yes, any two adults whom decide to should be able to form a union of document to obtain the same legal status as a man and a woman can through a marriage.

Martymark,

I am glad you see what I am trying to say. I believe it's time to seperate the legal & social/religious aspects of marriage. I think it's the only way to be fair.

Trust me on this, I am not bringing "religion" into this by saying what I am about to say. Christ would have had the same view on the topic as we share. This is a legal issue only. That is what I meant by people using the constitution <abusing it> to fight their own little religious battles. love ya

I need the "PCs for Dummies" book. I need one for Vista too.

my only point for this post will be this...

There were many religions long before christianity and will probly be many more after.

Marriage was not always a religious thing. There was no religion involved in marriage. Marriage was just a convenience that was set up between families as a way to ensure that their daughter was taken care of.

It became a religious thing when christianity came to be. No, I am not slamming a religion honest and Lindyy knows I would never do that. Historically speaking though christianity brought a major change in the world as people were forced to convert (sorry but that is what the christian crusades were) and beliefs were changed including the way marriage worked.

Just like all other religions though there wil always be other religions and other people that are not religious.

My best friend is Protestant and feels that either gay marriage should be allowed or that all marriage should be abolished.

you mean the Constitution that grants the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness to all and the one that says all citizens are equal?

*edited due to a blond moment lol

Sadly, that is the one of which they speak. Even more sad. The supreme court has ruled on too many occasions that this document is up to interpretation.

I have removed several posts from this thread.

Please, no attacking/insulting others.

The judicial branch is set up to INTERPRET laws.....ALL laws of the USA, federal, state, local....even constitutional laws..... I thought people knew that was the purpose of the judicial branch......

THAT is why it is IMPORTANT to get judges who INTERPRET the law NOT CREATE laws, that is the job of the legislative branch......

LINDYY

It is also their job to ensure that the laws congress passes are fair to all.

It's supposed to be!

That can only be done if a case is brought before the courts....and the (well, I am referring to the Supreme Court now) court "Interprets"....

All law suits, legal actions are based on the laws of all different types even down to Wills, deeds....etc....everything is governed by a law....

What people do not realize is that basically, laws are there to protect and keep civility and order...... ex: can you imagine the chaos over someone's estate if certain laws were not set into place? People would be stealing from the estate before the deceased were even buried.....

Lindyy

Yes, it is truly sad when greed takes precedence over morality and fair play.

If people knew what the religious right has been doing in the past decade to make sure the supreme court goes their way they would be shocked. It amazes me how little voters know about such things. I bet you might be shocked at the laws that Bush is trying to get in under the wire right this very minute, that have no oversight, and that are intended to bog down Obama for months and years trying to stop them and you can bet these laws are not in favor of every day people.

We really need to get to know our government and how it works, and what law makers are doing behind the scenes. If you think our churches are sitting quietly by your mistaken. The Right will stop at nothing to achieve their goals and you can bet that blocking gay rights is part of that agenda. They will one day achieve amending the Constitution if and when we are not paying attention. The people that go to church have one function that that is to financially support what goes on behind closed doors, not to be aware of how they are manipulating church goers. Sound like a conspiracy. Nope, just a fact that we should be more aware of.

I spent my 20's thinking I had no control over what happens in my government, so I never voted, and I have since learned that you get what you deserve when you don't vote, or you don't do any research before you vote. Many many people knew that Bush would be a problem a big problem, but his campaign and what they campaigned on.. you know, abortion, gays, all the hot button issues they knew people would focus on... well we are here because we don't pay attention. Democrats I knew never thought anyone in their right mind would vote for Bush so some just didn't vote because they never thought he would win, but they should never have underestimated the power of the religious right to get out their base and believe me they did everything to get that base out, and well you know the rest.

I am glad to see more young people out fighting for the right's of gays to marry, we have stood silent way to long in to large a number.
Every minority has had to fight tooth and nail to get their rights, we aren't the first and probably won't be the last, but remember there are lots and lots of people on our side of this, so don't worry to much about those you can't get through to, because in most case you will never convince them even on a human emotional level.

The Religious right is doing nothing wrong or unconstitutional or different than what the left wing liberals have done over the past years.....

The "religious right" as you put it, are simply standing up for what they believe in (which they/we have a right to do, it is our country too), just as the non-relgious left has done.....

Lindyy

I don't know about that Gio.

I'm thinking that the men didn't want the women to have the behavior of making decisions.

69?

Well I would be interested in knowing what the left wing liberals have done in these past years to ammend the consitution, or to constrict rights to individuals.

I don't just research one side over another, there are things on both the right and left that I agree and disagree with, so I would be happy to hear what you have to say.

For obvious reasons I keep up with what the Christian Conservatives are up to in Washington and other places. I don't care for either side messing with my civil rights, you can believe that. But because gays don't have the same rights as straights do I especially keep an eye on the christian right, again for obvious reasons.