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Topic: Lawsuit in every state 'til O proves his b/c or NOT!
MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 10/21/08 12:40 PM
:smile: If one of your parents is an American then you are an American no matter where you are born.flowerforyou

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Tue 10/21/08 12:43 PM


Who cares about all this extreanous dino duuuuky.

When it comes time to vote I hope, no matter who you end up voting for, that you base your vote on ACTUALLY IMPORTANT THINGS...

where a person was born has no real bearing on what they stand for or the record they have built over the years.

Voting is a responsibility... We should treat it as such... we should research the true issues and vote based on what we think that canditate is bringing to the table.




Yes, and why do U get to vote??

Could someone from another country come here, and in your state (or anywhere in the USA)vote for our president??

Nope, there are rules. AND O needs to follow them too, don't you think? (smile) BB
You know its down right rude to post crap and not answer peoples questions..Is that a debate???Something you said you like to do!!

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Tue 10/21/08 12:44 PM



Who cares about all this extreanous dino duuuuky.

When it comes time to vote I hope, no matter who you end up voting for, that you base your vote on ACTUALLY IMPORTANT THINGS...

where a person was born has no real bearing on what they stand for or the record they have built over the years.

Voting is a responsibility... We should treat it as such... we should research the true issues and vote based on what we think that canditate is bringing to the table.




Yes, and why do U get to vote??

Could someone from another country come here, and in your state (or anywhere in the USA)vote for our president??

Nope, there are rules. AND O needs to follow them too, don't you think? (smile) BB
You know its down right rude to post crap and not answer peoples questions..Is that a debate???Something you said you like to do!!
And if thats what you do then all you are is slinging crap!!!!

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Tue 10/21/08 12:45 PM



Who cares about all this extreanous dino duuuuky.

When it comes time to vote I hope, no matter who you end up voting for, that you base your vote on ACTUALLY IMPORTANT THINGS...

where a person was born has no real bearing on what they stand for or the record they have built over the years.

Voting is a responsibility... We should treat it as such... we should research the true issues and vote based on what we think that canditate is bringing to the table.




Yes, and why do U get to vote??

Could someone from another country come here, and in your state (or anywhere in the USA)vote for our president??

Nope, there are rules. AND O needs to follow them too, don't you think? (smile) BB
You know its down right rude to post crap and not answer peoples questions..Is that a debate???Something you said you like to do!!


only when convenient and when she gets to cut and paste rofl

advil - here I come


ohwidow's photo
Tue 10/21/08 12:49 PM

Did you hear me? McCain has a truth squad!


Yes, I posted that awhile back.. What I said was (adding to it prior)
that they do not go around shutting down, removing and zapping sites like the O camp has.

Even hiring ----copy---

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/09/missouris_obama_truth_squads_2.html

“What Senator Obama and his helpers are doing is scandalous beyond words, the party that claims to be the party of Thomas Jefferson is abusing the justice system and offices of public trust to silence political criticism with threats of prosecution and criminal punishment.



“This abuse of the law for intimidation insults the most sacred principles and ideals of Jefferson. I can think of nothing more offensive to Jefferson’s thinking than using the power of the state to deprive Americans of their civil rights. The only conceivable purpose of Messrs. McCulloch, Obama and the others is to frighten people away from expressing themselves, to chill free and open debate, to suppress support and donations to conservative organizations targeted by this anti-civil rights, to strangle criticism of Mr. Obama, to suppress ads about his support of higher taxes, and to choke out criticism on television, radio, the Internet, blogs, e-mail and daily conversation about the election.



“Barack Obama needs to grow up. Leftist blogs and others in the press constantly say false things about me and my family. Usually, we ignore false and scurrilous accusations because the purveyors have no credibility. When necessary, we refute them. Enlisting Missouri law enforcement to intimidate people and kill free debate is reminiscent of the Sedition Acts - not a free society.”-- end--

We wouldn't care, IMO, if we just had not uncovered SO many lies and fraud coming out about O! BB

PS, No, McCain does not need to do such as this.

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Tue 10/21/08 01:01 PM


Did you hear me? McCain has a truth squad!


Yes, I posted that awhile back.. What I said was (adding to it prior)
that they do not go around shutting down, removing and zapping sites like the O camp has.

Even hiring ----copy---

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/09/missouris_obama_truth_squads_2.html

“What Senator Obama and his helpers are doing is scandalous beyond words, the party that claims to be the party of Thomas Jefferson is abusing the justice system and offices of public trust to silence political criticism with threats of prosecution and criminal punishment.



“This abuse of the law for intimidation insults the most sacred principles and ideals of Jefferson. I can think of nothing more offensive to Jefferson’s thinking than using the power of the state to deprive Americans of their civil rights. The only conceivable purpose of Messrs. McCulloch, Obama and the others is to frighten people away from expressing themselves, to chill free and open debate, to suppress support and donations to conservative organizations targeted by this anti-civil rights, to strangle criticism of Mr. Obama, to suppress ads about his support of higher taxes, and to choke out criticism on television, radio, the Internet, blogs, e-mail and daily conversation about the election.



“Barack Obama needs to grow up. Leftist blogs and others in the press constantly say false things about me and my family. Usually, we ignore false and scurrilous accusations because the purveyors have no credibility. When necessary, we refute them. Enlisting Missouri law enforcement to intimidate people and kill free debate is reminiscent of the Sedition Acts - not a free society.”-- end--

We wouldn't care, IMO, if we just had not uncovered SO many lies and fraud coming out about O! BB

PS, No, McCain does not need to do such as this.
But obviously you do..You are doing the same thing you are condemning..Please answers peoples questions that they post..Plz go back and read..If not you have lost all respect for you and your beliefs..You post and people ask and get ignored..Very disrespectful..

ohwidow's photo
Tue 10/21/08 01:03 PM
Edited by ohwidow on Tue 10/21/08 01:18 PM
>>LOL..You just keep going. You question Obamas health but fail to answer McCain's..You say his records were release but to who and when..You bash him for family values when its well documented about McCains affair while being married..The law suits, well??? The BIG M Obama TAPE???? We are still waiting on all of the above. Answer a question honestly,

You know its down right rude to post crap and not answer peoples questions..Is that a debate???Something you said you like to do!!

Okay, sorry, was getting to some others on here first.

McCains Medical records were released, left link
here's another.
http://www.johnmccain.com/mccainrecords/

Military records, something were opened, some not. Private lives, -that's okay. He has passed tons of tests, and his history, altho not perfect, is better than many a man could do.

(Oh, U had mentioned it must be the smoking why I don't like O?? LAUGHING, one challenge he can't overcome, and M can DID overcome so many much larger hurdles!!) And his divorce, wasn't there, but read report from the first Mrs.M, she's okay with him. Don't recall bashing O for his family values, however did copy some interesting things about them.

No, don't have all the answers. No, am not paid to 'rally' on McCain's side (or either). Yes, I heard M say O was a fine man. No, didn't hear him comment on his 'right' to fake or lie, or evade the issue of O's b/certificate.

If U have a link U think I should see, pls do so. I do not think however, that many are looking at links that might prove them wrong about their man.....hummmm

Does that make sense? Anything else I missed?
Have a Good one, Betty

PS. Nope, do not post crap.
Do not reduce the discussion to name calling or personal attacks to 'friends' on here. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I just hope some of this brings to light another side, for a more Informed Choice.....no lies, I don't.
Yep, do copy - paste, and spell-check too. Smile,
and will need to get back to U on the tapes.. BB

MirrorMirror's photo
Tue 10/21/08 01:04 PM


Did you hear me? McCain has a truth squad!


Yes, I posted that awhile back.. What I said was (adding to it prior)
that they do not go around shutting down, removing and zapping sites like the O camp has.

Even hiring ----copy---

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/09/missouris_obama_truth_squads_2.html

“What Senator Obama and his helpers are doing is scandalous beyond words, the party that claims to be the party of Thomas Jefferson is abusing the justice system and offices of public trust to silence political criticism with threats of prosecution and criminal punishment.



“This abuse of the law for intimidation insults the most sacred principles and ideals of Jefferson. I can think of nothing more offensive to Jefferson’s thinking than using the power of the state to deprive Americans of their civil rights. The only conceivable purpose of Messrs. McCulloch, Obama and the others is to frighten people away from expressing themselves, to chill free and open debate, to suppress support and donations to conservative organizations targeted by this anti-civil rights, to strangle criticism of Mr. Obama, to suppress ads about his support of higher taxes, and to choke out criticism on television, radio, the Internet, blogs, e-mail and daily conversation about the election.



“Barack Obama needs to grow up. Leftist blogs and others in the press constantly say false things about me and my family. Usually, we ignore false and scurrilous accusations because the purveyors have no credibility. When necessary, we refute them. Enlisting Missouri law enforcement to intimidate people and kill free debate is reminiscent of the Sedition Acts - not a free society.”-- end--

We wouldn't care, IMO, if we just had not uncovered SO many lies and fraud coming out about O! BB

PS, No, McCain does not need to do such as this.
flowerforyouIf you have some valid information shouldnt you be calling the F.B.I.?flowerforyouGo call them and tell them the stuff your telling us.flowerforyouI dare ya.:tongue:

Winx's photo
Tue 10/21/08 01:04 PM
Obama's Truth Squad is happening in my city.

http://www.kmov.com/localnews/stories/kmov_election_092808_truthsquad.bec69e89.html?npc

I will show more later.

Winx's photo
Tue 10/21/08 01:10 PM


You know its down right rude to post crap and not answer peoples questions..Is that a debate???Something you said you like to do!!

Okay, sorry, was getting to some others on here first.

No, don't have all the answers. No, am not paid to 'rally' on McCain's side (or either). Yes, I heard M say O was a fine man. No, didn't hear him comment on his 'right' to fake or lie, or evade the issue of O's b/certificate.

If U have a link U think I should see, pls do so. I do not think however, that many are looking at links that might prove them wrong about their man.....hummmm

Does that make sense? Anything else I missed?
Have a Good one, Betty

PS. Nope, do not post crap.
Do not reduce the discussion to name calling or personal attacks to 'friends' on here. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I just hope some of this brings to light another side, for a more Informed Choice.....no lies, I don't.
Yep, do copy - paste, and spell-check too. Smile, BB


I would like you to see this. At least the first three. They are not long.

therealmccain,com

Winx's photo
Tue 10/21/08 01:12 PM


Did you hear me? McCain has a truth squad!


Yes, I posted that awhile back.. What I said was (adding to it prior)
that they do not go around shutting down, removing and zapping sites like the O camp has.

Even hiring ----copy---

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/09/missouris_obama_truth_squads_2.html

“What Senator Obama and his helpers are doing is scandalous beyond words, the party that claims to be the party of Thomas Jefferson is abusing the justice system and offices of public trust to silence political criticism with threats of prosecution and criminal punishment.



“This abuse of the law for intimidation insults the most sacred principles and ideals of Jefferson. I can think of nothing more offensive to Jefferson’s thinking than using the power of the state to deprive Americans of their civil rights. The only conceivable purpose of Messrs. McCulloch, Obama and the others is to frighten people away from expressing themselves, to chill free and open debate, to suppress support and donations to conservative organizations targeted by this anti-civil rights, to strangle criticism of Mr. Obama, to suppress ads about his support of higher taxes, and to choke out criticism on television, radio, the Internet, blogs, e-mail and daily conversation about the election.



“Barack Obama needs to grow up. Leftist blogs and others in the press constantly say false things about me and my family. Usually, we ignore false and scurrilous accusations because the purveyors have no credibility. When necessary, we refute them. Enlisting Missouri law enforcement to intimidate people and kill free debate is reminiscent of the Sedition Acts - not a free society.”-- end--

We wouldn't care, IMO, if we just had not uncovered SO many lies and fraud coming out about O! BB

PS, No, McCain does not need to do such as this.


If you want accurate information about the Truth Squad here, look for the St. Louis Post-Dispatch and/or KMOV. Not the American Thinker.

no photo
Tue 10/21/08 01:13 PM


You know its down right rude to post crap and not answer peoples questions..Is that a debate???Something you said you like to do!!

Okay, sorry, was getting to some others on here first.

No, don't have all the answers. No, am not paid to 'rally' on McCain's side (or either). Yes, I heard M say O was a fine man. No, didn't hear him comment on his 'right' to fake or lie, or evade the issue of O's b/certificate.

If U have a link U think I should see, pls do so. I do not think however, that many are looking at links that might prove them wrong about their man.....hummmm

Does that make sense? Anything else I missed?
Have a Good one, Betty

PS. Nope, do not post crap.
Do not reduce the discussion to name calling or personal attacks to 'friends' on here. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I just hope some of this brings to light another side, for a more Informed Choice.....no lies, I don't.
Yep, do copy - paste, and spell-check too. Smile, BB
Im sorry, there is a difference in biased opinions and lies. Im sorry you post biased sites...You forgot about Obama's medical records and mcCain's medical records..Also about family values and McCain's affair..Annenberg was another question..Sorry for the spelling sometimes don't spell check but hey I have a 9th grade education but consider myself knowledgeable about current affairs..I will find that link abot McCains comments..It was on Fox news so I will find it for you..

Winx's photo
Tue 10/21/08 01:15 PM



You know its down right rude to post crap and not answer peoples questions..Is that a debate???Something you said you like to do!!

Okay, sorry, was getting to some others on here first.

No, don't have all the answers. No, am not paid to 'rally' on McCain's side (or either). Yes, I heard M say O was a fine man. No, didn't hear him comment on his 'right' to fake or lie, or evade the issue of O's b/certificate.

If U have a link U think I should see, pls do so. I do not think however, that many are looking at links that might prove them wrong about their man.....hummmm

Does that make sense? Anything else I missed?
Have a Good one, Betty

PS. Nope, do not post crap.
Do not reduce the discussion to name calling or personal attacks to 'friends' on here. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I just hope some of this brings to light another side, for a more Informed Choice.....no lies, I don't.
Yep, do copy - paste, and spell-check too. Smile, BB
Im sorry, there is a difference in biased opinions and lies. Im sorry you post biased sites...You forgot about Obama's medical records and mcCain's medical records..Also about family values and McCain's affair..Annenberg was another question..Sorry for the spelling sometimes don't spell check but hey I have a 9th grade education but consider myself knowledgeable about current affairs..I will find that link abot McCains comments..It was on Fox news so I will find it for you..


What is Anneberg?

ohwidow's photo
Tue 10/21/08 01:24 PM
T- while U were answering me, I was editing my last response to U, and had added the other items, so I think I had them all covered.

Hey, who said anything about a need to apologize? I too, do not have a GED or h/s diploma, no sweat no foul, no problem. It doesn't make us any less of a voice, or a vote. Warmest Regards, BB

ohwidow's photo
Tue 10/21/08 01:41 PM

I would like you to see this. At least the first three. They are not long.

therealmccain,com
offtopic another post I touched on this, slanted and more. Ok, I was trying to be nice and answer some questions. That is off-topic and I'm done responding to it. Thanks, but no thanks tho, BBofftopic

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Tue 10/21/08 01:42 PM




You know its down right rude to post crap and not answer peoples questions..Is that a debate???Something you said you like to do!!

Okay, sorry, was getting to some others on here first.

No, don't have all the answers. No, am not paid to 'rally' on McCain's side (or either). Yes, I heard M say O was a fine man. No, didn't hear him comment on his 'right' to fake or lie, or evade the issue of O's b/certificate.

If U have a link U think I should see, pls do so. I do not think however, that many are looking at links that might prove them wrong about their man.....hummmm

Does that make sense? Anything else I missed?
Have a Good one, Betty

PS. Nope, do not post crap.
Do not reduce the discussion to name calling or personal attacks to 'friends' on here. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I just hope some of this brings to light another side, for a more Informed Choice.....no lies, I don't.
Yep, do copy - paste, and spell-check too. Smile, BB
Im sorry, there is a difference in biased opinions and lies. Im sorry you post biased sites...You forgot about Obama's medical records and mcCain's medical records..Also about family values and McCain's affair..Annenberg was another question..Sorry for the spelling sometimes don't spell check but hey I have a 9th grade education but consider myself knowledgeable about current affairs..I will find that link abot McCains comments..It was on Fox news so I will find it for you..


What is Anneberg?
It is a Communications group Funded by the William Annenberg Foundation..Annenberg school of the University of Penn. does a national survey every election. The collect data of your views on issues, your views of candidates, your knowledge of the political process and your choice for office. The info is shared with national news medias..Its is an unbiased survey or poll..I will find the main site for you..Its quite interesting..

no photo
Tue 10/21/08 01:49 PM

>>LOL..You just keep going. You question Obamas health but fail to answer McCain's..You say his records were release but to who and when..You bash him for family values when its well documented about McCains affair while being married..The law suits, well??? The BIG M Obama TAPE???? We are still waiting on all of the above. Answer a question honestly,

You know its down right rude to post crap and not answer peoples questions..Is that a debate???Something you said you like to do!!

Okay, sorry, was getting to some others on here first.

McCains Medical records were released, left link
here's another.
http://www.johnmccain.com/mccainrecords/

Military records, something were opened, some not. Private lives, -that's okay. He has passed tons of tests, and his history, altho not perfect, is better than many a man could do.

(Oh, U had mentioned it must be the smoking why I don't like O?? LAUGHING, one challenge he can't overcome, and M can DID overcome so many much larger hurdles!!) And his divorce, wasn't there, but read report from the first Mrs.M, she's okay with him. Don't recall bashing O for his family values, however did copy some interesting things about them.

No, don't have all the answers. No, am not paid to 'rally' on McCain's side (or either). Yes, I heard M say O was a fine man. No, didn't hear him comment on his 'right' to fake or lie, or evade the issue of O's b/certificate.

If U have a link U think I should see, pls do so. I do not think however, that many are looking at links that might prove them wrong about their man.....hummmm

Does that make sense? Anything else I missed?
Have a Good one, Betty

PS. Nope, do not post crap.
Do not reduce the discussion to name calling or personal attacks to 'friends' on here. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I just hope some of this brings to light another side, for a more Informed Choice.....no lies, I don't.
Yep, do copy - paste, and spell-check too. Smile,
and will need to get back to U on the tapes.. BB
I would like to see them released to a third party, as you would to..Military records are not private but can be classified..Still would like to see them..Hey because the 1st Mrs McCain is alight with it dosnt make it right..Hillary obviously forgave Bill but its still relevant to many and brought up daily by the right..

ohwidow's photo
Tue 10/21/08 02:02 PM

:smile: If one of your parents is an American then you are an American no matter where you are born.flowerforyou

If you are born here, you are an American, no matter what the nationality of your parents.

If you are born abroad, but at least one of your parents is an American, you'll be considered an American, too (there are some exceptions).

But that isn't what we are speaking of, but what is needed to enter into the presidental race.

Vote for McCain, Schwarzenegger says.
---copy--
The Republican governor said anyone who has been a U.S. citizen for at least 20 years -- as he has -- should "absolutely" be able to seek the presidency. A constitutional amendment proposed by Sen. Orrin Hatch, a Utah Republican, would make that possible. --end copy-- BUT NO, not now.

---copy---
how do you know if you are a Republican? Well, I tell you how. If you believe that government should be accountable to the people, not the people to the government, then you are a Republican.

If you believe a person should be treated as an individual, not as a member of an interest group, then you are a Republican.

If you believe your family knows how to spend your money better than the government does, then you are a Republican.

If you believe our educational system should be held accountable for the progress of our children, then you are a Republican.

If you believe this country, not the United Nations, is the best hope for democracy, then you are a Republican.

And, ladies and gentlemen, if you believe that we must be fierce and relentless and terminate terrorism, then you are a Republican.

Now, there's another way you can tell you're a Republican. You have faith in free enterprise, faith in the resourcefulness of the American people and faith in the U.S. economy. And to those critics who are so pessimistic about our economy, I say: Don't be economic girlie-men.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/31/gop.schwarzenegger.transcript/
--end copy--
later, BB


no photo
Tue 10/21/08 02:09 PM
Edited by Unknow on Tue 10/21/08 02:13 PM


:smile: If one of your parents is an American then you are an American no matter where you are born.flowerforyou

If you are born here, you are an American, no matter what the nationality of your parents.

If you are born abroad, but at least one of your parents is an American, you'll be considered an American, too (there are some exceptions).

But that isn't what we are speaking of, but what is needed to enter into the presidental race.

Vote for McCain, Schwarzenegger says.
---copy--
The Republican governor said anyone who has been a U.S. citizen for at least 20 years -- as he has -- should "absolutely" be able to seek the presidency. A constitutional amendment proposed by Sen. Orrin Hatch, a Utah Republican, would make that possible. --end copy-- BUT NO, not now.

---copy---
how do you know if you are a Republican? Well, I tell you how. If you believe that government should be accountable to the people, not the people to the government, then you are a Republican.

If you believe a person should be treated as an individual, not as a member of an interest group, then you are a Republican.

If you believe your family knows how to spend your money better than the government does, then you are a Republican.

If you believe our educational system should be held accountable for the progress of our children, then you are a Republican.

If you believe this country, not the United Nations, is the best hope for democracy, then you are a Republican.

And, ladies and gentlemen, if you believe that we must be fierce and relentless and terminate terrorism, then you are a Republican.

Now, there's another way you can tell you're a Republican. You have faith in free enterprise, faith in the resourcefulness of the American people and faith in the U.S. economy. And to those critics who are so pessimistic about our economy, I say: Don't be economic girlie-men.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/31/gop.schwarzenegger.transcript/
--end copy--
later, BB


I thought you said you were an independent..

ohwidow's photo
Tue 10/21/08 02:28 PM
Edited by ohwidow on Tue 10/21/08 02:29 PM
I am, none running (or rather, made it this far).

So, the republican way of thinking is far better.
As is the choice of men - women and the agendas they promote.

What kills me, is that J.Biden said he didn't think O had the experience to run as president, and that he "would be honored to run with McCain, I think the country would be better off."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDVUPqoowf8

Thanks for asking, BB

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