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Topic: Gay Marriage should be legal!
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Sat 12/06/08 12:54 AM
Edited by Lindyy on Sat 12/06/08 01:17 AM



I believe that our beloved Freddy was rather sneaky don't you? And did in his own many ways promote freedom of choice in sexuality in his music. If you don't believe me go read some more of Queen's lyrics on www.elyrics.net



shocked "SNEAKY" pretty nasty statement to make.....shocked

slaphead Talk about distorting/taking out of context.....no way is that song about homosexuality:slaphead

Your "take" on this song is TOTALLY opposite of what the rest of the music world says it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSADxMocaHs

"Don't Stop Me Now was voted "The Greatest Driving Song Ever" by viewers of the BBC television program Top Gear. (*Music video from Pstonie of http://www.ggcmedia.com, with lovely shots of zooming cars)

Don't Stop Me Now is a 1979 hit single by Queen, from their 1978 album Jazz. Words and music were by Freddie Mercury.

"I'm gonna go, go, go there's no stopping me / I'm burning through the sky yeah 200 degrees... " "



My dear I have been an avid fan of Freddie and Queen from day one.....you're speaking to the wrong person on this subject.......and NO he did NOT promote freedom of choice in any of his songs.....I will leave it at that......

Lindyy

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Sat 12/06/08 12:56 AM


Also, Freddie Mercury was the greatest singer in Rock and Roll history drinker


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LINDYY
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Sat 12/06/08 08:24 AM
Edited by boo2u on Sat 12/06/08 08:27 AM
To answer your question, no I didn't follow or study Freddie, at the time I was more into philosophy and self awareness and that sort of thing, studying Buddhism etc to see what that was all about.

But I know the conflicts he experienced as a gay entertainer, I was myself for a short time in the early 70's. I could not handle being in the spotlight, so I knew show business was not for me. I only saw the documentary on his life. I remember dancing to his music but I never really followed anyone as a fan.

I do think you really have to be gay to understand his inner conflict as a gay bi person and being in the public view. And I know all too well the double talk gay guys used in explaining their sex life to the public, it was not unusual for gay guys to claim a woman as their one true love. My own brother did it to keep the public in the dark.

Being a fan of Freddie while not being all that accepting of gay issues would be a conflict in itself I would think, but then I didn't really want to go too far off topic with Freddie. I prefer to see the whole person. Sure he has his demons, but I look at other things that he also brought to the table.

Oh and one other thing, would it have been so bad if he HAD expressed his sexuality in his music? I wrote songs about my life but wrote them so they could not be identified as strictly gay, though those that knew me knew different. I think Freddie could have advanced choice in his songs, and I wouldn't have had a problem with that, or course.. lol



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Sat 12/06/08 09:17 AM


To me, marrige is simply a tradition of the Christian churches for couples who are in love and vow to stay together. So in that light; gays shouldn't be allowed to marry because it goes against the bible and is considered a sin by most high ranking Bishops.

But i do also believe that gays should get the same benefits as marriage, like tax breaks, and other things that come with it (never been married so i don't know what all happens). I think people are more scared that their tradition will mean nothing and feel let down if the churches allowed gay marriage in a church. Maybe instead of calling it gay marriage they should call it "gay binding" or "gay coupling" and people won't get so heated about it.

Also, Freddie Mercury was the greatest singer in Rock and Roll history drinker


See that isn't so hard! I can agree with it.


so straight marriages should be called straight bindings or straight couplings?

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Sat 12/06/08 09:20 AM
Sometimes the word "SNEAKY" is not a bad thing. For a ninja perhaps it's a compliment. And I don't think I need to point out that Freddy's music was pretty obviously flambouant (also no a bad word) though no less provoacative and entertaining.

I do love Queen and though I may not have been around when they first started out that doesn't make me any less of a fan then you Lindyy. I did see the documentary on Freddy and watched it from beginning to end- twice.

He was amazing but I think Boo said it better then me when she pointed out the being a fan bit not at all accepting of the issues he faced in his day to day life is sort of...lame.

I mean...especially since the experiences a person goes through- go into shaping who they are just the same as morals and anything you learn through out your life. Facts are Freddy was gay and most people (who are empathetic or who understand what trials he would have gone through) wouldn't have him any other way.

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Sat 12/06/08 09:39 AM



To me, marrige is simply a tradition of the Christian churches for couples who are in love and vow to stay together. So in that light; gays shouldn't be allowed to marry because it goes against the bible and is considered a sin by most high ranking Bishops.

But i do also believe that gays should get the same benefits as marriage, like tax breaks, and other things that come with it (never been married so i don't know what all happens). I think people are more scared that their tradition will mean nothing and feel let down if the churches allowed gay marriage in a church. Maybe instead of calling it gay marriage they should call it "gay binding" or "gay coupling" and people won't get so heated about it.

Also, Freddie Mercury was the greatest singer in Rock and Roll history drinker


See that isn't so hard! I can agree with it.


so straight marriages should be called straight bindings or straight couplings?


For sure! I'd like to see marriage abolished.

Personally, I think marriage is an arcaic practice and as a woman want no part in it. It's from a time when women were no better then a piece of furniture. Who wants to spend that much on a dress you'll only wear once anyways!

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Sat 12/06/08 11:50 AM
I fight for this issue because others in my community want and deserve it, but I never really cared about the whole marriage thing myself when I was younger. Probably because at that age we do tend to be more self centered and often don't think about the legal issues etc surrounding marriage that are important to a straight or gay couple.

I never wanted the option if the Majority couldn't give it from the heart. But I was young then. Now I see it as more of a legal matter that is definitely important in this day and age, and especially at my age. I am 13 years older than my partner, I want to know that she is taken care of if I pass before her. I don't want family members or the courts to give her a hard time, on top of dealing with the passing.

Marriage itself to me would only be a label that describes the rights you have. My partner and I aren't all that emotional about this sort of thing, that is probably why we get along so well.

For others it's much more, and I am fine with that too, It's just sad that my fellow human being would not see me and my partner as deserving of the very thing they take for granted, and sadder still that it would be up to another tax paying citizen to decide another's fate in a free country. I know very well they would not like that if the tables where turned.

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Sat 12/06/08 11:59 AM
Once again, you make me nod and smile one of the saddest smiles I'm able Boo. flowerforyou

People can't seem to see past their own noses for one miniscule second to try to see what it would be like to experience what the other person does. Instead, they inject disease and religion into their arguements like they have the right to judge any more then the next guy.

I was taught "Judge not lest thee be judged" from a small age. I know that if I did WANT to be married to an individual (and the feeling was mutual) and could not, I'd feel hopeless first and then I'd go down fighting to be able to have that right.


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Sat 12/06/08 12:18 PM
I'm betting that straight people would fight tooth and nail if their right to marry was taken away from them. I don't mean this towards those that support it, I mean those that think it is only meant for man and woman.

Marriage isn't in the cards for me and never will be. I will be single till the day I die.

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Sat 12/06/08 12:27 PM
Exactly. Straight people would fight with everything they had to not be denied that right.

But, a lot of them are hypocritical enough to deny that right of someone else based on differences that not only DO NOT affect them but that they are afraid of because they simply choose to be in the dark about such things.

Why can't they see the parallels?

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Sat 12/06/08 12:33 PM

Exactly. Straight people would fight with everything they had to not be denied that right.

But, a lot of them are hypocritical enough to deny that right of someone else based on differences that not only DO NOT affect them but that they are afraid of because they simply choose to be in the dark about such things.

Why can't they see the parallels?


fears instilled by organized religion which is the root of all evil

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Sat 12/06/08 04:24 PM
Edited by Lindyy on Sat 12/06/08 04:36 PM

Sometimes the word "SNEAKY" is not a bad thing. For a ninja perhaps it's a compliment. And I don't think I need to point out that Freddy's music was pretty obviously flambouant (also no a bad word) though no less provoacative and entertaining.

I do love Queen and though I may not have been around when they first started out that doesn't make me any less of a fan then you Lindyy. I did see the documentary on Freddy and watched it from beginning to end- twice.

He was amazing but I think Boo said it better then me when she pointed out the being a fan bit not at all accepting of the issues he faced in his day to day life is sort of...lame.

I mean...especially since the experiences a person goes through- go into shaping who they are just the same as morals and anything you learn through out your life. Facts are Freddy was gay and most people (who are empathetic or who understand what trials he would have gone through) wouldn't have him any other way.


WHO said I did not accept the issues he faced? Here I am, upholding and supporting Freddie.....loving him from beginning to end....following his career....studying his music and complex writing.....and to speak out against someone who calls him "SNEAKY" well......I call it LAME to resort to the word "Sneaky" as that in itself is defaming him.....and I find it rather hypocritical.......

Lindyy
Just do not understand people who "DO NOT GET IT"
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FREDDIE MERCURY:
My "talk" with Freddie (By LINDYY):

I asked him to find me SOMEBODY TO LOVE, he answered is it not enough that YOU'RE MY BEST FRIEND and that FRIENDS WILL BE FRIENDS RIGHT TO THE VERY END?

He said to me DON’T TRY SO HARD as I screamed back that I am so much UNDER PRESSURE - WHO WANTS TO LIVE FOREVER? He compassionately reminded me that ’today is our forever’ and with such compassion in his voice and soul said he understood that IT’S A HARD LIFE but said THE SHOW MUST GO ON.

He opined that THESE ARE THE DAYS OF OUR LIVES and as he sang in his awesome voice that "sometimes I get to feeling I was back in the old days, long ago, when we were kids when we were young. Things seemed so perfect, you know, the days were endless we were crazy we were young. The sun was always shining, we just lived for fun. Those were the days of our lives, the bad things in life were so few. You can't turn back the clock you can't turn back the tide...No use in sitting and thinking on what you did. These days are all gone now but some things remain, when I look and I find no change - but that one thing's still true, when I look and I find... I still love you."


Freddie said to SPREAD MY WINGS and to RIDE THE WILD WIND, that the ride would be A KIND OF MAGIC. Freddie took his awesome stance and said 'listen to me' while I sing this song for you, A WINTER’S TALE and let it rest in your heart.



My beloved Freddie Mercury, always in my heart.....Lindyy




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Sat 12/06/08 04:57 PM


gay marriage goes against everything god intended for the people. A man and a Woman should be married to go off and reproduce etc.



what does god have to do with it

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Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


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that says leave god out of it

so till you find a

nonreligious argument i agree it should be legal

unfortunatly this ammendment is pretty much been found to be ripped into so many shreds in todays society, that we are about the closest thing to a true capitolistic society there has ever been. Believe me they are getting ready to tru and take our guns away for real. they are scared. and why, when something gets scewed up, the first person to know about it and try to get away with scewing it up without consequences are always the same person.

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Sat 12/06/08 06:55 PM
GOD is everywhere. We should not have to make new laws to accomadate anyone. In the beginning God created Adam and Eve, not a Adam and Adam. For some reason American has become a "let's please everyone" except the majority! Shame on you all.

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Sat 12/06/08 07:17 PM

GOD is everywhere. We should not have to make new laws to accomadate anyone. In the beginning God created Adam and Eve, not a Adam and Adam. For some reason American has become a "let's please everyone" except the majority! Shame on you all.


Why shouldn't everybody be treated equally?

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Sat 12/06/08 07:24 PM

GOD is everywhere. We should not have to make new laws to accomadate anyone. In the beginning God created Adam and Eve, not a Adam and Adam. For some reason American has become a "let's please everyone" except the majority! Shame on you all.


yes the majority should be able to trample the rights of the minority.

You are right. We screwed up when we gave the blacks the right to vote, I mean come on they are a minority they diserve no rights.
I like the way you think.
You should come to the next klan rally.



Realy, this is not a democracy, it is a republic look up the diffrence.
So Shame On You!

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Sat 12/06/08 08:34 PM

GOD is everywhere. We should not have to make new laws to accomadate anyone. In the beginning God created Adam and Eve, not a Adam and Adam. For some reason American has become a "let's please everyone" except the majority! Shame on you all.


Regardless of whether you think it's ethical or not, we must allow it. Either allow it, or change what this country is based on. You probably think slavery is ok since it says so in that little book you worship. I feel sorry for you because you will never know the true meaning of diversity and tolerance.

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Sat 12/06/08 10:22 PM

GOD is everywhere. We should not have to make new laws to accomadate anyone. In the beginning God created Adam and Eve, not a Adam and Adam. For some reason American has become a "let's please everyone" except the majority! Shame on you all.

:banana: :banana: :banana: ...


Giocamo's photo
Sat 12/06/08 10:24 PM


GOD is everywhere. We should not have to make new laws to accomadate anyone. In the beginning God created Adam and Eve, not a Adam and Adam. For some reason American has become a "let's please everyone" except the majority! Shame on you all.


yes the majority should be able to trample the rights of the minority.

You are right. We screwed up when we gave the blacks the right to vote, I mean come on they are a minority they diserve no rights.
I like the way you think.
You should come to the next klan rally.



Realy, this is not a democracy, it is a republic look up the diffrence.
So Shame On You!





this is a recording...***beep ***

Winx's photo
Sat 12/06/08 10:24 PM


GOD is everywhere. We should not have to make new laws to accomadate anyone. In the beginning God created Adam and Eve, not a Adam and Adam. For some reason American has become a "let's please everyone" except the majority! Shame on you all.

:banana: :banana: :banana: ...




Why shouldn't everybody be treated equally?!

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