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Topic: Un-American Traitors
Winx's photo
Sun 11/09/08 06:41 PM






Isn't is also un-American to not say the Pledge of Allegiance and also NOT place your hand over your heart during it.. refusing to wear an American flag pin and saying you're ashamed to be an American?


Seems you hear what you want but dissent is very American,this country was founded on it.I'm have never been so proud of our country.We rose above racism,fake attacks and thought for ourselves.The people have spoken so maybe you should show the same grace as John McCain a man I have new respect for.


I'm proud of our country this week too. Yes, we rose above racism and thought for ourselves.drinker


I think to some extent it's because we have moved past many forms of racism that we now have President-elect Obama. That stated, I don't know that it was all about moving past anything as much (and I hope this is true) that it had to do with the feelings people had about his ability to do the job and to lead us in the right direction. To that end, do you mean to imply that had McCain been elected instead that you would have felt the nation still gripped by a sort of racism or could content of message been the point regardless of race?

-Drew


I didn't vote for him because of his color. I voted for him and he happened to have color.

There are so many racist people, that I felt cautious about him being the new president.

If McCain had been elected, I would still feel the same that I do. But...I would have been severely disappointed that Obama didn't win.

The content of the message...hmmm. America did look past his race. We thought for ourselves too. We didn't buy into all that Muslim and where he was born talk. We saw through Palin. The eight years of Bush are over. Soooo many feelings.




You saw through Palin? This happened after many conversations with her, right? I mean, you didn't rely on the media to form your opinions about her, right? The gaffes attributed to her were no good and I don't think she was qualified to lead the nation but neither do I feel that way about our President-elect. I do agree that people looked past race when voting for President-elect Obama but my point was that a McCain win would not have meant an ingrained racism--only perhaps that people did not agree with his politics. I've been after this issue because I did not vote for President-elect Obama and someone on another site stupidly attributed that to some form of deep seated racism. I yawned and then let it go because there is an axiom that suggests that one cannot disprove a negative. I will and have always voted for the person (regardless of gender/race) with whom I most agree.

It's really that simple.

-Drew


Yeah, it was from my conversations with her.noway laugh

I watched her interview with Couric. That told me a lot.
I watched videos of her speeches. I feel that McCain could have picked a better person for the job than her.

I'm sorry if someone accused you of being a racist if you're not. I've not seen you say anything to indicate that you are a racist.

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Sun 11/09/08 06:43 PM






Isn't is also un-American to not say the Pledge of Allegiance and also NOT place your hand over your heart during it.. refusing to wear an American flag pin and saying you're ashamed to be an American?


Seems you hear what you want but dissent is very American,this country was founded on it.I'm have never been so proud of our country.We rose above racism,fake attacks and thought for ourselves.The people have spoken so maybe you should show the same grace as John McCain a man I have new respect for.


I'm proud of our country this week too. Yes, we rose above racism and thought for ourselves.drinker




Too bad it was wasted on someone with NO qualifications!!!! laugh

Now that's what I call the "RACE" card.


Obama has eloquence, intellect, discipline, and passion.

That has nothing to do with his race. It has everything to do with who he is as a person.

I truly feel sorry for you and your hatred.




Whoa---I did not vote for President-elect Obama because I did not feel that a Freshman Senator had the experience to be President. Does that mean I am filled with hatred--or worse?

I'm asking, not stating but this was a fear I had...namely that if a person did not vote for President-elect Obama, they would be viewed as narrow, hateful or worse, racist.

I just want to make clear that there were a number of reasons not to vote for him that had nothing to do with his race--that we disagree is fine but I hope you are not suggesting that everyone who voted the other way did so for nefarious reasons?

-Drew


I voted for Obama because I agree with him on most points and believe in his hope for our country. Not because he is black.

You did not vote for him because you do not agree with his record (or lack thereof), etc. Not because he is black.

Politics should be like this -- qualifications, issues, etc -- I do not agree with you about Obama, but I respect you because you made your decision based on reality. Based on facts. Based on politics. I salute you for that. Thank-you.

Winx's photo
Sun 11/09/08 06:45 PM






Isn't is also un-American to not say the Pledge of Allegiance and also NOT place your hand over your heart during it.. refusing to wear an American flag pin and saying you're ashamed to be an American?


Seems you hear what you want but dissent is very American,this country was founded on it.I'm have never been so proud of our country.We rose above racism,fake attacks and thought for ourselves.The people have spoken so maybe you should show the same grace as John McCain a man I have new respect for.


I'm proud of our country this week too. Yes, we rose above racism and thought for ourselves.drinker




Too bad it was wasted on someone with NO qualifications!!!! laugh

Now that's what I call the "RACE" card.


Obama has eloquence, intellect, discipline, and passion.

That has nothing to do with his race. It has everything to do with who he is as a person.

I truly feel sorry for you and your hatred.




Whoa---I did not vote for President-elect Obama because I did not feel that a Freshman Senator had the experience to be President. Does that mean I am filled with hatred--or worse?

I'm asking, not stating but this was a fear I had...namely that if a person did not vote for President-elect Obama, they would be viewed as narrow, hateful or worse, racist.

I just want to make clear that there were a number of reasons not to vote for him that had nothing to do with his race--that we disagree is fine but I hope you are not suggesting that everyone who voted the other way did so for nefarious reasons?

-Drew


Drew, that post was not meant for you.flowerforyou

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