i know, he belongs to the united church of christ. i do my homework

you know this actually what a lot of people could have foreseen. once an african-american runs for president, tons and tons of people would be outraged and start picking at him and his character. oh he's a muslim- which leads to- oh he's a terrorist, he hates america, i want to see his birth certificate before i drop my prejudices. and whatever else has been thrown at him

Just so you know, it is not the best thing at all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Canada

==copy--Wait times
One of the major complaints about the Canadian health care system is waiting times, whether for a specialist, major elective surgery, such as hip replacement, or specialized treatments, such as radiation for breast cancer. Studies by the Commonwealth Fund found that 57% of Canadians reported waiting 4 weeks or more to see a specialist; 24% of Canadians waited 4 hours or more in the emergency room.[20]

A March 2, 2004 article in the Canadian Medical Association Journal stated, "Saskatchewan is under fire for having the longest waiting time in the country for a diagnostic MRI — a whopping 22 months." [3] Medical professional shortage
Canada's shortage of medical practitioners causes problems.

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In fact, wait times are terrible, and many opt to pay for their own doctor/hosp. visits so they can get GOOD or fast treatment. So, in essence, double paying - once thru the gov. and once again, out of their own pocket. (Else they would die waiting!)
Pls, let's stay on topic, BB

Some pretty good reading on the ones I read..But question how can you support McCain after reading that?

health care--- see
http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/19ba2f1c-c03f-4ac2-8cd5-5cf2edb527cf.htm

get the true facts, not lies (yes, half trueths are LIES!)---copy--Barack Obama And Joe Biden Have Consistently Lied To Americans About John McCain's Plan. Their claims have failed every fact-check - from CBS to the Washington Post. John McCain is not going to raise taxes on middle class families. Barack Obama and Joe Biden are the only ones in this race that plan to raise taxes. --snip--OBAMA FICTION
John McCain Will Tax Health Care Benefits For The First Time And Will Be the Largest Middle Class Tax Increase In History.

THE FACTS
This Obama charge is a blatant mischaracterization of the McCain Health Plan. It only focuses on the fact that the value of the employer provided insurance will now show up as additional income for the employees – what he fails to mention – is that John McCain’s generous refundable tax credit ($5,000 for families and $2,500 for individuals) will not only shield millions of families from a tax increase but will actually give them MORE dollars to invest in their health care needs.

The McCain Plan DOES NOT tax:

Premiums paid by families and individuals


Employers for providing health care coverage


Medical expenses like the cost of a procedure or medication


Insurance claims

Approach Supported By Obama’s Own Advisor: This is an approach supported by Barack Obama's own Senior Economic Advisor Jason Furman who wrote that "we could scrap the current deduction altogether and replace it with progressive tax credits that, together with other changes, would ensure that every American has affordable health insurance."

Better Than "Members of Congress": Under the McCain Plan, your employer can provide you with health insurance as good as a "Member of Congress" (approximately $12,000), and you would pay no more in taxes – regardless of your tax bracket. In fact, you would have additional money left over from the McCain tax credit to put in a health savings account.

---end c---get the full facts, visit website above.


Back on topic, it was mentioed M may not qualify to run as Pres as well.....see....


http://www.snopes.com/politics/mccain/citizen.asp

and snopes has updated their website about O's
b/certificte http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp


and McCains med records, summery

http://www.johnmccain.com/mccainrecords/

-----------update-------------breaking news------

http://obamacrimes.com/

lawsuit against Obama & DNC ---end c--

and another website w/details

http://www.americasright.com

pls visit site for full back-up and details, downloads. Thanks, BB

You lost me at the opening word of "Indubitably"...you obviously know how stupid us non-republicans are...

I bet you are taking us idiot non-republicans down like drunk rednecks on a dove hunt.

WOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! pass me a beer!

For the love of God!

Try to pretend like the people who may accidentally have differing view points may not be actually too retarded and I wont pass out padded helmets and diapers to every retard who voted for Dubya.

I hate having to dummy down for the friggin repulican and Democratic zealots on this site.

Perhaps I should just go find more open minded folks to talk to around here...Like the religion forums...you know...Christians and Moslems are way more open minded than the f%cking Republicans.

One more time...Im tired but will touch on one thing..Health care, we are paying for it now!!!!!!! Higher premiums, taxes and costs..We are paying for the uninsured already..If people had access to health care the end result would not be as bad as it is now. It is criminal for health care providers to charge 5 times as much for the uninsured and give big insurance companies big breaks..No wonder people lose everything over health care..ITS CRIMINAL!!!!! So I guess you decide do we keep on paying for the uninsured who have no access to preventive medicine or do we pay less later.. I hope you understand

I understand O's health care plan IS going to cost us MORE than McCains!

http://www.cnbc.com/id/27298310
The Big Tax Picture: Over $1 Trillion


AP
Barack Obama
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Tax Policy Center has calculated that the refundable tax credit and John McCain's overall health plan will increase the deficit by $1.3 trillion over the next ten years, while Barack Obama's plan providing subsidized access through an insurance exchange will boost the deficit by roughly $1.6 trillion in the next decade.

McCain’s plan, analysts say would cost less over time, because the tax credit would likely be indexed to inflation, while medical costs are likely to grow more quickly. --snip--
McCain's plan puts the combined savings at about $85 Billion, while Obama puts the savings at just over $90 billion, according to calculations from the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget.

But even with those calculations, the Committee puts the budget impact of McCain's policies starting off at a $17 billion deficit in the first year, while the Obama plan would start off $65 billion in the red.


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So, q answered, BB

Nope, I'm not visiting any more of your sites. That is all that this thread is about - visiting your blog links.

Nope, none of them mine, have nothing to do w/them.



But, pls keep ONE more open to visit, about O's birth/adoption --copy--

Michelle Obama tapes’ imminent release approaching: API in a serious negotiation with FOX NEWS on the best way forward

http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/15/shocking-development-mrs-obama-decides-enough-is-enough-my-husband-was-born-in-hawaii-and-adopted-by-his-step-father-does-that-make-him-unpatriotic-she-asks-on-a-direct-telephone-to-api/


Obama tapes: I am 100% positive this is real and it will be released to Fox news network and become public in short order.
Posted by africanpress on October 22, 2008

http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/10/22/obama-tapes-i-am-100-positive-this-is-real-and-it-will-be-released-to-fox-news-network-and-become-public-in-short-order/

I spoke with Mr. Korir as well. I convinced him to let me hear a snippet of the recording and from the little bit I did, I would say with 100% certainty that it is Michelle Obama’s voice. Please be patient. Mr Korir would not lie. He has been a colleague of mine for fifteen years. I would trust him with my life.

---humm, tomorrow or Thurs should tell much, BB

and snopes has updated their website about O's
b/certificte http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp

If U visited the site, U'd see first, they hired an atty, then they write open letter to Mrs. O. so she could state truth, so not all (ill-relevant)of it released. Then they waited (one week gone by from start, not all that long)few days, then they say, fox news was chosen to air this. Will be anxious to see this come to pass (rather than not) as too much cover-up about his 'right' to run as Pres. has happened. BB

BTW, do U work for O's camp? Straight forward details on health care show huge diff between debit - and coverage. O's is not the best by a long shot.

No, work for a utility company..Os covers the poor..That my friend is a big cause of the spirling cost..Like I said we already pay for it, might as well offset some of the costs..And as far as Canada waiting 4 hours in the ER, MANY people here could only hope that they only have to wait that long, and THATS THE INSURED!!!!