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Topic: Gay Marriage should be legal!
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Tue 12/09/08 05:09 PM
My friend just pointed out that we could absolutely prove Christians wrong with the very same book by pointing out the vast inconsistencies. But I just told her that that's not possible if one refuses to see the inconsistency.

I don't think there is any way for Christians to resolve this issue, it will be resolved by free thinkers and science or maybe intellecutual evolution eventually, if we humans in this world don't all kill each other over religion way before that time comes.

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Tue 12/09/08 05:10 PM

Christianity.....ALWAYS getting attacked.




Because christians keep wanting to turn their views into my laws.

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Tue 12/09/08 05:11 PM



Christianity.....ALWAYS getting attacked.


Might we be angry with the lack of willingness to reconsider some of the teachings that have caused so much pain in those that don't believe as you do, etc?. Or the unwillingness to acknowledge that slavery and wife beating and other atrocities in the bible were wrong to condone, and that it is very possible that because they were condoned that you might also have been believing bad information about people like gays that you really know nothing about?

Do you have any idea how many young kids have taken their own lives because they have no one to go to with their secret that they were gay? I personally blame religion for their lost lives and self righteous followers who assume the know the mind of God. I blame religion for forcing men and women to be given no choice but to marry only to have to divorce years later because they could not longer deny who they were.

The church blames the gay partner for not being honest. But the church put them in that position in the first place by demanding that they obey god..

If they wanted to be accepted by their church and family they had to be something they were not. Do you know how many young people are thrown from their homes with no ability to care for themselves because their Christian parents disown them?

Is that Christianity being attacked? Or is it the followers, or both?

Yes we are upset, and more upset that you don't have a clue why...


AND, Christians are very upset...............and more upset that you don't have a clue why.

YES BOTH CHRISTIANS AND CHRISTIANITY ARE CONSTANTLY ATTACKED IN THIS FORUM.....JUST READ THE POSTS............





dang Lindy...I see you're still hanging in their...lol...good luck...you'll need it...:smile:

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Tue 12/09/08 05:12 PM


Christianity.....ALWAYS getting attacked.




Because christians keep wanting to turn their views into my laws.


Oh, NOW I understand-YOUR laws..............NOT the laws of the USA....

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Tue 12/09/08 05:13 PM
what is wrong with the simple explanation of birds and bees.

suddenlly...the world has changed...

wow..WOMAN has evolved into a species that can BREED together!!

YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

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Tue 12/09/08 05:15 PM
Edited by Winx on Tue 12/09/08 05:37 PM
I'm going to open a can of worms here. I'm going to talk religion. I don't usually do that.

This is my opinion:

God made everything and everybody. That means that God made hermaphrodites, gay people and straight people.




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Tue 12/09/08 05:20 PM

what is wrong with the simple explanation of birds and bees.

suddenlly...the world has changed...

wow..WOMAN has evolved into a species that can BREED together!!

YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY


Geez, where ya been Catwoman, the world hasn't changed we have always been around, while you were busy not noticing. Ugh, there's no end to you guys proving my point. So I guess if you won't stop, gays won't either until this is resolved.

winx, I love talking religion but not like this, in fact I have had some really interesting conversations about jesus and budism and a few others that were extremely uplifting, but there is huge difference in the way it's discussed. Oh crap, menopause is setting in and I can't remember what the heck I was going to say.. ugh frustration city....

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Tue 12/09/08 05:32 PM

Oh, NOW I understand-YOUR laws..............NOT the laws of the USA....


I certainly would have said my laws and I doubt that is what he meant
...

I never felt included in OUR laws in the USA, I always knew who they favored, must be nice, would love to know what it feels like to be a full fledged accepted American, cuz I certainly don't know and I was born here. When you have time to spare maybe you will share what if feels to automatically enjoy your the full benefit of living in America.

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Tue 12/09/08 05:35 PM
Oh ya, I would specifically like to know what it feels like to marry the person you love.. that must be really awesome.. Get it yet?

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Tue 12/09/08 05:37 PM




Christianity.....ALWAYS getting attacked.




AND, Christians are very upset...............and more upset that you don't have a clue why.

YES BOTH CHRISTIANS AND CHRISTIANITY ARE CONSTANTLY ATTACKED IN THIS FORUM.....JUST READ THE POSTS............





dang Lindy...I see you're still hanging in their...lol...good luck...you'll need it...:smile:


YEP!!!
ROMANS 8:31....
31What, then, shall we say in response to this? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? 33Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34Who is he that condemns? Christ Jesus, who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us.

I have GOD on MY SIDE!flowers

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Tue 12/09/08 05:41 PM









Do you justify how the American military POW's were tortured in that same war? How about how our POW's were tortured in Viet Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan?

Do you approve of that? DO YOU APPROVE OF HOW OUR TROOPS WERE BEHEADED, BODIES RAVAGED AND DISMEMBERED, BEHEADED IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN?

Why not support our troops instead of belittling them?

This has been on the news, some people just want to dismiss it or say they deserved it....my neighbor's son who was killed in April in Iraq, told of what took place in Iraq....so I have first hand knowledge...

Such pathetic pity that our troops are treated with such disrepect.....

Lindyy
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Ummm....where did I ever say that I approved of other countries' form of torture? Ummm...where did I say that I didn't support our troops? Sheesh.

The topic I was talking about was how we treated Japanese-Americans after the Pearl Harbor attack. Your post takes through every war since that event.


You Never COMMENTED on how POWs and USA troops were tortured........so I can assume that you approve of it.........




Thanks for putting words into my mouth.slaphead frustrated


Well then once again I put before you .... "Why not support our troops instead of belittling them?"

Do you or do you not support the military of the USA who has fought and sacrificed their lives for us over the centuries, decades....?



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Tue 12/09/08 05:43 PM

I'm going to open a can of worms here. I'm going to talk religion. I don't usually do that.

This is my opinion:

God made everything and everybody. That means that God made hermaphrodites, gay people and straight people.






God DID NOT CREATE SIN..........MAN DID.........

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Tue 12/09/08 05:48 PM










Do you justify how the American military POW's were tortured in that same war? How about how our POW's were tortured in Viet Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan?

Do you approve of that? DO YOU APPROVE OF HOW OUR TROOPS WERE BEHEADED, BODIES RAVAGED AND DISMEMBERED, BEHEADED IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN?

Why not support our troops instead of belittling them?

This has been on the news, some people just want to dismiss it or say they deserved it....my neighbor's son who was killed in April in Iraq, told of what took place in Iraq....so I have first hand knowledge...

Such pathetic pity that our troops are treated with such disrepect.....

Lindyy
:heart:




Ummm....where did I ever say that I approved of other countries' form of torture? Ummm...where did I say that I didn't support our troops? Sheesh.

The topic I was talking about was how we treated Japanese-Americans after the Pearl Harbor attack. Your post takes through every war since that event.


You Never COMMENTED on how POWs and USA troops were tortured........so I can assume that you approve of it.........




Thanks for putting words into my mouth.slaphead frustrated


Well then once again I put before you .... "Why not support our troops instead of belittling them?"

Do you or do you not support the military of the USA who has fought and sacrificed their lives for us over the centuries, decades....?





I HAVE NOT BELITTLED THEM!!!

I support our military. That doesn't mean that I can't comment on how people were treated in WWII if I don't believe in that treatment.

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Tue 12/09/08 05:48 PM



Christianity.....ALWAYS getting attacked.




Because christians keep wanting to turn their views into my laws.


Oh, NOW I understand-YOUR laws..............NOT the laws of the USA....


please tell me your joking and that your realy not that thick.
The laws of the USA govern me so yes they are my laws.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exDo2SMdB-0

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Tue 12/09/08 05:49 PM


I'm going to open a can of worms here. I'm going to talk religion. I don't usually do that.

This is my opinion:

God made everything and everybody. That means that God made hermaphrodites, gay people and straight people.






God DID NOT CREATE SIN..........MAN DID.........


I wasn't talking about sin.

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Tue 12/09/08 05:50 PM
Lindyy says: I have God on MY SIDE!

I'm happy for you, again, must be nice, Lindyy, you have god on your side, the laws in your favor, really really must be a good feeling. I sincerely understand why you wouldn't want to have to share that with just anyone......

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Tue 12/09/08 05:54 PM
Edited by Lindyy on Tue 12/09/08 05:54 PM

Lindyy says: I have God on MY SIDE!

I'm happy for you, again, must be nice, Lindyy, you have god on your side, the laws in your favor, really really must be a good feeling. I sincerely understand why you wouldn't want to have to share that with just anyone......


I have found favor in the eyes of God through my acceptance of His son as my Lord and Saviour.....that is all that matters to me..........

Lindyy
:heart:

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Tue 12/09/08 05:55 PM
Edited by Seamonster on Tue 12/09/08 05:56 PM



I'm going to open a can of worms here. I'm going to talk religion. I don't usually do that.

This is my opinion:

God made everything and everybody. That means that God made hermaphrodites, gay people and straight people.






God DID NOT CREATE SIN..........MAN DID.........


I wasn't talking about sin.


so hermaphordites are just sinning by being born that way?
Did god make them?
Why would he do that?
your logic breaks down very quick.


oops directed at the quote above the last one lol sorry i jacked it.

Winx's photo
Tue 12/09/08 05:57 PM




I'm going to open a can of worms here. I'm going to talk religion. I don't usually do that.

This is my opinion:

God made everything and everybody. That means that God made hermaphrodites, gay people and straight people.






God DID NOT CREATE SIN..........MAN DID.........


I wasn't talking about sin.


so hermaphordites are just sinning by being born that way?
Did god make them?
Why would he do that?
your logic breaks down very quick.


I don't think hermaphrodites are sinning!!!noway They were born that way.

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Tue 12/09/08 06:01 PM
gay men believe god created adam and steve

lesbians believe god created ellen and the LPGAlaugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

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