot of details and made alot of generalizations. yet, you know what? you read the story too and it pretty much comes out like i told it. just much more fluffy around the edges than my version.)

Now ask your self. Is a man being swallowed by a whale who askes forgivness and is saved by whale indigestion more believeable or not than a story about DC8's dropping eople, or aliens, into volcanos? (sadly for our scientologists... i highly doubt hawaii wasn't even a twinkle in our planet's eye yet, 75M years ago. perhaps someone could confirm this for me. I do not have the time today to research the origin of hawaii on the internet.)

Anyways... Stories such as these are found within many accepted religious practices.

I mean come on... A man who stood hundreds of feet tall eats his children and the one that gets away kills him? (Chronos and zues)

The point is... Many religions have radical stories which help define the core morals and messages which they wish to pass on. It's not necessarily the validity of the context, but the truth in the message behind the story. It boils down to what the individual gets out of his or her beliefs. Who are we to condemn any organization based on the beliefs the hold.

That is to say unless they believe in freely killing of those who don't believe, but then again havn't most religions been guilty of just that in the past and even the not too distant past?

I say let them be and if they wish to believe in little green men in tights wisking people off to salvation then let em. (i know it's probably more than that, but i still don't like it.)

I personally believe they are full of just as much BS as most other religions and that no one has the right answer. It's pretty much everyone's best guess. All we can expect from anyone is to live a good free life without stepping on too many people's toes.

I don't condone anything scientology does or teaches, but then i won't say they're wrong either. why? because i personally don't know the truth. After all. i wasn't, nor were any of you, around 75 million years ago. And for that matter IF we were i think we'd be more worried about the T-rex chasing our tastey arses rather than the flying shiny thing dropping green men into volcanos.

just my oppinion i guess.

I just feel sorry for anyone attempting to come "rehabilitate" me. I really don't want to have to clean up the mess. :P

So i suppose "to each their own." one of my favorite sayings. I only wish i knew who first said that.

I'll catch yall later. :) it's off to te modern era's version of hell for me. the DMV!!! noooooooooooooooooooo!!!!! lol

Keep those minds strong all!! :D

Good point