Topic: Please list Gods ABSOLUTE laws...
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Thu 11/06/08 07:51 PM
I don't really understand matter let alone anti-matter.

What is NRG?

What would be the purpose of anti-matter?




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Thu 11/06/08 08:01 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Thu 11/06/08 08:01 PM
I am sorry I use short hand alot and forget myself sometimes when writing for others.

N R G = energy helps to say it out loud :wink:

JB don't feel bad no one really understands matter or energy. We can express them in terms of what they build, or what work they can do, or in terms of a transfer of forces, but we do not yet understand the full nature, nor the fundamentals of this stuff we call NRG and matter :wink:

If string theory is on the right track then everything at its most fundamental is strings vibrating within 11 dimensions.

But the next question will have to be what is vibrating what is it that manifests itself as strings (perhaps the spacetime itself, and perhaps that means you are right we are all holograms, but what is a hologram anyways . . . .)

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Antimatter is a kind of matter, just matter that is opposite charged from its partner matter.

We just call one matter ( the one we first discovered) and the other antimatter.

language is to blame.


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Thu 11/06/08 08:14 PM
Love your fellow man as you would yourself to me is the greatest commandment, law, advice, however you would word it. would solve a lot of problems I think, not all, but a lot of them.


Hello to all, have been pre occupied lately, will be a week or so before I return to Louisiana, will be able to post some then I hope. till then, hope all of you are doing great, in good cheer and good health, take care,

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Thu 11/06/08 08:22 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 11/06/08 09:08 PM
But the next question will have to be what is vibrating what is it that manifests itself as strings (perhaps the spacetime itself, and perhaps that means you are right we are all holograms, but what is a hologram anyways . . . .)


I don't know what is vibrating.

A thought perhaps.

But both light and sound are vibrations. This reality is, bottom line, made up of light and sound..... vibrations.

A hologram is a three dimensional projection of a visual picture.

Your dreams are holograms which are three dimensional visual pictures. Usually, in a dream, you occupy a body much like your own physical body. (Call it your dream body.)

You can also turn around and view things in all directions, up, down, behind you etc. You also appear to move through three dimensional space. You walk on the ground most of the time, and you see objects that appear to be "matter."

All of this dream reality is a projection of a visual three dimensional picture created by your mind.

If you can accept that premise about dreams, then compare it to this waking reality, you will find it is very similar.

Yet I can't seem to get anyone to follow me in this line of thinking because most people reject the idea that this waking reality is a dream-like creation of the mind. (Perhaps a universal mind.)

But bare with me for a minute and assume that you accept this premise for just a second. Accept that this waking reality is a mind created projection that works like a hologram.

The next question I asked, after having assumed this premise is ... why three dimensional?

Why not two dimensional? In this reality we see in front of us with two eyes. Each eye is in a slightly different location and the view from each eye is slightly different. Close one eye and the view is flat.

Close the other eye and the view is slightly different. We have two points of view with our two eyes. This is our vision.

And yet, we project three dimensional worlds in our dreams, and we can turn around and see in all directions. Why? When and how do we ever perceive things in a 360 degree angle in our waking consciousness? We don't. We only see from two eyes and two points of view.

So where does the vision (or information) for a three dimensional viewpoint come from?

This is my idea.

The spirit (or soul body)or "higher self" is a a sphere and this unit of awareness can "see" or perceive in all directions. (360 degrees.)

The vibrations surround the unit of awareness completely and the unite of awareness "sees" or perceives in all directions therefore interprets these vibrations in a three dimensional reality.

The unit of awareness is surrounded by incoming vibrations from all directions. It also sends out vibrations from its point of view, much like a particle that has waves coming in and going out.

Imagine this unit is sentient and call it the "observer." It interprets incoming waves from 360 degrees around it, and it projects its interpretation as a three dimensional reality.

something like that..bigsmile












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Thu 11/06/08 09:01 PM

But the next question will have to be what is vibrating what is it that manifests itself as strings (perhaps the space time itself, and perhaps that means you are right we are all holograms, but what is a hologram anyways . . . .)


I don't know what is vibrating.

A thought perhaps.

But both light and sound are vibrations. This reality is, bottom line, made up of light and sound..... vibrations.

A hologram is a three dimensional projection of a visual picture.

Your dreams are holograms which are three dimensional visual pictures. Usually, in a dream, you occupy a body much like your own physical body. (Call it your dream body.)

You can also turn around and view things in all directions, up, down, behind you etc. You also appear to move through three dimensional space. You walk on the ground most of the time, and you see objects that appear to be "matter."

All of this dream reality is a projection of a visual three dimensional picture created by your mind.

If you can accept that premise about dreams, then compare it to this waking reality, you will find it is very similar.

Yet I can't seem to get anyone to follow me in this line of thinking because most people reject the idea that this waking reality is a dream-like creation of the mind. (Perhaps a universal mind.)

But bare with me for a minute and assume that you accept this premise for just a second. Accept that this waking reality is a mind created projection that works like a hologram.

The next question I asked, after having assumed this premise is ... why three dimensional?

Why not two dimensional? In this reality we see in front of us with two eyes. Each eye is in a slightly different location and the view from each eye is slightly different. Close one eye and the view is flat.

Close the other eye and the view is slightly different. We have two points of view with our two eyes. This is our vision.

And yet, we project three dimensional worlds in our dreams, and we can turn around and see in all directions. Why? When and how do we ever perceive things in a 360 degree angle in our waking consciousness? We don't. We only see from two eyes and two points of view.

So where does the vision (or information) for a three dimensional viewpoint come from?

This is my idea.

The spirit (or soul body)or "higher self" is a a sphere and this unit of awareness can "see" or perceive in all directions. (360 degrees.)

The vibrations surround the unit of awareness completely and the unite of awareness "sees" or perceives in all directions therefore interprets these vibrations in a three dimensional reality.














i guess i have problems with it because of my lack of distinguishing from man made holograms and me as a hologram. man-made holograms to me have 4 dimensions not 3 - they are see-through - i am not. all the ones i have seen that are called 3 dimensional holograms like a person for instance is transparent, i know your probably talking of the flat ones, but what of the transparent people? animals. etc.. are they not 4 dimensional? if so then why are we not like that in this matrix you speak of?

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Thu 11/06/08 09:13 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 11/06/08 09:14 PM
That we are not "transparent" is a minor detail. I'm sure tech support can figure it out. laugh laugh

Are people transparent in your dreams?




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Thu 11/06/08 09:22 PM

That we are not "transparent" is a minor detail. I'm sure tech support can figure it out. laugh laugh

Are people transparent in your dreams?






actually i did have one dream i remember where my hand was see-thru - but that was along time ago. and once when i was tripping i saw my cat as transparent crystalline like. so yes i have.

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Thu 11/06/08 09:35 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 11/06/08 09:38 PM


That we are not "transparent" is a minor detail. I'm sure tech support can figure it out. laugh laugh

Are people transparent in your dreams?






actually i did have one dream i remember where my hand was see-thru - but that was along time ago. and once when i was tripping i saw my cat as transparent crystalline like. so yes i have.


I read about a hypnotist who hypnotized a man and convinced him his daughter was invisible. She was standing directly in front of him. Then the hypnotist pulled a playing card from a deck of cards and held it behind the daughter, and asked the man what card he was holding.

The man saw right through her and named the card.

totally amazing if it is true.

Imagine if you could do that and convince a man a wall did not exist or was invisible. He could see through the wall. Perhaps even walk through it? Or maybe just believe he did?

Hypnotism has some amazing possibilities in a holographic reality.


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Thu 11/06/08 09:47 PM



That we are not "transparent" is a minor detail. I'm sure tech support can figure it out. laugh laugh

Are people transparent in your dreams?






actually i did have one dream i remember where my hand was see-thru - but that was along time ago. and once when i was tripping i saw my cat as transparent crystalline like. so yes i have.


I read about a hypnotist who hypnotized a man and convinced him his daughter was invisible. She was standing directly in front of him. Then the hypnotist pulled a playing card from a deck of cards and held it behind the daughter, and asked the man what card he was holding.

The man saw right through her and named the card.

totally amazing if it is true.

Imagine if you could do that and convince a man a wall did not exist or was invisible. He could see through the wall. Perhaps even walk through it? Or maybe just believe he did?

Hypnotism has some amazing possibilities in a holographic reality.




Altered states ? such as LSD - how does that fit into your equation? when in a deep state of what is hallucinogenic is that part of the hologram? were messing with the circuits of the mind here but yet even though you may be aware of the state your in, it seems just as real as the ""normal"" state of the hologram? it's just an extrememly enhanced state of being.

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Thu 11/06/08 09:55 PM




That we are not "transparent" is a minor detail. I'm sure tech support can figure it out. laugh laugh

Are people transparent in your dreams?






actually i did have one dream i remember where my hand was see-thru - but that was along time ago. and once when i was tripping i saw my cat as transparent crystalline like. so yes i have.


I read about a hypnotist who hypnotized a man and convinced him his daughter was invisible. She was standing directly in front of him. Then the hypnotist pulled a playing card from a deck of cards and held it behind the daughter, and asked the man what card he was holding.

The man saw right through her and named the card.

totally amazing if it is true.

Imagine if you could do that and convince a man a wall did not exist or was invisible. He could see through the wall. Perhaps even walk through it? Or maybe just believe he did?

Hypnotism has some amazing possibilities in a holographic reality.




Altered states ? such as LSD - how does that fit into your equation? when in a deep state of what is hallucinogenic is that part of the hologram? were messing with the circuits of the mind here but yet even though you may be aware of the state your in, it seems just as real as the ""normal"" state of the hologram? it's just an extrememly enhanced state of being.



Yea Tribo when I was 19 20 wierd how doing mind alterating drugs in a group of people how all of you seemed to be on the same wave length and everything made since to the group. Bring in someone who had not done anything and they thought we were crazy (we really were) and could not connect with us. i do believe it is some kind of mind/spiritual connection that happens.. Shalom..Miles

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Thu 11/06/08 09:56 PM




That we are not "transparent" is a minor detail. I'm sure tech support can figure it out. laugh laugh

Are people transparent in your dreams?






actually i did have one dream i remember where my hand was see-thru - but that was along time ago. and once when i was tripping i saw my cat as transparent crystalline like. so yes i have.


I read about a hypnotist who hypnotized a man and convinced him his daughter was invisible. She was standing directly in front of him. Then the hypnotist pulled a playing card from a deck of cards and held it behind the daughter, and asked the man what card he was holding.

The man saw right through her and named the card.

totally amazing if it is true.

Imagine if you could do that and convince a man a wall did not exist or was invisible. He could see through the wall. Perhaps even walk through it? Or maybe just believe he did?

Hypnotism has some amazing possibilities in a holographic reality.




Altered states ? such as LSD - how does that fit into your equation? when in a deep state of what is hallucinogenic is that part of the hologram? were messing with the circuits of the mind here but yet even though you may be aware of the state your in, it seems just as real as the ""normal"" state of the hologram? it's just an extrememly enhanced state of being.


There are unlimited possibilities in a holographic reality. I could not begin to comprehend or even imagine what they all might be. Not to mention personal realities that don't jive with the collective mind's agreed upon state of things. I think its flexible, but snaps back into place after isolated anomalies.


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Thu 11/06/08 10:19 PM





That we are not "transparent" is a minor detail. I'm sure tech support can figure it out. laugh laugh

Are people transparent in your dreams?






actually i did have one dream i remember where my hand was see-thru - but that was along time ago. and once when i was tripping i saw my cat as transparent crystalline like. so yes i have.


I read about a hypnotist who hypnotized a man and convinced him his daughter was invisible. She was standing directly in front of him. Then the hypnotist pulled a playing card from a deck of cards and held it behind the daughter, and asked the man what card he was holding.

The man saw right through her and named the card.

totally amazing if it is true.

Imagine if you could do that and convince a man a wall did not exist or was invisible. He could see through the wall. Perhaps even walk through it? Or maybe just believe he did?

Hypnotism has some amazing possibilities in a holographic reality.




Altered states ? such as LSD - how does that fit into your equation? when in a deep state of what is hallucinogenic is that part of the hologram? were messing with the circuits of the mind here but yet even though you may be aware of the state your in, it seems just as real as the ""normal"" state of the hologram? it's just an extrememly enhanced state of being.


There are unlimited possibilities in a holographic reality. I could not begin to comprehend or even imagine what they all might be. Not to mention personal realities that don't jive with the collective mind's agreed upon state of things. I think its flexible, but snaps back into place after isolated anomalies.




well my lady, if you want to find out "spiritual" things there is no better way than to do the lsd. you think your mind has expanded? you aint seen nothing yet - i assure you you will [for a while] feel you know the mind of god, you will know all the answers [for awhile] unfortunately, you will loose them when you come back down, still it is well worth the expierience!!

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Thu 11/06/08 10:23 PM
Edited by tribo on Thu 11/06/08 10:25 PM





That we are not "transparent" is a minor detail. I'm sure tech support can figure it out. laugh laugh

Are people transparent in your dreams?






actually i did have one dream i remember where my hand was see-thru - but that was along time ago. and once when i was tripping i saw my cat as transparent crystalline like. so yes i have.


I read about a hypnotist who hypnotized a man and convinced him his daughter was invisible. She was standing directly in front of him. Then the hypnotist pulled a playing card from a deck of cards and held it behind the daughter, and asked the man what card he was holding.

The man saw right through her and named the card.

totally amazing if it is true.

Imagine if you could do that and convince a man a wall did not exist or was invisible. He could see through the wall. Perhaps even walk through it? Or maybe just believe he did?

Hypnotism has some amazing possibilities in a holographic reality.




Altered states ? such as LSD - how does that fit into your equation? when in a deep state of what is hallucinogenic is that part of the hologram? were messing with the circuits of the mind here but yet even though you may be aware of the state your in, it seems just as real as the ""normal"" state of the hologram? it's just an extrememly enhanced state of being.



Yea Tribo when I was 19 20 wierd how doing mind alterating drugs in a group of people how all of you seemed to be on the same wave length and everything made since to the group. Bring in someone who had not done anything and they thought we were crazy (we really were) and could not connect with us. i do believe it is some kind of mind/spiritual connection that happens.. Shalom..Miles


very true my friend - until you've expierienced it you'll never know. to me it proved that this is not a 3 dimensional world or life or expierience, but multi-dimensional, far past anything i knew of before. that is where i got my whole idea of life and everything else being vibrational. it's one thing talking about it being vibrational - but when you actually see it in an altered state [everything vibrating] the whole universe, then you know, its no longer theory - its what is.

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Thu 11/06/08 10:33 PM
well my lady, if you want to find out "spiritual" things there is no better way than to do the lsd. you think your mind has expanded? you aint seen nothing yet - i assure you you will [for a while] feel you know the mind of god, you will know all the answers [for awhile] unfortunately, you will loose them when you come back down, still it is well worth the expierience!!


laugh laugh

I don't know where to get any. I also believe that there are other ways to reach and experience "spiritual" things besides drugs.


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Thu 11/06/08 10:44 PM

well my lady, if you want to find out "spiritual" things there is no better way than to do the lsd. you think your mind has expanded? you aint seen nothing yet - i assure you you will [for a while] feel you know the mind of god, you will know all the answers [for awhile] unfortunately, you will loose them when you come back down, still it is well worth the expierience!!


laugh laugh

I don't know where to get any. I also believe that there are other ways to reach and experience "spiritual" things besides drugs.




i thought you said you knew of a place that was doing this? hmmm?

there may be other ways, i cant say, but "NOTHING" will get you close to what LSD does. so keep trying give it your best shot - and when you think you've reached the ultimate reality - THEN - take some LSD you will find [as i said] you will then have [for awhile] the mind of god!! whatever your concept maybe of that entity. all this i did before becoming a C so i had no influence as to thinking along those lines - i was into the wisdom of the idiots and Allan Watts at the time.

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Fri 11/07/08 05:39 AM
I don't think all LSD trips are the same. But I do know a guy who does this without any kind of drugs. He uses sacred geometry and other things like meditation etc. (He says it's pretty cool to experience that, but after a while, it gets a little boring.) (What ever method you use, it involves the pineal gland and DMT.) I'll pass on the LSD. If I can't do it a more natural way I would just prefer to remain in a common state of human delusional consciousness.




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Fri 11/07/08 06:09 AM

I don't think all LSD trips are the same. But I do know a guy who does this without any kind of drugs. He uses sacred geometry and other things like meditation etc. (He says it's pretty cool to experience that, but after a while, it gets a little boring.) (What ever method you use, it involves the pineal gland and DMT.) I'll pass on the LSD. If I can't do it a more natural way I would just prefer to remain in a common state of human delusional consciousness.







awwww, poor BB, to each their own. At your age it may not be a good idea anyway.

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Fri 11/07/08 06:11 AM

If you can actually prove such a thing as an absolute law of god...smokin



Lev 19:17-18

17'You shall not hate your brother in your heart. You shall surely rebuke your neighbor, and not bear sin because of him. 18 You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am Yahweh.
NKJV

Lev 19:33-34

33'And if a stranger dwells with you in your land, you shall not mistreat him. 34 The stranger who dwells among you shall be to you as one born among you, and you shall love him as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am Yahweh your Elohim.
NKJV

Deut 6:4-5

4 "Hear, O Israel: Yahweh our Elohim, Yahweh is one! 5 You shall love Yahweh your Elohim with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength.
NKJV


Nothing changed when Yahshua came...


Matt 5:43-6:1

"You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' 44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47 And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so? 48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.


NKJV

Matt 22:37-40

37 Yahshua said to him, "'You shall love Yahweh your Elohim with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.' 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' 40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."
NKJV
That says it I believe..Blessings...Miles

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Fri 11/07/08 08:45 AM
How about this for an "absolute law"


Sycamore trees are proof that God abhors a straight line.

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Mon 11/10/08 09:55 AM






That we are not "transparent" is a minor detail. I'm sure tech support can figure it out. laugh laugh

Are people transparent in your dreams?






actually i did have one dream i remember where my hand was see-thru - but that was along time ago. and once when i was tripping i saw my cat as transparent crystalline like. so yes i have.


I read about a hypnotist who hypnotized a man and convinced him his daughter was invisible. She was standing directly in front of him. Then the hypnotist pulled a playing card from a deck of cards and held it behind the daughter, and asked the man what card he was holding.

The man saw right through her and named the card.

totally amazing if it is true.

Imagine if you could do that and convince a man a wall did not exist or was invisible. He could see through the wall. Perhaps even walk through it? Or maybe just believe he did?

Hypnotism has some amazing possibilities in a holographic reality.




Altered states ? such as LSD - how does that fit into your equation? when in a deep state of what is hallucinogenic is that part of the hologram? were messing with the circuits of the mind here but yet even though you may be aware of the state your in, it seems just as real as the ""normal"" state of the hologram? it's just an extrememly enhanced state of being.


There are unlimited possibilities in a holographic reality. I could not begin to comprehend or even imagine what they all might be. Not to mention personal realities that don't jive with the collective mind's agreed upon state of things. I think its flexible, but snaps back into place after isolated anomalies.




well my lady, if you want to find out "spiritual" things there is no better way than to do the lsd. you think your mind has expanded? you aint seen nothing yet - i assure you you will [for a while] feel you know the mind of god, you will know all the answers [for awhile] unfortunately, you will loose them when you come back down, still it is well worth the expierience!!

Some do not lose them...

It is simply hard to translate a multi-dimensional reality into the 2 diminsional language(s) that are spoken upon the earth.

The knowledge exists... Putting it in terms that people can understand requires a better tool that language.