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Topic: Pro-Life is Anti-Woman
singmesweet Joined Mon 07/28/08 Posts: 26661	Wed 10/22/08 09:02 AM
I will bet you it's more common for a woman to get an abortion because she's concerned about her looks. You seriously think that?

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Wed 10/22/08 09:02 AM
I have never had an abortion. Personally, I think it is probably wrong however I know I am not smart enough or divine to decide what's morally right for another person. I know several people who have had abortions. One, a now 71 year old woman, had a then illegal but safe procedure in her doctors office. She and her husband had two children who had medical issues that were not immediately evident. She had no regrets and saw it as a distasteful but necessary procedure that would prevent another child from being affected by the disease her husband had unknowingly passed on. They lost both their sons to disease. Another friend, who is strongly pro-life, has had three abortions. She and her husband had two children as well. In her case I know at least one was done out of convince. She is hateful about the issue. I think it's obvious why. I think many pro-choice people are like me. We'd like to see fewer abortions performed. Good information and accessible birth control equals fewer pregnancies. By the way, if men got pregnant too it's my bet that we wouldn't be having this discussion at all. Aye... We wouldn't need women... this would remove at least half if not more of the problems in this world I personally think its time to give woman a chance..Us men seem to just f...things up..I have to add NOT PALIN..

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Wed 10/22/08 09:15 AM
I oppose women killing their babies, even if the baby is going to leave stretch marks and she's really not ready for the hassle. Do you think so little of women that you think it's about the stretch marks? No, sometimes they just don't want to deal with the hassle of having a baby. I gave two reasons why women get abortions. The whole "Daddy raped me and I'm pregnant" crap is given all the time as a reason why abortions must be legal, but that is an incredibly rare circumstance. I will bet you it's more common for a woman to get an abortion because she's concerned about her looks. It is not rare. I have a couple of friends that were raped. My cousin's daughter was date raped. I have had to deal with two date rape attempts. A woman that my mom worked with was raped and murdered. My friend has a 12 yr. old daughter that the step-dad was with and he is serving 15 yrs. Don't even tell me that it's crap and that you bet it's more about the woman's looks..

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Wed 10/22/08 09:17 AM
I will bet you it's more common for a woman to get an abortion because she's concerned about her looks. You seriously think that? Do I seriously think it's more common for a woman to get an abortion because of how it will effect her looks vs a woman getting an abortion because she was raped by her father? YES. So you believe that the number of fathers who rape their daughters outweighs the number of image obsessed women?

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Wed 10/22/08 09:19 AM
I oppose women killing their babies, even if the baby is going to leave stretch marks and she's really not ready for the hassle. Do you think so little of women that you think it's about the stretch marks? No, sometimes they just don't want to deal with the hassle of having a baby. I gave two reasons why women get abortions. The whole "Daddy raped me and I'm pregnant" crap is given all the time as a reason why abortions must be legal, but that is an incredibly rare circumstance. I will bet you it's more common for a woman to get an abortion because she's concerned about her looks. It is not rare. I have a couple of friends that were raped. My cousin's daughter was date raped. I have had to deal with two date rape attempts. A woman that my mom worked with was raped and murdered. My friend has a 12 yr. old daughter that the step-dad was with and he is serving 15 yrs. Don't even tell me that it's crap and that you bet it's more about the woman's looks.. What you have done is called a Strawman fallacy. I was specifically talking about daughters being raped by their fathers, so you changed it around to rape in general. Sorry, but I'm not as dumb as I look, I don't fall for Strawman fallacies. Address what I actually said, if you wish, but I have no interest in watching you twist my words around and put new words in my mouth.

singmesweet Joined Mon 07/28/08 Posts: 26661	Wed 10/22/08 09:21 AM
I will bet you it's more common for a woman to get an abortion because she's concerned about her looks. You seriously think that? Do I seriously think it's more common for a woman to get an abortion because of how it will effect her looks vs a woman getting an abortion because she was raped by her father? YES. So you believe that the number of fathers who rape their daughters outweighs the number of image obsessed women? Ok, so not comparing it to rape, do you really think many woman are running out to get abortions because of their looks?

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Wed 10/22/08 09:23 AM
I will bet you it's more common for a woman to get an abortion because she's concerned about her looks. You seriously think that? Do I seriously think it's more common for a woman to get an abortion because of how it will effect her looks vs a woman getting an abortion because she was raped by her father? YES. So you believe that the number of fathers who rape their daughters outweighs the number of image obsessed women? Ok, so not comparing it to rape, do you really think many woman are running out to get abortions because of their looks? My position is that women are more likely to get an abortion to save their looks than they are because they were raped by their fathers. I don't want to run off on any tangents. If you want to argue against my position, please do so.

singmesweet Joined Mon 07/28/08 Posts: 26661	Wed 10/22/08 09:44 AM
I will bet you it's more common for a woman to get an abortion because she's concerned about her looks. You seriously think that? Do I seriously think it's more common for a woman to get an abortion because of how it will effect her looks vs a woman getting an abortion because she was raped by her father? YES. So you believe that the number of fathers who rape their daughters outweighs the number of image obsessed women? Ok, so not comparing it to rape, do you really think many woman are running out to get abortions because of their looks? My position is that women are more likely to get an abortion to save their looks than they are because they were raped by their fathers. I don't want to run off on any tangents. If you want to argue against my position, please do so. Just curious, do you know any women who have gotten abortions because of looks?

Californication Joined Mon 10/20/08 Posts: 65	Wed 10/22/08 09:47 AM
AMEN to that! Rights don't come WITHOUT responsiblity. I think some have it backward. Nowhere in the constitution or BoR's did the founders ever say that abortion was a "right." Well, if rights don't come without responsibility, then what rights does an unborn fetus have? Circular logic is fun!

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Wed 10/22/08 09:48 AM
I will bet you it's more common for a woman to get an abortion because she's concerned about her looks. You seriously think that? Do I seriously think it's more common for a woman to get an abortion because of how it will effect her looks vs a woman getting an abortion because she was raped by her father? YES. So you believe that the number of fathers who rape their daughters outweighs the number of image obsessed women? Ok, so not comparing it to rape, do you really think many woman are running out to get abortions because of their looks? My position is that women are more likely to get an abortion to save their looks than they are because they were raped by their fathers. I don't want to run off on any tangents. If you want to argue against my position, please do so. Just curious, do you know any women who have gotten abortions because of looks? Nope. I don't know any that got abortions because of incest either. I did read about a woman who left her two babies in the car while she was getting her hair and nails done and they both died from sunstroke. It seems she was a bit more concerned about her looks than her kids.

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Wed 10/22/08 09:48 AM
I oppose women killing their babies, even if the baby is going to leave stretch marks and she's really not ready for the hassle. Do you think so little of women that you think it's about the stretch marks? No, sometimes they just don't want to deal with the hassle of having a baby. I gave two reasons why women get abortions. The whole "Daddy raped me and I'm pregnant" crap is given all the time as a reason why abortions must be legal, but that is an incredibly rare circumstance. I will bet you it's more common for a woman to get an abortion because she's concerned about her looks. It is not rare. I have a couple of friends that were raped. My cousin's daughter was date raped. I have had to deal with two date rape attempts. A woman that my mom worked with was raped and murdered. My friend has a 12 yr. old daughter that the step-dad was with and he is serving 15 yrs. Don't even tell me that it's crap and that you bet it's more about the woman's looks.. What you have done is called a Strawman fallacy. I was specifically talking about daughters being raped by their fathers, so you changed it around to rape in general. Sorry, but I'm not as dumb as I look, I don't fall for Strawman fallacies. Address what I actually said, if you wish, but I have no interest in watching you twist my words around and put new words in my mouth. Did you happen see that one of the people I knew was a child raped by their step-father? There is also an older man a block away from me. He was in jail for raping a minor family member. They won't let him give out candy on Halloween. I am only one person and I know of two people. I also read the newspaper and see it happening.

singmesweet Joined Mon 07/28/08 Posts: 26661	Wed 10/22/08 09:54 AM
I will bet you it's more common for a woman to get an abortion because she's concerned about her looks. You seriously think that? Do I seriously think it's more common for a woman to get an abortion because of how it will effect her looks vs a woman getting an abortion because she was raped by her father? YES. So you believe that the number of fathers who rape their daughters outweighs the number of image obsessed women? Ok, so not comparing it to rape, do you really think many woman are running out to get abortions because of their looks? My position is that women are more likely to get an abortion to save their looks than they are because they were raped by their fathers. I don't want to run off on any tangents. If you want to argue against my position, please do so. Just curious, do you know any women who have gotten abortions because of looks? Nope. I don't know any that got abortions because of incest either. I did read about a woman who left her two babies in the car while she was getting her hair and nails done and they both died from sunstroke. It seems she was a bit more concerned about her looks than her kids. That is horrible. But that's not what you were talking about.

blackxbird Joined Wed 10/15/08 Posts: 129	Wed 10/22/08 09:54 AM
I will bet you it's more common for a woman to get an abortion because she's concerned about her looks. You seriously think that? Do I seriously think it's more common for a woman to get an abortion because of how it will effect her looks vs a woman getting an abortion because she was raped by her father? YES. So you believe that the number of fathers who rape their daughters outweighs the number of image obsessed women? Ok, so not comparing it to rape, do you really think many woman are running out to get abortions because of their looks? My position is that women are more likely to get an abortion to save their looks than they are because they were raped by their fathers. I don't want to run off on any tangents. If you want to argue against my position, please do so. Just curious, do you know any women who have gotten abortions because of looks? Nope. I don't know any that got abortions because of incest either. I did read about a woman who left her two babies in the car while she was getting her hair and nails done and they both died from sunstroke. It seems she was a bit more concerned about her looks than her kids. So are you just a misogynist then, or what?

Lynann Joined Mon 10/01/07 Posts: 4072	Wed 10/22/08 09:56 AM
Sounds like someone is angry at women.

singmesweet Joined Mon 07/28/08 Posts: 26661	Wed 10/22/08 09:58 AM
Sounds like someone is angry at women. Yes, that's what it sounds like to me.

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Wed 10/22/08 10:05 AM
I will bet you it's more common for a woman to get an abortion because she's concerned about her looks. You seriously think that? Do I seriously think it's more common for a woman to get an abortion because of how it will effect her looks vs a woman getting an abortion because she was raped by her father? YES. So you believe that the number of fathers who rape their daughters outweighs the number of image obsessed women? Ok, so not comparing it to rape, do you really think many woman are running out to get abortions because of their looks? My position is that women are more likely to get an abortion to save their looks than they are because they were raped by their fathers. I don't want to run off on any tangents. If you want to argue against my position, please do so. Just curious, do you know any women who have gotten abortions because of looks? Nope. I don't know any that got abortions because of incest either. I did read about a woman who left her two babies in the car while she was getting her hair and nails done and they both died from sunstroke. It seems she was a bit more concerned about her looks than her kids. So are you just a misogynist then, or what? I just learned a new word.

blackxbird Joined Wed 10/15/08 Posts: 129	Wed 10/22/08 10:08 AM
I just learned a new word.

Spidercmb Joined Fri 04/27/07 Posts: 13137	Wed 10/22/08 10:12 AM Edited by Spidercmb on Wed 10/22/08 10:13 AM
No, I just think that the Incest excuse for why Abortion must be legal is ridiculous. If you have to libel me to feel like you have made a point, then you have issues. If you are willing to commit libel and accept fallacious logic to hold onto your beloved right to infanticide, then that's your problem and one I am very happy to not share in.

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Wed 10/22/08 10:12 AM
I just learned a new word.

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Wed 10/22/08 10:16 AM Edited by Winx on Wed 10/22/08 10:18 AM
No, I just think that the Incest excuse for why Abortion must be legal is ridiculous. If you have to libel me to feel like you have made a point, then you have issue. If you are willing to commit libel and accept fallacious logic to hold onto your beloved right to infanticide, then that's your problem and one I am very happy to not share in. Now that you know that my friend's 12 yr. old daughter was raped by her step-dad and he is in prison for 15 yrs..... Now that you know that there is an older man on the next street from me that served time for raping a minor family member.... Now that you know that there's many cases of it in the news... I'll tell you about another friend. Her Uncle molested her and her sisters. They never talked about it until they were adults. Yep, incest is an excuse. Yep. Un-huh. Just an excuse.