Topic: Please list Gods ABSOLUTE laws...
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Wed 11/05/08 08:40 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 11/05/08 08:41 AM



Gravity is limited to objects...the things about the laws of gravity is that it can be alter manipulated and/or cancelled out ...that why no laws of physics are absolute

also why did the laws of God suddenly change to the laws of physics when those laws doesn't acknowledge God

I figure by absolute laws that it was meant the laws that God set forth in scripture such as the bible not in the science books because in the science books none of Gods laws exist ..in fact God doesn't even exist in them



As Adventure begins said, the laws set forth in scripture are laws of a book written by man and attributed to a god.

I doubt that most people can even define God. I have to assume that "God" is that which exists. That which exists has only one law, and that is to exist.


and "JenieBean"..haven't you also notice that "AdventureBegins" has a habit of saying "I AM" ...wouldn't you figure that his use of that term was derived from biblical scripture ...


The use of the term "I am" has been around before Biblical Scripture. It emanates from Prime Source throughout all creation.

It is a declaration of the absolute law of existence.

"I am" means "I exist."




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Wed 11/05/08 09:19 AM




Gravity is limited to objects...the things about the laws of gravity is that it can be alter manipulated and/or cancelled out ...that why no laws of physics are absolute

also why did the laws of God suddenly change to the laws of physics when those laws doesn't acknowledge God

I figure by absolute laws that it was meant the laws that God set forth in scripture such as the bible not in the science books because in the science books none of Gods laws exist ..in fact God doesn't even exist in them



As Adventure begins said, the laws set forth in scripture are laws of a book written by man and attributed to a god.

I doubt that most people can even define God. I have to assume that "God" is that which exists. That which exists has only one law, and that is to exist.


and "JenieBean"..haven't you also notice that "AdventureBegins" has a habit of saying "I AM" ...wouldn't you figure that his use of that term was derived from biblical scripture ...


The use of the term "I am" has been around before Biblical Scripture. It emanates from Prime Source throughout all creation.

It is a declaration of the absolute law of existence.

"I am" means "I exist."


right "JennieBean" and I'm pretty sure that's why the biblical God decided to steal that term ..but it's no mistaking that "I Am" is now a way to preach and promote judeo-Christianity

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Wed 11/05/08 09:45 AM
right "JennieBean" and I'm pretty sure that's why the biblical God decided to steal that term ..but it's no mistaking that "I Am" is now a way to preach and promote judeo-Christianity


Well they believe they own God so I guess they have taken possession of the phrase "I am" and "I am that I am" just because someone wrote it in the Bible.

They also own the word "sin" and they frown on anyone else using that word for their own purposes.

I tell people that it is a "sin" to give candy to children and they tell me I'm crazy and ask me to prove that giving candy to children is a sin.

I say because it is written in my commandments for my church.

"Thou shalt not give candy to children."

Then they ask me who do I think I am writing commandments and saying what is a sin. They own the word sin and only they can declare what is a sin and what is not a sin.

So they can have the word if they want it so bad. It is a meaningless word that refers to their own written laws within their own written religious doctrine.

The word "sin" is only defined and used inside of a religious doctrine and refers to the disobedience of certain laws set forth by the creators of said doctrine. You cannot sin if you are not a believer or follower of said doctrine.

JB

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Wed 11/05/08 09:59 AM

right "JennieBean" and I'm pretty sure that's why the biblical God decided to steal that term ..but it's no mistaking that "I Am" is now a way to preach and promote judeo-Christianity


Well they believe they own God so I guess they have taken possession of the phrase "I am" and "I am that I am" just because someone wrote it in the Bible.

They also own the word "sin" and they frown on anyone else using that word for their own purposes.

I tell people that it is a "sin" to give candy to children and they tell me I'm crazy and ask me to prove that giving candy to children is a sin.

I say because it is written in my commandments for my church.

"Thou shalt not give candy to children."

Then they ask me who do I think I am writing commandments and saying what is a sin. They own the word sin and only they can declare what is a sin and what is not a sin.

So they can have the word if they want it so bad. It is a meaningless word that refers to their own written laws within their own written religious doctrine.

The word "sin" is only defined and used inside of a religious doctrine and refers to the disobedience of certain laws set forth by the creators of said doctrine. You cannot sin if you are not a believer or follower of said doctrine.

JB


well then "JennieBean" wouldn't you then agree that the term "sin" promotes christian mentality and christian values

and wouldn't it be the same with the term "I Am" when used in reference to a God or to make reference of one being a God is the same as promoting christian values

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Wed 11/05/08 11:34 AM
I'll still say that the law of gravity does exist everywhere. It might not be massive in space, but it is there. Every being in existance (sorry JB) has it's own gravity, no matter how minute. Even the etheral vapors of spirits have their own mass, and therefor have a gravitational pull, once again no matter how minute it is.


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Wed 11/05/08 12:15 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Wed 11/05/08 12:27 PM


If you can actually prove such a thing as an absolute law of god...smokin


"AdventureBegins" all laws the God has set forth no matter which God are absolute...the believers can pick and choose which ones they will follow but in doing so will face consequences absolutely

So we should not wear polyester?




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Wed 11/05/08 12:55 PM


right "JennieBean" and I'm pretty sure that's why the biblical God decided to steal that term ..but it's no mistaking that "I Am" is now a way to preach and promote judeo-Christianity


Well they believe they own God so I guess they have taken possession of the phrase "I am" and "I am that I am" just because someone wrote it in the Bible.

They also own the word "sin" and they frown on anyone else using that word for their own purposes.

I tell people that it is a "sin" to give candy to children and they tell me I'm crazy and ask me to prove that giving candy to children is a sin.

I say because it is written in my commandments for my church.

"Thou shalt not give candy to children."

Then they ask me who do I think I am writing commandments and saying what is a sin. They own the word sin and only they can declare what is a sin and what is not a sin.

So they can have the word if they want it so bad. It is a meaningless word that refers to their own written laws within their own written religious doctrine.

The word "sin" is only defined and used inside of a religious doctrine and refers to the disobedience of certain laws set forth by the creators of said doctrine. You cannot sin if you are not a believer or follower of said doctrine.

JB


well then "JennieBean" wouldn't you then agree that the term "sin" promotes christian mentality and christian values


The term 'sin' is owned by Religious doctrine. (Mostly Christian.) But there may be other religions who use the term "sin" that are not Christian. So it is a religious term but not necessarily an exclusive to Christians.




and wouldn't it be the same with the term "I Am" when used in reference to a God or to make reference of one being a God is the same as promoting Christian values


In the case of "I am" they have stolen the term and claim that it represents their God, just as they claim that their God is the only true God.

They only pretend they own that just like they like to pretend they own the only true version of god.

They believe what they believe.

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Wed 11/05/08 01:18 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 11/05/08 01:19 PM

I'll still say that the law of gravity does exist everywhere. It might not be massive in space, but it is there. Every being in existance (sorry JB) has it's own gravity, no matter how minute. Even the etheral vapors of spirits have their own mass, and therefor have a gravitational pull, once again no matter how minute it is.



I don't think the law of gravity is what people think it is, but if you want to call it an "absolute law of God" that is your privilege.

The reason I don't think it is an absolute law of God is because, like everything else in this holographic reality it is simply part of the illusion.

I can observe something that appears to be "gravity" in my dreams but I doubt that it is an absolute law of god in my dreams, because they are just dreams.

My theory is that this that we call "reality" is also a dream-like reflection of the mind (universal mind) that is holographic and three dimensional in nature.

But whether the physical universe is the "ultimate reality' as far as I am concerned, it probably is not.






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Wed 11/05/08 03:40 PM
Any diety, and I don't think it matters which one we refer to here, would probably have an absolute law that he/she/it/them would be totally worshiped. Just a guess, but let's run it up the flagpole and see who salutes.

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Wed 11/05/08 03:44 PM



If you can actually prove such a thing as an absolute law of god...smokin


"AdventureBegins" all laws the God has set forth no matter which God are absolute...the believers can pick and choose which ones they will follow but in doing so will face consequences absolutely

So we should not wear polyester?


only when dressing like Elvis

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Wed 11/05/08 03:49 PM


I'll still say that the law of gravity does exist everywhere. It might not be massive in space, but it is there. Every being in existance (sorry JB) has it's own gravity, no matter how minute. Even the etheral vapors of spirits have their own mass, and therefor have a gravitational pull, once again no matter how minute it is.



I don't think the law of gravity is what people think it is, but if you want to call it an "absolute law of God" that is your privilege.

The reason I don't think it is an absolute law of God is because, like everything else in this holographic reality it is simply part of the illusion.

I can observe something that appears to be "gravity" in my dreams but I doubt that it is an absolute law of god in my dreams, because they are just dreams.

My theory is that this that we call "reality" is also a dream-like reflection of the mind (universal mind) that is holographic and three dimensional in nature.

But whether the physical universe is the "ultimate reality' as far as I am concerned, it probably is not.








then i will agree to dis-agree my lady and defend your right to be wrong to the death - flowerforyou

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Thu 11/06/08 08:53 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 11/06/08 09:37 AM
Tribo,

So you think the physical universe is the ultimate reality?

If so, then why ever wonder or search for more than that?

For me, I think this physical universe is one of many realities manifested by the universal mind. I seek to discover how it works and how it is manifested and by whom. I know I have something to do with it and so do others.

When you say you disagree, I seek and I would like to hear your solutions and your reasons why. I want to hear your bottom line. I want new information and the reasons for your conclusions.

Or am I being too nosy and personal?

Saying that gravity is an absolute law of God does not say much. It would have to include all other laws of physics of this world. It may mean that other worlds have the same laws or different laws that are unknown to us. Are all of these absolute laws of God?

Don't just agree to disagree, give me more. Give me what you've got. I am not seeking agreement or disagreement. I seek new information and new ideas and new theories.

JB




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Thu 11/06/08 10:26 AM

Tribo,

So you think the physical universe is the ultimate reality?

If so, then why ever wonder or search for more than that?

For me, I think this physical universe is one of many realities manifested by the universal mind. I seek to discover how it works and how it is manifested and by whom. I know I have something to do with it and so do others.

When you say you disagree, I seek and I would like to hear your solutions and your reasons why. I want to hear your bottom line. I want new information and the reasons for your conclusions.

Or am I being too nosy and personal?

Saying that gravity is an absolute law of God does not say much. It would have to include all other laws of physics of this world. It may mean that other worlds have the same laws or different laws that are unknown to us. Are all of these absolute laws of God?

Don't just agree to disagree, give me more. Give me what you've got. I am not seeking agreement or disagreement. I seek new information and new ideas and new theories.

JB






JB:

So you think the physical universe is the ultimate reality?

If so, then why ever wonder or search for more than that?


TRIBO:

I think for the mass of mankind this "IS" and or was, the ultimate reality, does that mean that i also think this? I can't sat my lady, i still search this also. BUT - for now this is the reality i know exist for me.


JB:

For me, I think this physical universe is one of many realities manifested by the universal mind. I seek to discover how it works and how it is manifested and by whom. I know I have something to do with it and so do others.


TRIBO:

I'm not searching for the ultimate answers because i don't think we can know them as long as we wear this flesh, so my search is for what i can know in this existence "now" - when i move to the next plane, then i may have more info to work with to see what everything really is or was.


JB:

When you say you disagree, I seek and I would like to hear your solutions and your reasons why. I want to hear your bottom line. I want new information and the reasons for your conclusions.

Or am I being too nosy and personal?



TRIBO:

laugh ahh the old succubus mentality [joke] - the "i want it NOW!!" age.

Solutions? - i only have what i have in my book and that you know i will not talk of on here - not that your being nosey or personal, - just impatient. flowerforyou


JB:

" Saying that gravity is an absolute law of God does not say much. It would have to include all other laws of physics of this world. It may mean that other worlds have the same laws or different laws that are unknown to us. Are all of these absolute laws of God? "

TRIBO:

I can't say all the natural laws that we find here are as gravity, the weather cycle here is certainly not like that of others we know of in this solar system. Why does Saturn have a six sided polygon extending deep into the core of the pole, and a 5000 mile wide continuous hurricane appearing storm at its other? what purpose do they have? certainly we can see that Jupiter and Saturn are two very different planets within our close realm of expieriences.

Gravity on the other hand makes up the small components of our existence, if it is is the atomic structure and also causes orbits of smaller matter around it then wherever there are atoms then gravity would exist, even if those atoms were in a different parallel universe. though i do think that there are parallel universes i can not think them to be made up of other than the same structures we have in this one, even if aliens and monsters are coming through warps in the fields, they seem to be of like substance as we as to atomic arrangement, if so then i have to conclude atoms are in all universes or at least base my premise on such till shown differently. Now in saying that i don't have agood grasp on "anti-matter" to be able to discuss whether or not a universe[s] could be of that nature, it well may be possible, or that anti matter has gravity as a source for its existence? you would have to or Abra or someone else fill me in on that. flowerforyou

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Thu 11/06/08 10:29 AM
Love, love, love......

flowerforyou

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Thu 11/06/08 01:24 PM
ahh the old succubus mentality [joke] - the "i want it NOW!!" age.

Solutions? - i only have what i have in my book and that you know i will not talk of on here - not that your being nosey or personal, - just impatient.



Yeh yeh Yeh, everybody has a book they want to write. Poooh!

I am sorry to say that I have very little faith in people who claim to be "going to write a book." Sorry. I know what procrastination does to ideas like that.

How many pages do you write per day? How far have you gotten? Are you going to self publish or look for a publisher? If you self publish how are you planning to market it? How many chapters have you finished so far? Do you have your complete outline finished?

If your book is such a big secret that you can't talk about it to anyone perhaps I should just stop sharing everything I know and believe and write my own book. I have always shared my theories and conclusions with anyone who asks. I'm not claiming to be saving it for some secret future book.

Poohy! tongue2






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Thu 11/06/08 03:03 PM
Edited by funches on Thu 11/06/08 03:04 PM

How many pages do you write per day?

I'm figuring on one page a year


How far have you gotten?

I almost came up with a title


Are you going to self publish or look for a publisher?

I'm going to self publish by using my copying machine


If you self publish how are you planning to market it?

I'm going to the mall and pass out flyers


How many chapters have you finished so far?

I wasn't planning on writting more than one chapter


Do you have your complete outline finished?

don't be silly..I'm not going to write outside the edges of the paper


If your book is such a big secret that you can't talk about it to anyone perhaps I should just stop sharing everything I know and believe and write my own book.

good I need someone to plagiarise from


I have always shared my theories and conclusions with anyone who asks. I'm not claiming to be saving it for some secret future book.

Poohy! tongue2

well I had to give you some excuse since i didn't have an answer

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Thu 11/06/08 04:57 PM

ahh the old succubus mentality [joke] - the "i want it NOW!!" age.

Solutions? - i only have what i have in my book and that you know i will not talk of on here - not that your being nosey or personal, - just impatient.



Yeh yeh Yeh, everybody has a book they want to write. Poooh!

I am sorry to say that I have very little faith in people who claim to be "going to write a book." Sorry. I know what procrastination does to ideas like that.

How many pages do you write per day? How far have you gotten? Are you going to self publish or look for a publisher? If you self publish how are you planning to market it? How many chapters have you finished so far? Do you have your complete outline finished?

If your book is such a big secret that you can't talk about it to anyone perhaps I should just stop sharing everything I know and believe and write my own book. I have always shared my theories and conclusions with anyone who asks. I'm not claiming to be saving it for some secret future book.

Poohy! tongue2







Title: trueness of being, rough draft finished in 1999, ongoing since then.

Future Publisher: Iuniverse.com,

sales outlet and marketing - major bookstores [barnes and noble, amazon.com, etc. [a book on demand publishing conpany]- possibly will do small run paperback printing within 2 years if i can - if so i will definitely send you a sample. your input would be interesting and valuable in some areas.


reason for not publishing now - lack of funds, total monetary commitment: 12,000. publishing date when money will be available, 2011, final draft, proofread and ready to print.

till then ongoing additions and deletions as necessary [some which have to do with things discussed hereflowerforyou ]



sorry to disappoint you my lady, you will just have to be patient or pay no attention to it at all. your choice.

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Thu 11/06/08 05:55 PM
total monetary commitment: 12,000???

Not really necessary.

Publish it as an Ebook and start selling it on google. There is no cost to produce Ebooks. All you need is a computer program called acrobat professional to create the book.

If the book can be completed soon there is no reason not to publish it immediately via and Ebook by portable document formating. (You don't to spend a bunch of money on an untried product.)

You could also get a lazer printer and book binding machine and print and bind the copies yourself for people who want hard copies or get in touch with a print on demand book publisher.

Then when the book starts making money you can invest it back into a large printing if you want.

But you could spend all that money for publishing up front and if the book bombs or the marketing bombs you are out a lot of money.

There are ways to get it on the best seller's list via ebook marketing campaigns geared to sell so many copies within a certain time. Once you are on the best sellers list, your book will gain credibility.

These are just some ideas.




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Thu 11/06/08 06:55 PM

total monetary commitment: 12,000???

Not really necessary.

Publish it as an Ebook and start selling it on google. There is no cost to produce Ebooks. All you need is a computer program called acrobat professional to create the book.

If the book can be completed soon there is no reason not to publish it immediately via and Ebook by portable document formating. (You don't to spend a bunch of money on an untried product.)

You could also get a lazer printer and book binding machine and print and bind the copies yourself for people who want hard copies or get in touch with a print on demand book publisher.

Then when the book starts making money you can invest it back into a large printing if you want.

But you could spend all that money for publishing up front and if the book bombs or the marketing bombs you are out a lot of money.

There are ways to get it on the best seller's list via ebook marketing campaigns geared to sell so many copies within a certain time. Once you are on the best sellers list, your book will gain credibility.

These are just some ideas.




thnx bb, i'll look into itflowerforyou

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Thu 11/06/08 07:21 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Thu 11/06/08 07:28 PM
Anti matter is matter that has a opposite charge and when it makes contact with matter of the same kind it will annihilate to create the equivalent NRG.

It exists now, we can create it in particle smashers, we create positrons (positively charge electron) to use in PET scans (positron emission tomography), we know that it was created at the big bang, we know that there was less anti matter then matter . . OR that inflation spread out the anti matter and matter before it could come in contact and annihilate else we would not be here . . .

I have read much research into inflation and think it is possible that throughout our universe anti matter sits someone far away stretched out by space and time into pockets far away from matter . . .

ahh the beauty.