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Stuff like this is not what America needs right now. This Divisional BS, WHO CARES IF HES MUSLIM, WHO CARE WHERE HE WAS BORN... THESE ARENT EVEN NEAR THE REAL ISSUES THAT FACE US...THE AMERICAN PEOPLE...ALL OF US,NO MATTER RACE,NATIONALITY,RELGION,GENDER,SEXUAL ORIENTATION...YES ALL OF US AMERICANS... ITS TIME WE BUNKER DOWN AND GET TO THE REAL ISSUES AND BARACK IS BETTER SUITED TO DO THAT BETTER THAN A 72 YEAR OLD MAN WHO IS ALOT LIKE RUDY GUILIANI, ALL SEN McCAIN KNOWS TO SAY IS A NOUN, A VERB, AND HIS WAR SERVICE IN VIETNAM!! I care because it shows he lied. AND yes, I care, because he thinks that's okay. ---copy--Besides, FactCheck.org says it examined the Obama birth certificate and claims it is genuine. But FactCheck.org is owned by the Annenberg Foundation, which links to Bill Ayers, which links to Barack Obama, both of whom held seats on that board – which then calls FactCheck.org's objectivity into question. But surely Barack Obama wouldn't try to run for president knowing he wasn't qualified? Like I said, its a tin-foil-hat question. Still, why in the world would it be necessary for somebody to have to file a LAWSUIT to compel Obama to produce a birth certificate? What is the big deal about providing what millions of us provide on demand whenever the government asks for it? It's only a birth certificate. You should be proud of it. It says you are a natural-born citizen of the greatest country the world has ever known. --snip--All Obama has to do to make it all go away – especially this close to the election – is let the Hawaii registrar of birth records release one certified copy to be examined by a neutral party. That's all. But he won't. It's baffling. I mean, what can there be to hide? http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78258 -----end copy-- AND yes SIR!! I care if someone who is NOT an AMERICAN runs for President of the United States! And yes, who he hangs with shows his character and who cares if he's Muslim? That wouldn't matter, unless he LIED again, and really was. It is the lies, if you can't trust what he says, what good is he? AND where he is getting all his money (after he lied, and had said at the start he was going to use public funds like McCain)from?? He won't disclose alot of that too. Too many lies, hiding and questions. Period. BB If you don't like FactChecks look at what www.snopes.com says. They are unbiased and reputable. |
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>>Here we go again..Ok, I wanna see McCain's medical records and his military records..Any one can file a suit in any state..And Im sure there are several..Its been pr oven, McCain himself says it, and There are 22,000 videos on YouTube(guessing) about all the suits and propaganda surrounding it..PLZ>>> Good, here we go again (smile) Obama will not show his medical records - did U know that? Why should U ask for his opponents? AND at least we know McCain has served his county, but not Obama. -----copy--- Previously, McCain made his medical records available to select members of the press for only a few hours -- a time span during which electronic devices were prohibited and copies could not be made.---end copy--- Obama has not even done that. (Maybe he is hiding something??)So far not one document from his records has been made available, only a one page letter from a doctor. Obviously, that is not acceptable. And no military service, no experiance, no birth certificate,no, no, no...BB It doesn't matter if one does not have military service.  He has experience in the Senate. I like his community service experience. He does have a birth certificate and has shown it. |
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The OP is more hatemongering garbage meant to mislead. Everyone knows that his citizenship is not an issue. Everyone knows he is a Christian. Everyone knows he is not a terrorist. Everyone knows he is not participating in voter fraud. Everyone knows he is not white and that is the problem for ALL OF THIS GARBAGE! Show me where I said he wasn't a Christian? AND I didn't say any of the things U said I did. Except his Citizenship IS an issue. Show me, details please, where did U get yours? Don't put words in my mouth or slam me for untruths. I don't hate anyone. I don 't reduce facts to calling people names, or bring it down to a personal level like U did. (U're on a dating site, how's that working for U, attacking people?) I see Obama's ethics are sorely lacking too. The LAW applies to everyone, he needs to comply. period. Not lie...... Pls see this site. http://www.johnmccain.com/palintruthfiles/ Peace, BB All of the garbage about Obama's citizenship and his lies etc... are mostly racially based attacks on him. Maybe you don't realize that or maybe you cannot see that but it is. Racists never come right out and say they hate the bleep because he is whatever. They go around the issue. They bring up this reason to fear him, that reason to question his credibility. Have you seen one media station bring up McCain's associations with terrorists? He has them.How about the fact that McCain was not born in the US? He wasn't. That is why you should question this form of attack. |
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Just because Mc2old spent time in the Vietnamese hilton doesnt make him qualified and it doesnt add to his qualifications, that war was an illegal and unjust war and served this country NO GOOD.
Baracks time in the private sector has changed more lives and bettered this country in a fashion 10 fold to Sen McCains POW days. I dont care about trivial BS, We need to open our eyes and look at the real issues. FREEDOM AND LIBERTIES for EVERYONE. TOLLERANCE FOR DIFFERENCES AND SOMEONE WHO WILL END THIS OCCUPATION OF A SOVERIGN NATION, WE CALL THE WAR IN IRAQ. Straighten out this FLOUNDERING ECCONOMY AND END THIS DIVISION BETWEEN THIS COUNTRIES OWN PEOPLE. PERIOD |
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ohwidow
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Sun 10/19/08 09:40 PM
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Come on, are you kidding me? I am not to disagree with someone's agenda just because it is not good for me to do so? Oh, I have to be >>>called a racist to disagree, I see. (NOT!)
Man, you are short of an idea that makes any sense, period. Thanks, we will just agree to disagree okay? Peace, BB Edited to add: Yes, we know McCain was born with a U.S. birth Certificate, no sweat, checked out fine. No hidden documentation there. pal. Who is trying to make anyone FEAR someone?? Putting out trash like that when I haven't done any such thing. Please, post response able! |
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Just because Mc2old spent time in the Vietnamese hilton doesnt make him qualified and it doesnt add to his qualifications, that war was an illegal and unjust war and served this country NO GOOD. Baracks time in the private sector has changed more lives and bettered this country in a fashion 10 fold to Sen McCains POW days. I dont care about trivial BS, We need to open our eyes and look at the real issues. FREEDOM AND LIBERTIES for EVERYONE. TOLLERANCE FOR DIFFERENCES AND SOMEONE WHO WILL END THIS OCCUPATION OF A SOVERIGN NATION, WE CALL THE WAR IN IRAQ. Straighten out this FLOUNDERING ECCONOMY AND END THIS DIVISION BETWEEN THIS COUNTRIES OWN PEOPLE. PERIOD  and bring us some much needed respect across the world which Bush has stripped from all of us.
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McCain’s Canal Zone Birth Prompts Queries About Whether That Rules Him Out
Mr. McCain’s likely nomination as the Republican candidate for president and the happenstance of his birth in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936 are reviving a musty debate that has surfaced periodically since the founders first set quill to parchment and declared that only a “natural-born citizen” can hold the nation’s highest office. Almost since those words were written in 1787 with scant explanation, their precise meaning has been the stuff of confusion, law school review articles, whisper campaigns and civics class debates over whether only those delivered on American soil can be truly natural born. To date, no American to take the presidential oath has had an official birthplace outside the 50 states. “There are powerful arguments that Senator McCain or anyone else in this position is constitutionally qualified, but there is certainly no precedent,” said Sarah H. Duggin, an associate professor of law at Catholic University who has studied the issue extensively. “It is not a slam-dunk situation.” http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us/politics/28mccain.html?_r=1&oref=slogin |
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Summary
In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake." We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said. Analysis Since we first wrote about Obama's birth certificate on June 16, speculation on his citizenship has continued apace. Some claim that Obama posted a fake birth certificate to his Web page. That charge leaped from the blogosphere to the mainstream media earlier this week when Jerome Corsi, author of a book attacking Obama, repeated the claim in an Aug. 15 interview with Steve Doocy on Fox News. This is from Newsweek |
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ohwidow
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Just because Mc2old spent time in the Vietnamese hilton doesnt make him qualified and it doesnt add to his qualifications, that war was an illegal and unjust war and served this country NO GOOD. Baracks time in the private sector has changed more lives and bettered this country in a fashion 10 fold to Sen McCains POW days. I dont care about trivial BS, We need to open our eyes and look at the real issues. FREEDOM AND LIBERTIES for EVERYONE. TOLLERANCE FOR DIFFERENCES AND SOMEONE WHO WILL END THIS OCCUPATION OF A SOVERIGN NATION, WE CALL THE WAR IN IRAQ. Straighten out this FLOUNDERING ECCONOMY AND END THIS DIVISION BETWEEN THIS COUNTRIES OWN PEOPLE. PERIOD Seeing this is a good start to opening ur eyes about how the economy got this way...and how Barack changed lives.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bLFPjLaXPM And about that no-show medical records...... WHAT IS OBAMA HIDING? Is he still snorting coke? Can he pass a urine test? Does he have AIDS? Does he have lung cancer? (although his doctor gave Obama a clean bill of health (a one-page letter PDF), noting that he has struggled to quit smoking but uses Nicorette gum "with success")Inquiring minds want to know. I know, they slam McCain for being older, (BTW< Google vid of his mom - see nice lady of 95, speaking in interview on her son's behalf. Smart lady!) and that he's a survivor of *SKIN cancer - but he had shown his medical records, why won't OBMA? Note from his doc isn't good enough! *Stage II melanoma Stage II melanoma for which McCain underwent extensive surgery in August 2000. As for McCain’s medications: “The campaign also said Mr. McCain regularly took Vytorin to lower his cholesterol, a baby aspirin to help prevent heart attacks, a multivitamin and, occasionally, Claritin or Flonase for allergies.” Nothing heard from O on his medical records, ETC! BUT,U speak of O bettering his county too. Humm, last I read His district is a complete disaster...terrible schools, record crime, spiraling poverty. He wants to take that success and spread it around? Peace, BB |
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McCain’s Canal Zone Birth Prompts Queries About Whether That Rules Him Out Mr. McCain’s likely nomination as the Republican candidate for president and the happenstance of his birth in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936 are reviving a musty debate that has surfaced periodically since the founders first set quill to parchment and declared that only a “natural-born citizen” can hold the nation’s highest office. Almost since those words were written in 1787 with scant explanation, their precise meaning has been the stuff of confusion, law school review articles, whisper campaigns and civics class debates over whether only those delivered on American soil can be truly natural born. To date, no American to take the presidential oath has had an official birthplace outside the 50 states. “There are powerful arguments that Senator McCain or anyone else in this position is constitutionally qualified, but there is certainly no precedent,” said Sarah H. Duggin, an associate professor of law at Catholic University who has studied the issue extensively. “It is not a slam-dunk situation.” http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us/politics/28mccain.html?_r=1&oref=slogin Would NOT that be the kicks!! Throw them both out and let R. Paul run as an Independent!! Ha! BB |
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Summary In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake." We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said. Analysis Since we first wrote about Obama's birth certificate on June 16, speculation on his citizenship has continued apace. Some claim that Obama posted a fake birth certificate to his Web page. That charge leaped from the blogosphere to the mainstream media earlier this week when Jerome Corsi, author of a book attacking Obama, repeated the claim in an Aug. 15 interview with Steve Doocy on Fox News. This is from Newsweek What about his schooling in Indonesia? That is a vaible argument i thought. (Honestly i do believe the man was BORN here, but that does not mean he is a natural citizen.) Also, factcheck.org was the company Obama worked for right? |
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I will NOT vote for a so called man with questionable backkground who got where he is because of funding by crooked people who changes what he says at almost every venue & who did NOT talk to a single one of our troops that defend our freedom when he went over seas. And thats just a few of many valid reasons i will never give obama or osama my vote. If by some sick joke he gets in office im buying KYjelly & handing it out to everyone that voted for him because we will all bbe royally screwed& itll hurt bad.
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Take a look at the link between this mortgage crisis and Sen Phill Gramm, Take a look at the spike in oil prices and VP D*ick Cheney, Hmmm both Repubs.
This government is nothing but a mindless jugernaut that is raping its people by taxing the middle man to death while lining there own pockets and stepping on our CIVAL RIGHTS, its spends billions and billions on an occupation of a soverign nation meanwhile our own Economy faulters! There idea to poison our own thoughts so we will argue over "Is barrak a citizen"? "Is he a Muslim?" Is nothing but plow to get us to bicker between ourselves so the can smirk all the WAY TO THE BANK. I repeat WHO CARES IF HES MUSLIM! I repeat WHO CARES If he was born not in this Country!! (Its a no brainer, he was born in Hawaii) This country has been the laughing stock of the rest of the WORLD FOR THE LAST 8 YEARS, THAT WITHIN ITSELF IS A HUGE ISSUE THAT IS WAY MORE IMPORTANT THAN MOST |
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Great, lets just say they are both disqualified.
So lets run Paul/Ventura against Hillary/Edwards. Have fun with that! |
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Who is trying to make anyone FEAR someone?? People like you who don't debate the issues, but instead focus on bull$hit smears and fear mongering like Ayers, Rev. Wright and the question of Obama's birthplace. It's all backfiring on the Limbaugh's, Hannity's and Coulter's of the world, so you're in bad company. |
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I will NOT vote for a so called man with questionable backkground who got where he is because of funding by crooked people who changes what he says at almost every venue & who did NOT talk to a single one of our troops that defend our freedom when he went over seas. And thats just a few of many valid reasons i will never give obama or osama my vote. If by some sick joke he gets in office im buying KYjelly & handing it out to everyone that voted for him because we will all bbe royally screwed& itll hurt bad. Two words - Keating 5. |
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Edited by
dewdrew
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http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate?source=source=sem-pm-fts-bc-search-us&gclid=CI-eqKLktZYCFQOcFQodXWyeKw
IS IT A FAKE? IM NOT VOTING FOR HIM BUT THIS SHOWS HIS bc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXNLLAk9gek&NR=1 iS HE A KENYA CITIZEN? 1. this is the copy presented by Obama's staff, after long delay and many requests. 2. It does not bear a certificate number. In fact it is mysteriously blacked out. Why? Normally these things are produced in numeric sequence. This "black out" could hide the actual date issued. I see know reason why the State of Hawaii would keep this a secret. Your comparison copy bears a certificate number. Maybe known by an Obama staffer? 3. There is no embossed State seal showing, as there is on your comparison copy. 4. There is no signature from reverse showing , as there is on your comparison 5. The print type and paper color is different than your comparison copy. 6. Neither your Obama copy of a birth certificate, nor the one you produce as a comparison copy of someone else, are original birth certificates. These are the productions used to certify birth, when you ask the State for proof of birth, except the Obama copy has the major discrepancies listed above. Please look in the lower left hand corner and you will see the date of the form as "(rev. 11/01) Laser". there were no Laser printers in 1961. Hence these are not originals, even if Obama's is real. The lawsuit in question (Berg v. Obama, No.08-cv-04083), requests Obama produce the "certified copy of his �Vault� [original long version] Birth Certificate from Hawaii". Meanwhile Obama's attorney obstructs The American people from finding the truth by filing a Motion for Protective Order to stay discovery, & prevent the State of Hawaii from giving information out. Further this case if allowed to proceed will produce witnesses to Obama's Kenyan relatives who brag that Obama was born in Kenya. The story here, is that Obama's mother was in Kenya seeking reconciliation with her estranged husband. Before giving birth she wasn't allowed to board a plane to the USA because of her advanced pregnancy. She gave birth to Obama in Kenya, then took a plane to Hawaii and registered Obama as born in Hawaii. However, there are documents claiming Obama was born in two different hospitals. ARE EITHER 1 OF THESE BC PICS REAL?? http://www.politifact.com/media/img/graphics/birthCertObama.jpg http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg |
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give it a break
find something new find something real find something truthful |
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I really could give 2 squirts of $h!t if Obama was a cross dressing muzlum jew that was born in Iran with ties to hitler at this point.. he'd still be a better candidate that McCain.
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Edited by
Unknow
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Mon 10/20/08 06:59 AM
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Just because Mc2old spent time in the Vietnamese hilton doesnt make him qualified and it doesnt add to his qualifications, that war was an illegal and unjust war and served this country NO GOOD. Baracks time in the private sector has changed more lives and bettered this country in a fashion 10 fold to Sen McCains POW days. I dont care about trivial BS, We need to open our eyes and look at the real issues. FREEDOM AND LIBERTIES for EVERYONE. TOLLERANCE FOR DIFFERENCES AND SOMEONE WHO WILL END THIS OCCUPATION OF A SOVERIGN NATION, WE CALL THE WAR IN IRAQ. Straighten out this FLOUNDERING ECCONOMY AND END THIS DIVISION BETWEEN THIS COUNTRIES OWN PEOPLE. PERIOD Seeing this is a good start to opening ur eyes about how the economy got this way...and how Barack changed lives.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bLFPjLaXPM And about that no-show medical records...... WHAT IS OBAMA HIDING? Is he still snorting coke? Can he pass a urine test? Does he have AIDS? Does he have lung cancer? (although his doctor gave Obama a clean bill of health (a one-page letter PDF), noting that he has struggled to quit smoking but uses Nicorette gum "with success")Inquiring minds want to know. I know, they slam McCain for being older, (BTW< Google vid of his mom - see nice lady of 95, speaking in interview on her son's behalf. Smart lady!) and that he's a survivor of *SKIN cancer - but he had shown his medical records, why won't OBMA? Note from his doc isn't good enough! *Stage II melanoma Stage II melanoma for which McCain underwent extensive surgery in August 2000. As for McCain’s medications: “The campaign also said Mr. McCain regularly took Vytorin to lower his cholesterol, a baby aspirin to help prevent heart attacks, a multivitamin and, occasionally, Claritin or Flonase for allergies.” Nothing heard from O on his medical records, ETC! BUT,U speak of O bettering his county too. Humm, last I read His district is a complete disaster...terrible schools, record crime, spiraling poverty. He wants to take that success and spread it around? Peace, BB |
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