Topic: Un-American Traitors
Giocamo's photo
Fri 11/07/08 10:12 PM







laugh Its coming out that Sarah Palin didn't even know that Africa is a continent, and she walked into a room wearing nothing but a towel when they were trying to prepare her for the debate.laugh



what a visual...blushing
:smile:Yeah, but also VERY unpresidential.:smile:Thats not the way a world leader should conduct themselves.:smile:


as oppose to wettin' your worm in the white house...smokin ...cigar anyone ?


That's real classy.:wink:


thanks...I needed that !!...:wink:


Anytime.:wink: flowerforyou


ahhhhh....chooooo !!...thanks for the flower...lol

my comment was in response to the supposed " outrage "...that Sarah Palin answered her door in a robe...the point being...and getting a BJ in the Oval office isn't outragious ?...

Winx's photo
Fri 11/07/08 10:17 PM








laugh Its coming out that Sarah Palin didn't even know that Africa is a continent, and she walked into a room wearing nothing but a towel when they were trying to prepare her for the debate.laugh



what a visual...blushing
:smile:Yeah, but also VERY unpresidential.:smile:Thats not the way a world leader should conduct themselves.:smile:


as oppose to wettin' your worm in the white house...smokin ...cigar anyone ?


That's real classy.:wink:


thanks...I needed that !!...:wink:


Anytime.:wink: flowerforyou


ahhhhh....chooooo !!...thanks for the flower...lol

my comment was in response to the supposed " outrage "...that Sarah Palin answered her door in a robe...the point being...and getting a BJ in the Oval office isn't outragious ?...



Women don't usually answer doors like that, you know. Especially when running for a Presidential position.

There are ladies on here, btw.


Giocamo's photo
Fri 11/07/08 10:20 PM









laugh Its coming out that Sarah Palin didn't even know that Africa is a continent, and she walked into a room wearing nothing but a towel when they were trying to prepare her for the debate.laugh



what a visual...blushing
:smile:Yeah, but also VERY unpresidential.:smile:Thats not the way a world leader should conduct themselves.:smile:


as oppose to wettin' your worm in the white house...smokin ...cigar anyone ?


That's real classy.:wink:


thanks...I needed that !!...:wink:


Anytime.:wink: flowerforyou


ahhhhh....chooooo !!...thanks for the flower...lol

my comment was in response to the supposed " outrage "...that Sarah Palin answered her door in a robe...the point being...and getting a BJ in the Oval office isn't outragious ?...



Women don't usually answer doors like that, you know. Especially when running for a Presidential position.

There are ladies on here, btw.




keep going...women shouldn't answer doors like that, and...Presidents shouldn't be commiting adultery...say it...happy

Winx's photo
Fri 11/07/08 10:37 PM










laugh Its coming out that Sarah Palin didn't even know that Africa is a continent, and she walked into a room wearing nothing but a towel when they were trying to prepare her for the debate.laugh



what a visual...blushing
:smile:Yeah, but also VERY unpresidential.:smile:Thats not the way a world leader should conduct themselves.:smile:


as oppose to wettin' your worm in the white house...smokin ...cigar anyone ?


That's real classy.:wink:


thanks...I needed that !!...:wink:


Anytime.:wink: flowerforyou


ahhhhh....chooooo !!...thanks for the flower...lol

my comment was in response to the supposed " outrage "...that Sarah Palin answered her door in a robe...the point being...and getting a BJ in the Oval office isn't outragious ?...



Women don't usually answer doors like that, you know. Especially when running for a Presidential position.

There are ladies on here, btw.




keep going...women shouldn't answer doors like that, and...Presidents shouldn't be commiting adultery...say it...happy


There's no doubt about it. Men and women shouldn't be committing adultery not just Presidents.

And men aren't acting nice to the ladies when talking about worms.


Giocamo's photo
Fri 11/07/08 10:39 PM











laugh Its coming out that Sarah Palin didn't even know that Africa is a continent, and she walked into a room wearing nothing but a towel when they were trying to prepare her for the debate.laugh



what a visual...blushing
:smile:Yeah, but also VERY unpresidential.:smile:Thats not the way a world leader should conduct themselves.:smile:


as oppose to wettin' your worm in the white house...smokin ...cigar anyone ?


That's real classy.:wink:


thanks...I needed that !!...:wink:


Anytime.:wink: flowerforyou


ahhhhh....chooooo !!...thanks for the flower...lol

my comment was in response to the supposed " outrage "...that Sarah Palin answered her door in a robe...the point being...and getting a BJ in the Oval office isn't outragious ?...



Women don't usually answer doors like that, you know. Especially when running for a Presidential position.

There are ladies on here, btw.




keep going...women shouldn't answer doors like that, and...Presidents shouldn't be commiting adultery...say it...happy


There's no doubt about it. Men and women shouldn't be committing adultery not just Presidents.

And men aren't acting nice to the ladies when talking about worms.




lol...you're funny...:smile:

Winx's photo
Fri 11/07/08 10:42 PM












laugh Its coming out that Sarah Palin didn't even know that Africa is a continent, and she walked into a room wearing nothing but a towel when they were trying to prepare her for the debate.laugh



what a visual...blushing
:smile:Yeah, but also VERY unpresidential.:smile:Thats not the way a world leader should conduct themselves.:smile:


as oppose to wettin' your worm in the white house...smokin ...cigar anyone ?


That's real classy.:wink:


thanks...I needed that !!...:wink:


Anytime.:wink: flowerforyou


ahhhhh....chooooo !!...thanks for the flower...lol

my comment was in response to the supposed " outrage "...that Sarah Palin answered her door in a robe...the point being...and getting a BJ in the Oval office isn't outragious ?...



Women don't usually answer doors like that, you know. Especially when running for a Presidential position.

There are ladies on here, btw.




keep going...women shouldn't answer doors like that, and...Presidents shouldn't be commiting adultery...say it...happy


There's no doubt about it. Men and women shouldn't be committing adultery not just Presidents.

And men aren't acting nice to the ladies when talking about worms.




lol...you're funny...:smile:


:tongue:

Giocamo's photo
Sat 11/08/08 07:18 AM











laugh Its coming out that Sarah Palin didn't even know that Africa is a continent, and she walked into a room wearing nothing but a towel when they were trying to prepare her for the debate.laugh



what a visual...blushing
:smile:Yeah, but also VERY unpresidential.:smile:Thats not the way a world leader should conduct themselves.:smile:


as oppose to wettin' your worm in the white house...smokin ...cigar anyone ?


That's real classy.:wink:


thanks...I needed that !!...:wink:


Anytime.:wink: flowerforyou


ahhhhh....chooooo !!...thanks for the flower...lol

my comment was in response to the supposed " outrage "...that Sarah Palin answered her door in a robe...the point being...and getting a BJ in the Oval office isn't outragious ?...



Women don't usually answer doors like that, you know. Especially when running for a Presidential position.

There are ladies on here, btw.




keep going...women shouldn't answer doors like that, and...Presidents shouldn't be commiting adultery...say it...happy


There's no doubt about it. Men and women shouldn't be committing adultery not just Presidents.

And men aren't acting nice to the ladies when talking about worms.




but I love to fish...laugh

Lindyy's photo
Sat 11/08/08 10:35 AM

To everyone bashing Obama saying they will not support him...Do you realize that makes you traitorous and un-American? This runs on the same logic that all of you were calling anyone who didn't support the Bush regime as traitors. It works both ways.


If one side dishes it out, the other has to take it in like manner.....

In other words "what is good for the goose is good for the gander."

LINDYY
:heart: :heart:

Drew07_2's photo
Sat 11/08/08 10:43 AM
Edited by Drew07_2 on Sat 11/08/08 10:53 AM





Isn't is also un-American to not say the Pledge of Allegiance and also NOT place your hand over your heart during it.. refusing to wear an American flag pin and saying you're ashamed to be an American?


Seems you hear what you want but dissent is very American,this country was founded on it.I'm have never been so proud of our country.We rose above racism,fake attacks and thought for ourselves.The people have spoken so maybe you should show the same grace as John McCain a man I have new respect for.


I'm proud of our country this week too. Yes, we rose above racism and thought for ourselves.drinker


I think to some extent it's because we have moved past many forms of racism that we now have President-elect Obama. That stated, I don't know that it was all about moving past anything as much (and I hope this is true) that it had to do with the feelings people had about his ability to do the job and to lead us in the right direction. To that end, do you mean to imply that had McCain been elected instead that you would have felt the nation still gripped by a sort of racism or could content of message been the point regardless of race?

-Drew


I didn't vote for him because of his color. I voted for him and he happened to have color.

There are so many racist people, that I felt cautious about him being the new president.

If McCain had been elected, I would still feel the same that I do. But...I would have been severely disappointed that Obama didn't win.

The content of the message...hmmm. America did look past his race. We thought for ourselves too. We didn't buy into all that Muslim and where he was born talk. We saw through Palin. The eight years of Bush are over. Soooo many feelings.




You saw through Palin? This happened after many conversations with her, right? I mean, you didn't rely on the media to form your opinions about her, right? The gaffes attributed to her were no good and I don't think she was qualified to lead the nation but neither do I feel that way about our President-elect. I do agree that people looked past race when voting for President-elect Obama but my point was that a McCain win would not have meant an ingrained racism--only perhaps that people did not agree with his politics. I've been after this issue because I did not vote for President-elect Obama and someone on another site stupidly attributed that to some form of deep seated racism. I yawned and then let it go because there is an axiom that suggests that one cannot disprove a negative. I will and have always voted for the person (regardless of gender/race) with whom I most agree.

It's really that simple.

-Drew

Giocamo's photo
Sat 11/08/08 10:44 AM


To everyone bashing Obama saying they will not support him...Do you realize that makes you traitorous and un-American? This runs on the same logic that all of you were calling anyone who didn't support the Bush regime as traitors. It works both ways.


If one side dishes it out, the other has to take it in like manner.....

In other words "what is good for the goose is good for the gander."

LINDYY
:heart: :heart:


I like your edginess...if there's such a word...lol

BrandonJItaliano's photo
Sat 11/08/08 10:48 AM


To everyone bashing Obama saying they will not support him...Do you realize that makes you traitorous and un-American? This runs on the same logic that all of you were calling anyone who didn't support the Bush regime as traitors. It works both ways.


If one side dishes it out, the other has to take it in like manner.....

In other words "what is good for the goose is good for the gander."

LINDYY
:heart: :heart:



I totally disagree with that statment, OUR GOVERNMENT IS NOT EQUAL TO THIS COUNTRY, YOU STATMENT IS LIKE SAYING THE DRIVER IS PART OF THE CAR. If this Government wants to step on the rights of the people then it needs resistance. If they want to try to take our cival liberties away from us then it is them who are traitorious and terenious and they need to be dealt with accordingly

Lindyy's photo
Sat 11/08/08 10:51 AM
Edited by Lindyy on Sat 11/08/08 10:52 AM



To everyone bashing Obama saying they will not support him...Do you realize that makes you traitorous and un-American? This runs on the same logic that all of you were calling anyone who didn't support the Bush regime as traitors. It works both ways.


If one side dishes it out, the other has to take it in like manner.....

In other words "what is good for the goose is good for the gander."

LINDYY
:heart: :heart:


I like your edginess...if there's such a word...lol


You do not like "old fashioned" sayings?tongue2

LINDYY
:heart: :heart:

Giocamo's photo
Sat 11/08/08 10:55 AM




To everyone bashing Obama saying they will not support him...Do you realize that makes you traitorous and un-American? This runs on the same logic that all of you were calling anyone who didn't support the Bush regime as traitors. It works both ways.


If one side dishes it out, the other has to take it in like manner.....

In other words "what is good for the goose is good for the gander."

LINDYY
:heart: :heart:


I like your edginess...if there's such a word...lol


You do not like "old fashioned" sayings?tongue2

LINDYY
:heart: :heart:


absolutely I do...it's your delivery that I'm referring to...:smile:

t22learner's photo
Sun 11/09/08 02:04 PM


To everyone bashing Obama saying they will not support him...Do you realize that makes you traitorous and un-American? This runs on the same logic that all of you were calling anyone who didn't support the Bush regime as traitors. It works both ways.


If one side dishes it out, the other has to take it in like manner.....

In other words "what is good for the goose is good for the gander."

LINDYY
:heart: :heart:

This sentiment of undermining Obama before he's even in office will backfire with an even more resounding defeat in 2010. A growing number of Americans (in growing demographics) want a new direction in this country. I hope many Republicans choose a bi-partisan road, and that doesn't mean agreeing to everything Democrats want. It means coming to the table and working toward solutions. Those who choose not to will be crushed in future elections.

MirrorMirror's photo
Sun 11/09/08 03:38 PM
:smile: The main reason the Republicans got crushed in this election was because they were only talking about stupid stuff like secret muslims and radical college professors that nobody cared about.:smile: Obama and the Dems were talking about the real issues that people want to be dealt with.:smile:

Lynann's photo
Sun 11/09/08 04:01 PM
Hey, I am in favor of the man or woman holding the keys to nukes being as relaxed as possible.

I think people still being upset over Clinton getting a little something are basically prudes. After all we practically celebrate Kennedy and Marilyn. Ike had a long time affair while in office. The list goes on.

Maybe if more people got a little something they wouldn't be so aggressive and mean. Just a thought.

t22learner's photo
Sun 11/09/08 04:18 PM

Maybe if more people got a little something they wouldn't be so aggressive and mean. Just a thought.

Oh yeah. For some, I think even a quickie would do wonders!

snarkytwain's photo
Sun 11/09/08 06:09 PM

I did not vote for Obama but it does not mean I will not support him in office. It is niether traitorous or un-Amrerican to oppose any elected official but part of OUR right as Americans to question our leaders. Under free speech we can say what we like without fear of reprisals. It is usually those that do not vote that complain the most I have found and all this blue state/ red state BS has now got to stop. We have a new president and must work together now to put things back on the right track that the soon to be former administation has totally wrecked.


It is very American to speak out against what one doesn't agree with, including the president. That said, I totally agree that those who said being against Bush was tratiorous and un-American better not be *****ing and complainig about Obama. Or, if they are (as is their right as I said), they better aknoledge that those of us who weren't too happy with Bush were doing the EXACT same thing they are doing now.

I can't stand hypocrates.

I had to put up with 8 years of a dumbass president I didn't like, but I sucked it up. Not everyone is gonna be happy. He's the president. Period. Now it's their turn to suck it up for a while.

HawaiiMusikMan's photo
Sun 11/09/08 06:25 PM
There may come a time in the near future where the US "War on Terror" starts being directed on it's citizens and anything "un-patriotic" becomes something that could get you locked up or worse. Look up the "Patriot" act and Guantanamo Bay. Let's not be pointing fingers at each other.

I'd hate to see people betraying each other like back in the day of Mccarthism, turning people in for being a sleeper-cell "terrorist". I pray it doesn't ever get that bad here in the US.

Drew07_2's photo
Sun 11/09/08 06:38 PM





Isn't is also un-American to not say the Pledge of Allegiance and also NOT place your hand over your heart during it.. refusing to wear an American flag pin and saying you're ashamed to be an American?


Seems you hear what you want but dissent is very American,this country was founded on it.I'm have never been so proud of our country.We rose above racism,fake attacks and thought for ourselves.The people have spoken so maybe you should show the same grace as John McCain a man I have new respect for.


I'm proud of our country this week too. Yes, we rose above racism and thought for ourselves.drinker




Too bad it was wasted on someone with NO qualifications!!!! laugh

Now that's what I call the "RACE" card.


Obama has eloquence, intellect, discipline, and passion.

That has nothing to do with his race. It has everything to do with who he is as a person.

I truly feel sorry for you and your hatred.




Whoa---I did not vote for President-elect Obama because I did not feel that a Freshman Senator had the experience to be President. Does that mean I am filled with hatred--or worse?

I'm asking, not stating but this was a fear I had...namely that if a person did not vote for President-elect Obama, they would be viewed as narrow, hateful or worse, racist.

I just want to make clear that there were a number of reasons not to vote for him that had nothing to do with his race--that we disagree is fine but I hope you are not suggesting that everyone who voted the other way did so for nefarious reasons?

-Drew