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This is just another republican tactic to stop the right man from getting in office...They are scared and are pulling stuff out their ASSES to come up with ANYTHING to stop him... Please America come up with something better than this. They are grasping at straws because they are so worried that a black man may become the president. It doesn't even matter if he is the best man for the job. Not about race, it's about trying to keep the wrong guy out. But i really don't agree with the pulling of straws to do so. Look past the crap, and look at policies. Look and affiliations with organizations. Hell his message of "change" alone shows you that he is manipulative. Policies and political message to do not coincide. Honestly the best thing for the people of the United States to do, is vote third party. If everyone would do so, maybe we might get a guy in there that has OUR best interests at heart. We honestly need someone like Dr. Paul in office. He knows what needs to be done. I honestly believe that there is not way for Paul to win. Nader can't win either. Nader took votes away from the Dems. last time and Bush won. I would hate for something like that to happen like that at such a critical time. This system of lesser evil will continue until we start going a different route. If everyone voted Nader, he MIGHT win. He is on the ballot in 45 different states at least. If he won in 45 states, the electoral college would have to completely disreguard our demand in order to put someone else in office. That is reason to file for grievences. And patition to remove the current candidate and put the popular one in place. If that doesn't work get ready for a revolution... And about Nader taking from dems... he took a bunch from republicans too ya know. But that doesnt matter either. The RIGHT thing to do is not play the game the coporate elite wants us to play... The game is an illusion. |
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Not about race, it's about trying to keep the wrong guy out. But i really don't agree with the pulling of straws to do so. Look past the crap, and look at policies. Look and affiliations with organizations. Hell his message of "change" alone shows you that he is manipulative. Policies and political message to do not coincide. Honestly the best thing for the people of the United States to do, is vote third party. If everyone would do so, maybe we might get a guy in there that has OUR best interests at heart. We honestly need someone like Dr. Paul in office. He knows what needs to be done. I agree with you 100% The worst of 2 evils is what we are left with. One may not be perfect, but the better 'agenda' for the US. The other, well,, this thread is about him mostly posted by me so U'd know where I stand. But, don't call either of them worthless http://www.leaveitbehind.com/2008/09/dont-call-them.html Ron Paul would've had my vote - BB |
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Okay so lets talk about McCain's association with terrorists too. He has a long association with at least one white supremacist, he has a relationship with Liddy, he has associations with abortion clinic terrorists. Let's talk about McCain's association with Acorn. Let's talk about McCain's record of voting against his fellow brothers the vets. Let's talk about McCain's views on tax cuts for the wealthy which he has agreed with. Let's talk about McCain's stance on war, which is not good for the American people. I could go on and on. McCain is not a better candidate than Obama at any level. Obama's stance on war is just as bad as McCain's!! If Obama follows through with his plans he will Tax everyone at least as much. Dont make me bring up Obamas voting record... |
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This is just another republican tactic to stop the right man from getting in office...They are scared and are pulling stuff out their ASSES to come up with ANYTHING to stop him... Please America come up with something better than this. They are grasping at straws because they are so worried that a black man may become the president. It doesn't even matter if he is the best man for the job. Not about race, it's about trying to keep the wrong guy out. But i really don't agree with the pulling of straws to do so. Look past the crap, and look at policies. Look and affiliations with organizations. Hell his message of "change" alone shows you that he is manipulative. Policies and political message to do not coincide. Honestly the best thing for the people of the United States to do, is vote third party. If everyone would do so, maybe we might get a guy in there that has OUR best interests at heart. We honestly need someone like Dr. Paul in office. He knows what needs to be done. It's not going to happen at this late date!! |
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This is just another republican tactic to stop the right man from getting in office...They are scared and are pulling stuff out their ASSES to come up with ANYTHING to stop him... Please America come up with something better than this. They are grasping at straws because they are so worried that a black man may become the president. It doesn't even matter if he is the best man for the job. Not about race, it's about trying to keep the wrong guy out. But i really don't agree with the pulling of straws to do so. Look past the crap, and look at policies. Look and affiliations with organizations. Hell his message of "change" alone shows you that he is manipulative. Policies and political message to do not coincide. Honestly the best thing for the people of the United States to do, is vote third party. If everyone would do so, maybe we might get a guy in there that has OUR best interests at heart. We honestly need someone like Dr. Paul in office. He knows what needs to be done. I honestly believe that there is not way for Paul to win. Nader can't win either. Nader took votes away from the Dems. last time and Bush won. I would hate for something like that to happen like that at such a critical time. This system of lesser evil will continue until we start going a different route. If everyone voted Nader, he MIGHT win. He is on the ballot in 45 different states at least. If he won in 45 states, the electoral college would have to completely disreguard our demand in order to put someone else in office. That is reason to file for grievences. And patition to remove the current candidate and put the popular one in place. If that doesn't work get ready for a revolution... And about Nader taking from dems... he took a bunch from republicans too ya know. But that doesnt matter either. The RIGHT thing to do is not play the game the coporate elite wants us to play... The game is an illusion. There is no way on earth that Nader is going to win. "If everyone voted Nader"....do you really believe that it is even something that could conceivably happen? |
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Did anyone see the video what happened to some muslim republicans that went to a McCain rally?Look at how they were treated.I guess the Republicans dont want minority voters.I cant support that or the horrible things I have been hearing the republicans say about black,gay,arab,and muslim Americans.I certainly dont want to be associated with people who act that way.
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Did anyone see the video what happened to some muslim republicans that went to a McCain rally?Look at how they were treated.I guess the Republicans dont want minority voters.I cant support that or the horrible things I have been hearing the republicans say about black,gay,arab,and muslim Americans.I certainly dont want to be associated with people who act that way. Mirror, I found out tonite that my ex's brother-in-law, an upper class pharmacist, is soo disgusted with Palin and McCain that for the first time ever, he is voting Democrat. My very, very religious cousin is disgusted by Palin and McCain and for the first time is not voting Republican too. The same can be said for her husband. But..they chose not to vote because of that. |
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Did anyone see the video what happened to some muslim republicans that went to a McCain rally?Look at how they were treated.I guess the Republicans dont want minority voters.I cant support that or the horrible things I have been hearing the republicans say about black,gay,arab,and muslim Americans.I certainly dont want to be associated with people who act that way. Mirror, I found out tonite that my ex's brother, an upper class pharmacist, is soo disgusted with Palin and McCain that for the first time ever, he is voting Democrat. My very, very religious cousin is disgusted by Palin and McCain and for the first time is not voting Republican too. The same can be said for her husband. But..they chose not to vote because of that. I am hearing more and more of that myself. Republicans who are refusing to vote because of the misjudgement of McCain and his running mate. |
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When are U speaking of? The 'rumors' were proven wrong.
In November I will vote for John McCain for many reasons not feelings. I support his views on taxes, his spending freeze, his expansion of Nuclear energy and his commitment to a strong national defense. And because I believe he has already proven he has the leadership to govern across both parties. If McCain were to somehow win, it makes me sick that some would claim it was because of racism. Many on the left claim that the last two elections were literally stolen from them. Now we hear Republicans starting to claim Obama and Acorn may be "stealing" the election. When the other side wins, I wish we could congratulate them in victory and accept that the people have spoken. So we will, we all need a fair race. AND the republicans are not getting it. O is outspending M 2 to 1 or more on ads, and his lies can't all be stomped out by McCain, as he is working w/limited funds, period. BB edited to add: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/10/08/james-carville-hints-riots-if-obama-loses In last night's post-debate analysis on CNN's Anderson Cooper 360, James Carville proclaimed that Barack Obama will be the slam dunk winner of the election in November. However, he followed up by hinting at riots if Obama were to lose. Here is the transcript of the discussion. (where's that love U spoke of? Dem's would not riot if they lost, period) |
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My Dad said something wise to me. He said that Obama would be farther ahead in the polls if he wasn't black. But..the fact that he is ahead in the polls, tells a lot about him.
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Did anyone see the video what happened to some muslim republicans that went to a McCain rally?Look at how they were treated.I guess the Republicans dont want minority voters.I cant support that or the horrible things I have been hearing the republicans say about black,gay,arab,and muslim Americans.I certainly dont want to be associated with people who act that way. Mirror, I found out tonite that my ex's brother-in-law, an upper class pharmacist, is soo disgusted with Palin and McCain that for the first time ever, he is voting Democrat. My very, very religious cousin is disgusted by Palin and McCain and for the first time is not voting Republican too. The same can be said for her husband. But..they chose not to vote because of that. |
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When are U speaking of? The 'rumors' were proven wrong. In November I will vote for John McCain for many reasons not feelings. I support his views on taxes, his spending freeze, his expansion of Nuclear energy and his commitment to a strong national defense. And because I believe he has already proven he has the leadership to govern across both parties. If McCain were to somehow win, it makes me sick that some would claim it was because of racism. Many on the left claim that the last two elections were literally stolen from them. Now we hear Republicans starting to claim Obama and Acorn may be "stealing" the election. When the other side wins, I wish we could congratulate them in victory and accept that the people have spoken. So we will, we all need a fair race. AND the republicans are not getting it. O is outspending M 2 to 1 or more on ads, and his lies can't all be stomped out by McCain, as he is working w/limited funds, period. BB edited to add: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/10/08/james-carville-hints-riots-if-obama-loses In last night's post-debate analysis on CNN's Anderson Cooper 360, James Carville proclaimed that Barack Obama will be the slam dunk winner of the election in November. However, he followed up by hinting at riots if Obama were to lose. Here is the transcript of the discussion. (where's that love U spoke of? Dem's would not riot if they lost, period) |
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When are U speaking of? The 'rumors' were proven wrong. In November I will vote for John McCain for many reasons not feelings. I support his views on taxes, his spending freeze, his expansion of Nuclear energy and his commitment to a strong national defense. And because I believe he has already proven he has the leadership to govern across both parties. If McCain were to somehow win, it makes me sick that some would claim it was because of racism. Many on the left claim that the last two elections were literally stolen from them. Now we hear Republicans starting to claim Obama and Acorn may be "stealing" the election. When the other side wins, I wish we could congratulate them in victory and accept that the people have spoken. So we will, we all need a fair race. AND the republicans are not getting it. O is outspending M 2 to 1 or more on ads, and his lies can't all be stomped out by McCain, as he is working w/limited funds, period. BB edited to add: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/10/08/james-carville-hints-riots-if-obama-loses In last night's post-debate analysis on CNN's Anderson Cooper 360, James Carville proclaimed that Barack Obama will be the slam dunk winner of the election in November. However, he followed up by hinting at riots if Obama were to lose. Here is the transcript of the discussion. (where's that love U spoke of? Dem's would not riot if they lost, period) |
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When are U speaking of? The 'rumors' were proven wrong. In November I will vote for John McCain for many reasons not feelings. I support his views on taxes, his spending freeze, his expansion of Nuclear energy and his commitment to a strong national defense. And because I believe he has already proven he has the leadership to govern across both parties. If McCain were to somehow win, it makes me sick that some would claim it was because of racism. Many on the left claim that the last two elections were literally stolen from them. Now we hear Republicans starting to claim Obama and Acorn may be "stealing" the election. When the other side wins, I wish we could congratulate them in victory and accept that the people have spoken. So we will, we all need a fair race. AND the republicans are not getting it. O is outspending M 2 to 1 or more on ads, and his lies can't all be stomped out by McCain, as he is working w/limited funds, period. BB edited to add: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/10/08/james-carville-hints-riots-if-obama-loses In last night's post-debate analysis on CNN's Anderson Cooper 360, James Carville proclaimed that Barack Obama will be the slam dunk winner of the election in November. However, he followed up by hinting at riots if Obama were to lose. Here is the transcript of the discussion. (where's that love U spoke of? Dem's would not riot if they lost, period) It will be. My ex's sister said that her boss told her that she could never vote for a black man. |
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When are U speaking of? The 'rumors' were proven wrong. In November I will vote for John McCain for many reasons not feelings. I support his views on taxes, his spending freeze, his expansion of Nuclear energy and his commitment to a strong national defense. And because I believe he has already proven he has the leadership to govern across both parties. If McCain were to somehow win, it makes me sick that some would claim it was because of racism. Many on the left claim that the last two elections were literally stolen from them. Now we hear Republicans starting to claim Obama and Acorn may be "stealing" the election. When the other side wins, I wish we could congratulate them in victory and accept that the people have spoken. So we will, we all need a fair race. AND the republicans are not getting it. O is outspending M 2 to 1 or more on ads, and his lies can't all be stomped out by McCain, as he is working w/limited funds, period. BB edited to add: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/10/08/james-carville-hints-riots-if-obama-loses In last night's post-debate analysis on CNN's Anderson Cooper 360, James Carville proclaimed that Barack Obama will be the slam dunk winner of the election in November. However, he followed up by hinting at riots if Obama were to lose. Here is the transcript of the discussion. (where's that love U spoke of? Dem's would not riot if they lost, period) |
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What about all the terrible things the republicans are saying about arabs,muslims,gays, and in some cases black Americans?Do you deny this?I dont know what planet a person would have to be hiding on not to know about the stuff that has been said all year by the republicans.
Come on, I have NOT seen anything worse coming from the left or right party - alot of low blows. What I HAVE seen is people insulting people based upon their views of who they wish to vote for, period.
There is a lot of stuff to sift thru on just the details alone in the elections. Here we have people calling people hateful names, based upon their choice. Shame, that is NOT patriotism! AND u know what?? We know the media spins in favor of O, so I don't believe much of what they write. I googled "whose campaign is more negative Obama or mccain?" and top of the list,, --copy--Interestingly, despite the meme of liberal commentary that McCain is running a scandalously negative campaign, the Obama campaign is running more negative ads than the McCain campaign. http://www.usnews.com/blogs/barone/2008/9/19/obamas-campaign-is-more-negative-than-mccains.html?s_cid=rss:barone:obamas-campaign-is-more-negative-than-mccains |
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What about all the terrible things the republicans are saying about arabs,muslims,gays, and in some cases black Americans?Do you deny this?I dont know what planet a person would have to be hiding on not to know about the stuff that has been said all year by the republicans.
Come on, I have NOT seen anything worse coming from the left or right party - alot of low blows. What I HAVE seen is people insulting people based upon their views of who they wish to vote for, period.
There is a lot of stuff to sift thru on just the details alone in the elections. Here we have people calling people hateful names, based upon their choice. Shame, that is NOT patriotism! AND u know what?? We know the media spins in favor of O, so I don't believe much of what they write. I googled "whose campaign is more negative Obama or mccain?" and top of the list,, --copy--Interestingly, despite the meme of liberal commentary that McCain is running a scandalously negative campaign, the Obama campaign is running more negative ads than the McCain campaign. http://www.usnews.com/blogs/barone/2008/9/19/obamas-campaign-is-more-negative-than-mccains.html?s_cid=rss:barone:obamas-campaign-is-more-negative-than-mccains I've read the opposite. I've read that McCain's ads are more negative. Obama just has more ads. I think that the media is spinning just fine with McCain. They are leaving his negative history out of the picture. And the crap they are saying on Fox News. Yikes!!! People need to put on some high boots to watch that show. |
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What about all the terrible things the republicans are saying about arabs,muslims,gays, and in some cases black Americans?Do you deny this?I dont know what planet a person would have to be hiding on not to know about the stuff that has been said all year by the republicans.
Come on, I have NOT seen anything worse coming from the left or right party - alot of low blows. What I HAVE seen is people insulting people based upon their views of who they wish to vote for, period.
There is a lot of stuff to sift thru on just the details alone in the elections. Here we have people calling people hateful names, based upon their choice. Shame, that is NOT patriotism! AND u know what?? We know the media spins in favor of O, so I don't believe much of what they write. I googled "whose campaign is more negative Obama or mccain?" and top of the list,, --copy--Interestingly, despite the meme of liberal commentary that McCain is running a scandalously negative campaign, the Obama campaign is running more negative ads than the McCain campaign. http://www.usnews.com/blogs/barone/2008/9/19/obamas-campaign-is-more-negative-than-mccains.html?s_cid=rss:barone:obamas-campaign-is-more-negative-than-mccains |
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Aside from the religion questions here,(ignore the slant) this would be a good research report. Suffer thru the 1st 5 min, and then it gets interesting.
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ will answer you about politics.(Hey, pls don't act like I said anyone was uneducated!!) T, about McCain, from his Bio---copy--- McCain's management skills have yet to be publicized. After he came back from his 5 1/2 years as a POW, McCain took command of the Navy's largest squadron, a force of A-7 attack aircraft. It was the largest by a lot. Most such squadrons in those days numbered 12 to 25. McCain's numbered 75, putting him in charge of a budget of more than a billion dollars. This was during the post-Vietnam years, when Washington was cutting back on the military budget, and the McCain squadron was short on parts, maintenance crews, and even fuel. Some 25 of his aircraft were permanently disabled "hangar queens." Morale was low. In what John Lehman, secretary of the Navy in the Reagan administration, has called "a near miracle of leadership and management," McCain restored morale and got all 75 A-7s up and running. Fellow officers did not think it was possible, which brings us to the question of character. After leaving Hanoi, McCain never was expected to fly again, such was the condition of his poorly treated injuries. The injuries included two broken arms, a broken leg, a broken shoulder, and the consequences of stab wounds to the groin and ankle. Navy doctors told him he never would achieve "flight status" again. In a show of exemplary fortitude, the young pilot undertook grueling physical therapy. He not only flew again but also took command of his squadron and rebuilt it. Then he became Navy liaison to the Senate, where, by working with hawkish Republicans and Democrats, he helped reverse the decline of the military and lay the foundation for the Reagan military buildup that bankrupted the USSR. In McCain's biography, we see leadership, managerial skills, an ability to work with senators on both sides of the aisle, and a vigilance about national security that we do not see in his opponent. McCain will not need the cheap tricks of a presidential campaign to win on Election Day. His biography will be sufficient. ---heck of a man on his service, and note, he helped reverse the decline of the military, among other things. Nite, BB PS. and his wife?---copy---The McCain campaign released Cindy McCain's tax returns late Friday afternoon, and the numbers might make Joe the Plumber blush. The beer-company executive reported income last year of nearly $4.2 million, and more than $6 million in 2006. The Arizona heiress with seven homes has traveled the globe for years doing humanitarian work, mostly aiding children and quietly donating plenty of money from a fortune estimated at $100 million. She may be the wife of a senator and presidential candidate, but from the time John McCain was elected to Congress in 1982, she has preferred to keep out of the political limelight. Spending time with kids -- her four and the countless others with whom she has connected in orphanages and medical facilities -- is how she feels most at ease. ---The Miami Herald She has waded through minefields in Cambodia. Slept out in the bush in tents in Angola. Comforted children under the broiling sun in Morocco. But the 53-year-old's extensive charity work has been largely overlooked. Instead, the focus has tended to be on her privileged upbringing as the heiress of a successful Phoenix beer distribution business and her highly publicized addiction to painkillers in the early 1990s. But friends and others who have traveled with her on mission trips say her commitment to humanitarian work is one of her most defining characteristics. They also expect that to become a major part of her work as first lady, should John McCain win in November. "The thing that differentiates Cindy and why I think she will make an excellent first lady is that she has this true connection with the underserved," said Vonnie Wray, the development director at Operation Smile who has accompanied Cindy on missions to Morocco, India and Vietnam. ---The Arizona Republic (she is Proud to be an American and gives freely) |
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Aside from the religion questions here,(ignore the slant) this would be a good research report. Suffer thru the 1st 5 min, and then it gets interesting. http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ will answer you about politics. T, about McCain, from his Bio---copy--- McCain's management skills have yet to be publicized. After he came back from his 5 1/2 years as a POW, McCain took command of the Navy's largest squadron, a force of A-7 attack aircraft. It was the largest by a lot. Most such squadrons in those days numbered 12 to 25. McCain's numbered 75, putting him in charge of a budget of more than a billion dollars. This was during the post-Vietnam years, when Washington was cutting back on the military budget, and the McCain squadron was short on parts, maintenance crews, and even fuel. Some 25 of his aircraft were permanently disabled "hangar queens." Morale was low. In what John Lehman, secretary of the Navy in the Reagan administration, has called "a near miracle of leadership and management," McCain restored morale and got all 75 A-7s up and running. Fellow officers did not think it was possible, which brings us to the question of character. After leaving Hanoi, McCain never was expected to fly again, such was the condition of his poorly treated injuries. The injuries included two broken arms, a broken leg, a broken shoulder, and the consequences of stab wounds to the groin and ankle. Navy doctors told him he never would achieve "flight status" again. In a show of exemplary fortitude, the young pilot undertook grueling physical therapy. He not only flew again but also took command of his squadron and rebuilt it. Then he became Navy liaison to the Senate, where, by working with hawkish Republicans and Democrats, he helped reverse the decline of the military and lay the foundation for the Reagan military buildup that bankrupted the USSR. In McCain's biography, we see leadership, managerial skills, an ability to work with senators on both sides of the aisle, and a vigilance about national security that we do not see in his opponent. McCain will not need the cheap tricks of a presidential campaign to win on Election Day. His biography will be sufficient. ---heck of a man on his service, and note, he helped reverse the decline of the military, among other things. Nite, BB PS. and his wife?---copy---The McCain campaign released Cindy McCain's tax returns late Friday afternoon, and the numbers might make Joe the Plumber blush. The beer-company executive reported income last year of nearly $4.2 million, and more than $6 million in 2006. The Arizona heiress with seven homes has traveled the globe for years doing humanitarian work, mostly aiding children and quietly donating plenty of money from a fortune estimated at $100 million. She may be the wife of a senator and presidential candidate, but from the time John McCain was elected to Congress in 1982, she has preferred to keep out of the political limelight. Spending time with kids -- her four and the countless others with whom she has connected in orphanages and medical facilities -- is how she feels most at ease. ---The Miami Herald She has waded through minefields in Cambodia. Slept out in the bush in tents in Angola. Comforted children under the broiling sun in Morocco. But the 53-year-old's extensive charity work has been largely overlooked. Instead, the focus has tended to be on her privileged upbringing as the heiress of a successful Phoenix beer distribution business and her highly publicized addiction to painkillers in the early 1990s. But friends and others who have traveled with her on mission trips say her commitment to humanitarian work is one of her most defining characteristics. They also expect that to become a major part of her work as first lady, should John McCain win in November. "The thing that differentiates Cindy and why I think she will make an excellent first lady is that she has this true connection with the underserved," said Vonnie Wray, the development director at Operation Smile who has accompanied Cindy on missions to Morocco, India and Vietnam. ---The Arizona Republic (she is Proud to be an American and gives freely) "She may be the wife of a senator and presidential candidate, but from the time John McCain was elected to Congress in 1982, she has preferred to keep out of the political limelight. Spending time with kids -- her four and the countless others with whom she has connected in orphanages and medical facilities -- is how she feels most at ease." You do know that she is an addict, don't you? She was actively an addict with pain pills and stole money from the charities. She even had an affair with a married man (McCain). Michele Obama is a classy, educated lady and mother, btw. |
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