Well, I CAN tell a lie, I just don't.

And let this be a lesson to you.... trust no one.

"JennieBean" first you say that you are a spirit and didn't identify with the body then next you said you find bodily functions disgusting but you need a body to exist in this reality ...so oh great "High" Priestess of "B.T.A.H" isn't that a contradiction also known as a lie?

The "I am" that I am is not a body. That is not the true reality of who or what I am.

When I go to sleep and dream, I occupy a "body" in that dream too. But that body is not real, it is just a projection of my mind.

It is the same with this body. This body is a holographic projection.

If you don't understand that yet, they you are believing in the illusion, hence you are delusional.

"JennieBean" since everyday you insist on eating drinking and taking a dump then you yourself are believing in the illusion ..

whether you believe you are not of the body or that you exist in some holographic projection either way you choose to be in a body or are forced to be in a body which is a total contradiction of you saying that you don't identify with the body ...in fact you know nothing else but the body

and please don't bring up that astral projection or remote viewing stuff because even then you are still in a body

Perhaps the 'body functions' are not actually happening... Just a part of the virtual reality...

Still does not eliminate the possibility that what we see here is but an extrusion on what is real in a different reality... We may just see that projection which is our way of coping with the interaction of the three part world. (physical/mental/spiritual)

Yes I believe in the illusion and I participate in the illusion, as I agreed to do. I agreed to be in the body for a certain duration and abide by the rules of the reality agreement. I keep my agreements. I play the game and I pretend the body is me. Its a rather remarkable virtual reality don't you think?

I don't have a handle on how it all works or how to beat the game yet. You cannot beat the game until you first acknowledge that it IS a game and you cannot manipulate your personal "reality" until you realize it is illusion.

But everyday it is there to remind you and convince you that you are real and this holographic illusion of reality is real. And every day there are people you meet like funches whose job it is to call you delusional and attempt to convince you that this illusion is real.

But to beat the game you have to be lucid and realize that it IS a game. I never said it was easy.

JB

"AdventureBegins"...then the person has no free will ..



if there is no proof then a different reality is no different than a different fantasy

sure you still have free will... but as long as you believe by the narrow your will is destined to be restricted to the narrow.

where did you get that freewill would be effected by a non important thing like what is real or what is not.

As long as I AM, I AM. My will is such that I AM.

"JennieBean" the fact that you are willing to accept the game and all the illusions is called ....being content

you are simply addicted to this suppose game ..clearly you don't want to leave this illusion and you believe this illusion to be fact while providing no proof that it is...so if I say that it's delusional why blame me when I tell you something that you should already know ...

"AdventureBegins" ..your will is controlled by your reality and if one cannot even control their own reality explain how they have "Free Will"

The only law there is in any religious beliefs is the one men wrote. A God (??) does not need law he/she is everything and all there is, the day we understand that is the day we will stop religious wars.

If I had been "content" I would not have entered the game in the first place.

"The Game" is like Fantasy Island. Anything you want to experience is here on earth. You can be a head hunter in Africa or an Eskimo in Alaska or a naked native in South America, or a stock broker in New York.

Souls come here to play the game of life and death.

I am not obligated to provide proof for what I believe to be true because I have admitted that it is my belief. (I don't really care what you want to believe.)

I only tell this to people who want to learn how to win the game. You can only win the game when you realize that this is a holographic type dream reality and become more lucid.

I know I will eventually leave this illusion but I came here for a purpose and I will enjoy it while I am here.

That you think I am delusional is of no consequence to me.

JB

"Alzimer" ..a God without laws is usually referred to as being a devil

"JennieBean"...you're merely calling life a game and that you are one of the players to dismiss the fact that you lack control over your life ...but you fail to realize that if you admit to be one of those that are creating the reality of the game then you are guilty for all the horrors caused by the game ...including your own

Whether you admit or realize it or not, all of the games in the matrix have great challenges, some are of life and death.

We are all collectively responsible for the manifestation of what ever reality we experience.

I take full responsibility for my personal reality and for my contribution to the matrix even though I may not be fully aware of the intricate workings of that cause.

I do not "dismiss" the fact that I do not (consciously) have complete control of my life. Gaining control over your own life and gaining self mastery is one of the aspects and challenges of the game. It is the only way to win the game, and it is one of the purposes of the game.

"JennieBean" if the game is an illusion then if you win and what you win is still only an illusion ...

The game is a "real game." It is based on the false belief that this game is "reality"

You are not in a position to have a discussion about the nature of the prize or "what you will win" until you have accepted the premise that you are actually "in the game" and that this so-called reality is an "illusion."

The prize may very well be another illusion or the freedom to choose another game or advance to another level. You will never know until you win this game. You will never win this game unless you know the rules of play and until you realize that it is a game and not the ultimate reality.

"JennieBean"...so...er..where is this "Free Will" you think you have ..the whole thing sounds like puppetry

We are not talking about The will.

If you have run out of points to make or questions to ask on this subject just say so.

If you want to talk about the WILL then start another thread, but I have talked with you about THE WILL before many times and I have not changed my point of view on it.

The Will is inherent in all life forms. It is the power of self direction.

JB

My will is controlled by my will... My reality is controlled by my will subject to how that which is I am concides with that which is you are.

My freedom to chose is never controlled by the choices YOU perceive to be available but by the choices I Perceive to be available.