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Isn't is also un-American to not say the Pledge of Allegiance and also NOT place your hand over your heart during it.. refusing to wear an American flag pin and saying you're ashamed to be an American? You realize none of that, aside from wearing the pin, ever happened, right? Like, never? And the Pledge of Allegiance didn't have the fun "Under God" portion until 1954, right?  I corrected myself, sorry. How is that less American than sending our servicemen to die for no reason? Or dismantling our Constitution and Bill of Rights? Or just saying you don't support the President? Right wing people seem to forget it works both ways. |
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Americans are not a particular people from a particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of freedom. Everyone who holds to that spirit, everywhere, is an American. So look around you. You may find more Americans in your land than you thought were there. One day they will rise up and overthrow the old, ignorant, tired tyrants that trouble too many lands. Then those lands too will join the community of free and prosperous nations. http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-ferrara092501.shtml By Peter Ferrara, an associate professor of law at the George Mason University School of Law. None of those things make me any more nor any less American  -follow blindly is your choice -I chose to see where I'm going I say the Pledge when I feel like it I place my hand when I feel like it I wont wear a flag pin if it doesnt match the ensemble You got it. |
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Edited by
quiet_2008
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Thu 11/06/08 12:31 PM
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People dont have to support him if they dont agree with his views. You dont have to in a Democracy. If people didnt support Hitler, did that make them un-German? The majority of your people did not supoprt Bush for the best part of his career. Yep. And "my people" (seriously?) were called traitors and unAmerican for it. What's the difference? Your people, as in American people. I am British. Who cares what the difference is, just bacuase someone calls you a traitor it doesnt mean that you are one. Ah, sorry. Didn't realize you were a limey. It's mostly the "We can call you a traitor because we're real Americans, but we can bad mouth the President without being traitors because...." and the lack of logic past that. ummm isn't saying 'limey' racist? |
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Isn't is also un-American to not say the Pledge of Allegiance and also NOT place your hand over your heart during it.. refusing to wear an American flag pin and saying you're ashamed to be an American? Yes well LIBS don't want to be confused with the facts. hahaha. Ironic considering McCain provided no facts what-so-ever during his campaign regarding any of Obama's policies. Or that whole "war over WMD's" when there were no facts. Also, I'm not a liberal. |
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Yes well LIBS don't want to be confused with the facts. some wouldn't know a fact if it fell in front of them with a really big ribbon on which it said facts  |
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People dont have to support him if they dont agree with his views. You dont have to in a Democracy. If people didnt support Hitler, did that make them un-German? The majority of your people did not supoprt Bush for the best part of his career. Yep. And "my people" (seriously?) were called traitors and unAmerican for it. What's the difference? Your people, as in American people. I am British. Who cares what the difference is, just bacuase someone calls you a traitor it doesnt mean that you are one. Ah, sorry. Didn't realize you were a limey. It's mostly the "We can call you a traitor because we're real Americans, but we can bad mouth the President without being traitors because...." and the lack of logic past that. ummm isn't saying 'limey' racist? No. It's like the Brits calling us yanks. |
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Isn't is also un-American to not say the Pledge of Allegiance and also NOT place your hand over your heart during it.. refusing to wear an American flag pin and saying you're ashamed to be an American? You realize none of that, aside from wearing the pin, ever happened, right? Like, never? And the Pledge of Allegiance didn't have the fun "Under God" portion until 1954, right? count your blessings that you live a a country that YOU can state your opinion and be happy with it dispite whom ever is in power. some countries you would already have the secret police knocking down your door and carting you off never to be heard from again I corrected myself, sorry. How is that less American than sending our servicemen to die for no reason? Or dismantling our Constitution and Bill of Rights? Or just saying you don't support the President? Right wing people seem to forget it works both ways. |
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People dont have to support him if they dont agree with his views. You dont have to in a Democracy. If people didnt support Hitler, did that make them un-German? The majority of your people did not supoprt Bush for the best part of his career. Yep. And "my people" (seriously?) were called traitors and unAmerican for it. What's the difference? Your people, as in American people. I am British. Who cares what the difference is, just bacuase someone calls you a traitor it doesnt mean that you are one. Ah, sorry. Didn't realize you were a limey. It's mostly the "We can call you a traitor because we're real Americans, but we can bad mouth the President without being traitors because...." and the lack of logic past that. ummm isn't saying 'limey' racist? Wasn't intending it that way. My Brit friends all call themselves Limey Bastards, so take what you will. |
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well I'm not sayin, I'm just sayin
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Americans are not a particular people from a particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of freedom. Everyone who holds to that spirit, everywhere, is an American. So look around you. You may find more Americans in your land than you thought were there. One day they will rise up and overthrow the old, ignorant, tired tyrants that trouble too many lands. Then those lands too will join the community of free and prosperous nations. http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-ferrara092501.shtml By Peter Ferrara, an associate professor of law at the George Mason University School of Law. None of those things make me any more nor any less American -follow blindly is your choice -I chose to see where I'm going I say the Pledge when I feel like it I place my hand when I feel like it I wont wear a flag pin if it doesnt match the ensemble This is exactly the selfish spoiled brat attitude of the COUNTER culture that is the ruin of our nation. Thanks for pointing that out!!!! |
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Edited by
Unknow
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Thu 11/06/08 12:40 PM
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Americans are not a particular people from a particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of freedom. Everyone who holds to that spirit, everywhere, is an American. So look around you. You may find more Americans in your land than you thought were there. One day they will rise up and overthrow the old, ignorant, tired tyrants that trouble too many lands. Then those lands too will join the community of free and prosperous nations. http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-ferrara092501.shtml By Peter Ferrara, an associate professor of law at the George Mason University School of Law. None of those things make me any more nor any less American -follow blindly is your choice -I chose to see where I'm going I say the Pledge when I feel like it I place my hand when I feel like it I wont wear a flag pin if it doesnt match the ensemble This is exactly the selfish spoiled brat attitude of the COUNTER culture that is the ruin of our nation. Thanks for pointing that out!!!! |
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 I think the right wingers will be raptured right before Obama is sworn in.
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Americans are not a particular people from a particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of freedom. Everyone who holds to that spirit, everywhere, is an American. So look around you. You may find more Americans in your land than you thought were there. One day they will rise up and overthrow the old, ignorant, tired tyrants that trouble too many lands. Then those lands too will join the community of free and prosperous nations. http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-ferrara092501.shtml By Peter Ferrara, an associate professor of law at the George Mason University School of Law. None of those things make me any more nor any less American -follow blindly is your choice -I chose to see where I'm going I say the Pledge when I feel like it I place my hand when I feel like it I wont wear a flag pin if it doesnt match the ensemble This is exactly the selfish spoiled brat attitude of the COUNTER culture that is the ruin of our nation. Thanks for pointing that out!!!! wrong yet again - not an attitude my rights, my priviledge, my choice - like it, lump it, ignore it - your choice will not act how you think I should act, for I dont agree with you I wont follow blindly like some I chose to see where I am going and I take responsibility for my actions. COUNTER culture my eye, before you can say I did damage to this country, you must admit to all your faults and all the damages you partook in getting this great nation in the crises it faces now. But you do amuse me 
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Americans are not a particular people from a particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of freedom. Everyone who holds to that spirit, everywhere, is an American. So look around you. You may find more Americans in your land than you thought were there. One day they will rise up and overthrow the old, ignorant, tired tyrants that trouble too many lands. Then those lands too will join the community of free and prosperous nations. http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-ferrara092501.shtml By Peter Ferrara, an associate professor of law at the George Mason University School of Law. None of those things make me any more nor any less American -follow blindly is your choice -I chose to see where I'm going I say the Pledge when I feel like it I place my hand when I feel like it I wont wear a flag pin if it doesnt match the ensemble This is exactly the selfish spoiled brat attitude of the COUNTER culture that is the ruin of our nation. Thanks for pointing that out!!!! Since when is the majority of a country the counter culture? Remember, this wasn't close...This was a clear majority. |
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This is exactly the selfish spoiled brat attitude of the COUNTER culture that is the ruin of our nation. Thanks for pointing that out!!!! Oh and Quik keep the comments on topic and not personal please. 
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There's a difference between pointing out the failed policies of a president and publicly stating you oppose a president elect so much you will work to make sure their policies fail.
I don't care for the term un-american but if I were to use it it would be for those in the second group. |
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Edited by
Drew07_2
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Thu 11/06/08 02:37 PM
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I don't have to support the policies or politics of a president if I don't agree with the person holding the office. That is the most basic of our freedoms--to think and believe as we so desire. Not once did I make the argument that disagreeing with or even raging against President Bush made a person unpatriotic. In fact one of the greatest freedoms this country allows is for its citizens to BE unpatriotic. That a person is free to rail against GWB, call him Hitler like, or burn an American flag does not make me happy but what makes the moment ironic is that they are allowed to use and exercise the very freedoms that they proclaim to despise. Try burning a flag or railing against the "Dear Leader" in North Korea.
Both parties have drifted so far away from our Constitution that it is almost laughable to hear it mentioned today save for people who claim that the Constitution provides them x freedom and y rights. I did not support President Elect Obama nor do I believe his policies are best for our nation. That stated, the significance of his nomination and election is not something that is lost on me. I will respect the office and the man (or woman) who is elected in the sense that I recognize that it is the best way to transfer power from one party to the next. I do hope however to see a day when we recognize that it is the President who should seek our approval (a government for the people and by the people) and not use being so worried about approving of him. That some here are now calling for support of President Elect Obama after having spent the past year or more simply trashing President Bush is a bit more than hypocritical. Those who are now calling for unity are some of the same people who showed disdain for Senator McCain and Gov. Palin, who attacked them both politically and personally. I don't want it "both ways" as some here have mentioned in that I think the BOTH of the two main parties are lost in a sea of rhetoric and feel-good emptiness that has little to do with what it will actually take to fix a great deal of what is broken. Just my .02 Drew |
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Isn't is also un-American to not say the Pledge of Allegiance and also NOT place your hand over your heart during it.. refusing to wear an American flag pin and saying you're ashamed to be an American? Ummm...he says the Pledge of Allegiance all of the time. He leads it before the Senate meetings. Look it up on Snopes. |
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The only ones that are Un american are the counter culture LIBS. Gee! I guess OBAMA falls into that group. LOL...I wouldn't be so smug...OBAMA & the DEMS have to actually produce now. It's gonna be fun to watch him squirm out of all those promises he made to his mind numb followers...Messiah??? LOL It must be a miserable existence to be so filled with hate. |
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Isn't is also un-American to not say the Pledge of Allegiance and also NOT place your hand over your heart during it.. refusing to wear an American flag pin and saying you're ashamed to be an American? Hmm good point who could have been doing that??  Look it up on Snopes.
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