well maybe not traitors

but as defined by the patriot act it does make them domestic terrorists

It was more a reference to all the bandying around of the traitor, terrorist and unAmerican from the past 8 years. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, pot calling the kettle black, all that jazz.

You know, the rampant hypocrisy that's been floating around.

Tromeo appears to be really good at generalizations.

"Some Republicans said X, so all Republicans believe X"

This is called a Misleading Vividness fallacy.

How is that any different than Republican's doing that about "liberals" or Democrats?

You just did it again.

No, I didn't. I don't think you actually understand the question.

Yes, I understand the question.

Not ALL Republicans do it to all democrats.

Is it good when anyone generalizes the behavior of a minority of a group of people as being the norm for all people of that group? No, it's not.

So maybe you should address what people actually say instead of generalizing bad behavior, of which they may or may not be guilty.

That's the entire point. A majority of vocal republicans spent the past eight years calling all those that didn't support Bush or his wars traitors and unAmerican.

All the threads on this very site from the election night were "patriotic Americans" saying that they don't support Obama and that those that supported them are terrorists, liberals, baby killers, whatever.

So, really, you have no validity. It's not so much a complete generalization as a "Wow, you guys are hypocrites."

To everyone bashing Obama saying they will not support him...Do you realize that makes you traitorous and un-American? This runs on the same logic that all of you were calling anyone who didn't support the Bush regime as traitors. It works both ways.

A majority of vocal republicans...

Can you name some? And how many Republicans are vocal? You are just proving my point. You are generalizing an offensive and stupid behavior to a whole group of people. How are you any better than the racists who say "All black men want to do is steal and screw white women"?

This is exactly the selfish spoiled brat attitude of the COUNTER culture that is the ruin of our nation.


Thanks for pointing that out!!!!

Tromeo appears to be really good at generalizations.

"Some Republicans said X, so all Republicans believe X"

This is called a Misleading Vividness fallacy.

I think it is within our rights to be skeptical of anyone in our government, just like it is our right to overthrow our own government...

But, people should give him a chance. I understand why many don't like him. He hasn't given many good ideas. But we will soon see how he performs, and i will continue to respect his position.

But like Bush i disagree with many of Obama's policies already...

The Economic Stabalization Act(Bailout) - Obama supported it and voted for it

The patriot act - Obama voted to reinstate it

No child left behind - Obama wants to tweak it a
bit, but supports the idea and wants to give it more funding. (In all fairness at least he tweaked it a bit.)

So far it sounds a lot like Bush to me. You'd think Bush supporters would like him more...

One thing i will say, i don't think most that support him, or dislike even know why...

I'm proud of our country this week too. Yes, we rose above racism and thought for ourselves.

I think to some extent it's because we have moved past many forms of racism that we now have President-elect Obama. That stated, I don't know that it was all about moving past anything as much (and I hope this is true) that it had to do with the feelings people had about his ability to do the job and to lead us in the right direction. To that end, do you mean to imply that had McCain been elected instead that you would have felt the nation still gripped by a sort of racism or could content of message been the point regardless of race?

-Drew